Steam Support
Seraph
Join Date: 2003-04-10 Member: 15382Members, Constellation
Join Date: 2003-04-10 Member: 15382Members, Constellation
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Steam is pretty nifty (from the screenies I've seen, I'm no "elite" h4x man), and it would be pretty cool if it could be in NS. That's all I have to say.
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Oh how right you are
This lets the devs update files for everyone easily.
Right at the moment, the beta downloads EVERYTHING, EVERY time that you go to play. That's the big issue that they're having with it. Nobody wants to download 60+Mb every time they want to play CS. Eventually they will make it so that it only downloads new or changed files, instead of everything. That will speed things up and make it more 56k friendly.
Please note that Steam users don't have a CD, and thus don't have WonIDs. In theory, you can ban people by their steam id, but it's way easy for steamers to just get a different ID. I believe that the beta INCLUDED an ID generator.
WonID's have nothing to do with CD's
It's the CD-key
You were under the right impression. As far as I know.
It means everybody not rushing and lagging out FilePlanet every time there is an update. It means that Valve and mod makers can "trickle" updates, so that we can get much more frequent, smaller, updates. Finally, it is a way for mod developers to get a foot in the door, and then if/when they are successful, flip a switch and turn on a subscription feature.
What people have seen of Steam so far, from what I've heard, is a buggy leaked beta that some unscrupulous people leaked, so now everybody has a bad impression of it.
well mine certainly doesn't download 60mb everytime I play <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
Now with Windows ME, It freezes every time I load a dialog, So I double click on "Counter-Strike" and it loads into the menu screen, so I search for a game with the sever search software, I then click join, and it starts the joining process, "validating game resources" is displayed, and then the whole program stops responding and I have to restart.
Now with Windows ME, It freezes every time I load a dialog, So I double click on "Counter-Strike" and it loads into the menu screen, so I search for a game with the sever search software, I then click join, and it starts the joining process, "validating game resources" is displayed, and then the whole program stops responding and I have to restart. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Then by golly, upgrade to XP or 2000. There's a reason barely anybody uses Me, and barely anything is supported. It's the same reason Microsoft barely sold any copies: Me is a horribly broken OS, and was a total flop. It tried to merge some of Windows 2000's features onto the horrible Win9x core, and it failed.
This lets the devs update files for everyone easily.
Right at the moment, the beta downloads EVERYTHING, EVERY time that you go to play. That's the big issue that they're having with it. Nobody wants to download 60+Mb every time they want to play CS. Eventually they will make it so that it only downloads new or changed files, instead of everything. That will speed things up and make it more 56k friendly.
Please note that Steam users don't have a CD, and thus don't have WonIDs. In theory, you can ban people by their steam id, but it's way easy for steamers to just get a different ID. I believe that the beta INCLUDED an ID generator. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->Steam _NEVER_ made you download the entire thing. I've been using Steam since beta 1 (when it was CS 1.5 beta that was used), and even back then it only got what it needed.
For CS, it downloads a "footprint" (the minimum needed to play), and then downloads other things like textures, maps, sounds, etc, when you try to play a map. If you're playing de_dust for the first time, it will download everything it needs for de_dust, but ONLY what it needs.
Similar idea for single player; it downloads a footprint, and then once you start playing, it downloads the next level (or more?) while you play the current one. By the time you get to the next level, you've already got it downloaded. It only is a problem on very short levels, as once or twice while playing HL single over Steam, I had to wait a minute for it to finish downloading the next level. But, that was rare.
As for 56Kers, VALVe has said themselves that when it goes public, current game users will be able to play it for free; I assume the only thing you'd get via STEAM was patches or security fixes.
My understanding of WON, and I could be wrong, is that when you play online for the first time your CD key is assigned a WON ID. From then on that CD-Key is paired with that WON ID. That means if you lose it, etc, you get a fresh CD key and the first time you play online you get a WON ID assigend to it.
Frankly I'm really looking forward to the fully functional Steam engine...
Stop in a ECafe for a few hours, ya got your game. Go over to a friends, you got your game. Go home from school, you got your game. No install CD needed.
First off, Steam is free. It costs money to buy thing THROUGH Steam, but Steam itself is free. It's as free as this website, but you can still buy things THROUGH this website. For example, if you don't have HL, you could purchase it through Steam and download it much quicker than it would take you to go get it at a store. (given you have broadband) Plus it would be cheaper since you don't have to pay for the box, cd, manual, and the retail store. If you already have HL, it doesn't cost you a cent to play CS, DOD, or possibly NS.
If you have HL files on your computer already, it can leech from those to speed up the install process. (instead of downloading everything again)
It's in beta, so there are bugs.... just like any other beta. If you consider the program without bugs, then it's a very convenient piece of software. You have a friends list which tells you when, where and what your friends are playing. Then you can right-click and join the server automatically to join them. Or if you want to play something else with that person, you can message them from outside the game. They get the message inside the game and can respond easily.
On top of it all, it makes updates easy and quick for both the developers and the gamers.
It even has side-games like chess and checkers.
In conclusion, Steam is a wonderful piece of software and I would be overjoyed if and when NS supported it. It makes keeping in touch with your gaming friends is so much easier.
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your cd key is not your wonid.
your wonid is however generated from your unique cd key.
that is not what you originally said.
It has to do with the CD-key
hehe
I diden't mean the CD-key and WonID was acctually the same
ROFL ROFL ROFL!!!!!
no but really....WindowsME was origionally a joke that got out of hand.
I tried the first couple steam betas back when I was big into CS. Didnt like it much, I did see potential but it seems way to bloated. I dont really need an "all encompassing half life-anti cheat-internet browsing-Instant messaging-online purchasing-background downloading-bandwidth hogging-just so I can play a quick game of NS experience"...really...I just wanna play a quick game of NS.