Ns 1.0.4 Server Crash

AdviserAdviser Join Date: 2003-03-11 Member: 14371Members
<div class="IPBDescription">Debian 3.0</div> Hi,
I'm french => my english is not very good <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->

I have a dedicated server running with Debian 3.0
Yesterday, I have install
ns_v1_linux_dedicated_server.tar.gz
in my "hlds_l" directory and unzip "ns-v104.zip" in
the ns directory.
After, I have launch the gameserver ns with Webmin
with a commandline like that:
./hlds_run -game ns +map ns_bast +maxplayers 12
+mapcyclefile mapcycle.txt +port 27016

after sometime, the computer have crash!

My administrator reboot the computer and I launch
again a server ns with this commandline :
./hlds_boost -game ns +port 27016 +exec server.cfg
+maxplayers 12 +mapcyclefile mapcycle.txt +map
ns_eclipse

It's the same, the computer go down <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->

With a cs server, I have no problem.

Someone could you help me please?

Thanks <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • Eternal_BlissEternal_Bliss Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7633Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    sometimes the NS crashses, the first 2-3 weeks of v1.04 my server was not so stable... but for some reason it's very stable now..
    running Debian3.0r1
  • playerhaterplayerhater Join Date: 2002-11-13 Member: 8405Members
  • AdviserAdviser Join Date: 2003-03-11 Member: 14371Members
    Debian 3.0
    Motherboard : Asus P4S333
    Intel Celeron 1.7GHz
    256Mo DDR PC 2700
    40Go Ide
  • verboseverbose Join Date: 2002-11-25 Member: 9968Members, Constellation
    Is it the NS server (HLDS) that's crashing, or the entire computer?

    hlds_boost?

    You don't need to exec the server.cfg, nor do you need the mapcyclefile part, since you're using the default file locations.
  • Eternal_BlissEternal_Bliss Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7633Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    i doubt a computer can crash because of a simple process like HLDS..
    i hink he ment program/process
  • cracker_jackmaccracker_jackmac Join Date: 2002-11-04 Member: 6891Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin--Eternal Bliss+Mar 11 2003, 01:29 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Eternal Bliss @ Mar 11 2003, 01:29 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> i doubt a computer can crash because of a simple process like HLDS..
    i hink he ment program/process <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    this could be true, but HLDS can cause the entire system to crash as well...It can stress its misconfigured limits leading to a nasty kernel panic
  • AdviserAdviser Join Date: 2003-03-11 Member: 14371Members
    crash of the computer
  • cracker_jackmaccracker_jackmac Join Date: 2002-11-04 Member: 6891Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    do you have a kernel panic msg to post us?

    the only thing i can think of is some bad (or old) libs

    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->ldd dlls/cs_i386.so
            /lib/libNoVersion.so.1 => /lib/libNoVersion.so.1 (0x40186000)
            libm.so.6 => /lib/i686/libm.so.6 (0x40193000)
            libc.so.6 => /lib/i686/libc.so.6 (0x42000000)
            /lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x80000000)
    <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    were ns is

    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->ldd ns/dlls/ns_i386.so
    ldd: warning: you do not have execution permission for `ns/dlls/ns_i386.so'
            libm.so.6 => /lib/i686/libm.so.6 (0x403cd000)
            libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 => /usr/lib/libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 (0x403f0000)
            libc.so.6 => /lib/i686/libc.so.6 (0x42000000)
            libgcc_s.so.1 => /lib/libgcc_s.so.1 (0x40431000)
            /lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x80000000)
    <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
  • AdviserAdviser Join Date: 2003-03-11 Member: 14371Members
    when the computer crash, there no logs on the computer ...
  • cracker_jackmaccracker_jackmac Join Date: 2002-11-04 Member: 6891Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    any more output you can give us? this is kinda important
  • AdviserAdviser Join Date: 2003-03-11 Member: 14371Members
    The crash have been very strange.
    No logs, nothing to say what is happened.

    My admin housing says that isn't a pb with hardware.
  • Eternal_BlissEternal_Bliss Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7633Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    edited March 2003
    Debian(and linux) never just crash without any log, unless the syslogd is not working...
    there should not be ANY problem if he is using Debian3.0r1 STABLE.
    ask him to do apt-get update and apt-get upgrade
    maybe he is using some old stuff ;/

    the libs and everything related to linux kernel/core are the same in all debian stable, so if my machine(2 machines to be exact) are not crashing, there shouldn't be any reason why your machine will crash unless he is using some **** hardware or you do not know how to configure HLDS
  • thierrythierry Join Date: 2003-03-12 Member: 14423Members
    Hi,

    I'm the web hoster of this dam* machine.

    There is something strange with this mod, because it really crashes the machine.

    And the crash is so hard and sudden, that there is not any trace in any of the system logs, no time for that.

    syslogd is sure running on this server, but the crash is too violent to let the system log anything.

    OS is Debian3.0r1 STABLE, under kernel 2.4.18, that is quite stable too.

    The problem doesn't seem to be hardware related, as we benched the machine that don't harm under heavy loads.

    As adviser said, all is quite stable under CS, but with NS activated, the server can't stay up more than a few minutes.

    Some ldd output:

    ldd dlls/cs_i386.so
    libm.so.6 => /lib/libm.so.6 (0x4018b000)
    libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x401ac000)
    /lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x80000000)

    ldd dlls/ns_i386.so
    libm.so.6 => /lib/libm.so.6 (0x403c8000)
    libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 => /usr/lib/libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 (0x403e9000)
    libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x40433000)
    /lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x80000000)

    Seems to be fine 2.

    Can try to upgrade kernel to 2.4.20, but really unconfident about the positive effects of such an action, as we got 30 web servers running this kernel fine, that prooved us its stability.

    Hope this help, 'Adviser' seems to be in trouble there.

    Thank you
    Thierry
  • AdviserAdviser Join Date: 2003-03-11 Member: 14371Members
    thx Thierry <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • cracker_jackmaccracker_jackmac Join Date: 2002-11-04 Member: 6891Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    thats VERY odd that NS crashes the entire machine w/o a kernel dump.

    Does it actually crash or just lockup?

    Are you using a NIC that linux has built in support for?

    the only conclusion i can come to that libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 might be defunked.
  • CoREJayFiveCoREJayFive Join Date: 2003-02-12 Member: 13479Members, Constellation
    I am running the exact same OS as you and NS runs very smoothly. I could send you a gzip of my HLDS directory and you could try it on your machine.
  • Eternal_BlissEternal_Bliss Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7633Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    i do not like 2.4.20, 2.4.19 is better imo..
    it gave me a huge imporvement from .18 but .20 just sucks <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • AdviserAdviser Join Date: 2003-03-11 Member: 14371Members
    edited March 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--[CoRE]JayFive+Mar 13 2003, 01:36 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> ([CoRE]JayFive @ Mar 13 2003, 01:36 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I am running the exact same OS as you and NS runs very smoothly.  I could send you a gzip of my HLDS directory and you could try it on your machine. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->


    thx <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
    and after, I tell you if I have the same pb <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • AdviserAdviser Join Date: 2003-03-11 Member: 14371Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Eternal Bliss+Mar 13 2003, 02:22 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Eternal Bliss @ Mar 13 2003, 02:22 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> i do not like 2.4.20, 2.4.19 is better imo..
    it gave me a huge imporvement from .18 but .20 just sucks <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    and what's the difference between this 2 version?
  • Eternal_BlissEternal_Bliss Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7633Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    <a href='http://mirror.inter.net.il/mirrors/kernel/v2.4/ChangeLog-2.4.19' target='_blank'>http://mirror.inter.net.il/mirrors/kernel/...hangeLog-2.4.19</a>
  • SuicideDogSuicideDog Join Date: 2002-11-10 Member: 8104Members
    edited March 2003
    You wouldn't happen to be overclocking would you? I had little problem with that in the beginning. The over-clocking seem to be fine .. untill NS.. oh well.
  • AdviserAdviser Join Date: 2003-03-11 Member: 14371Members
    i can't overclok this box, because is not mine.
  • Scum_of_the_UniverseScum_of_the_Universe Join Date: 2003-02-06 Member: 13174Members
    You're not running hlds as root?
  • AdviserAdviser Join Date: 2003-03-11 Member: 14371Members
    no, I have create a new user for running my server.
  • AdviserAdviser Join Date: 2003-03-11 Member: 14371Members
    I have test NS on a new server and the new box has crash <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->

    When the box crash, freeze, load cpu is at 70%.

    I don't understand the pb <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->

    some new ideas please? <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • Scum_of_the_UniverseScum_of_the_Universe Join Date: 2003-02-06 Member: 13174Members
    ideas:
    Check your voltages using <a href='http://packages.debian.org/stable/utils/lm-sensors.html' target='_blank'>lm_sensors</a> and/or try a better (more powerful and/or better quality) power supply.

    Stress the processor and cooling with <a href='http://users.ev1.net/~redelm/' target='_blank'>cpuburn</a> (not part of debian Woody) and check your ram with <a href='http://packages.debian.org/stable/misc/memtest86.html' target='_blank'>memtest86</a>.

    update your bios.
  • AdviserAdviser Join Date: 2003-03-11 Member: 14371Members
    I'm not hosting the box, I can't do that <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • ZelZel Join Date: 2003-01-27 Member: 12861Members
    il y a plus des jouers quand il s'est brise' ?
  • AdviserAdviser Join Date: 2003-03-11 Member: 14371Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Zel+Apr 15 2003, 05:32 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Zel @ Apr 15 2003, 05:32 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> il y a plus des jouers quand il s'est brise' ? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    le serveur était plein.

    for english people :

    yel says : the server were empty when it crashes?
    me : no, it was full

    <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • Eternal_BlissEternal_Bliss Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7633Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    Umm..
    you have a clean NS right?(no MM,AM,CM,AMX)
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