Aliens

QBMan · April 2003

<div class="IPBDescription">I cant take it anymore</div> Sorry to say it but its just too unfair.

-Aliens dont have to pickup ammo.
-they can heal themself fast
-who said 3 bites? only one
-when a skull comes straight at me, ill aim at it and when its 20 meters far i wont kill it!
-they can build faster because everyone can be a gorg
-everyone gets resources in aliens team, so thats more unfair tooo!

And I think if not everything is right, but 3 are min!
You should think about it. Iam not a bad aimer or S.th. its just unfair.
We were gone in a group of 3 men one with shotgun the others with normal rifle. We didnt kill that one stupid standard **** skull.
And when you dont think the same way as a am now you might be superman but not an human.
To win as an marine is impossible!!!! I playes on the server from the S@w-clan the hole day and we didnt win one time as a marine!!!!!!! This sucks dont you think?<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'>?
I cant belive you always say things like:
-"Learn to aim!"
-"Use the knife"
-"No we arent cheaters just because we havent got Cheating Death"
-"Go away noob!"

Iam playing several mods for half-life for 3 years? Why am I a noob? At counter-strike I aint bad.
Whats the problem of making teams FAIR?<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'>? Realistic??? Just that its correct?<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'>?
You are just too prowd that you killed one time as an alien thats why!

mstr · April 2003

"Realistic?" Get some time off computers.

QBMan · April 2003

Ohh if you dont want it realistic then you can make roboter skins for the marines!

Madjai · April 2003

i hope this was sarcasm, if not....

aliens dont have to pick up ammo: well duh, they are living creatures. its like you having to pick up ammo to chew your food.

they can heal themself fast: so can marines with a commander droping health packs, right in the middle of battle.

who said 3 bites? only one: its 2 bites for a normal marine, and 3 bites with lvl 1 armor

when a skull comes straight at me, ill aim at it and when its 20 meters far i wont kill it!: thats your own skill at aiming, computer games are based off of numbers. it takes a certain number of bullets to kill a skulk with so much health. all you have to do is look at him and shoot.

-they can build faster because everyone can be a gorg: if everyone went gorge do you know how slow they would actually build? try joining the aliens and go gorge when you already have 1, your team will yell at you because they know it slows down resources.

-everyone gets resources in aliens team, so thats more unfair tooo!: marines have a commander, aliens dont. you want the game to be marines vs marines? or aliens vs aliens? the commander uses the teams resources, if the marines had their own resources they couldnt do jack **** because they cant drop buildings out of thin air.

again, i really hope this was a sarcastic post...

Lumberjack_Wannabe · April 2003

Hehe... learn how to aim!

I have to ask questions:

-Did you have upgraded weapons and armor?
-Did everyone in your group have full health?

The list can go on. It's not special that a skulk can take on 3 marines by themselves.

Alias20 · April 2003

-Aliens don't have to pick up ammo.

True, but the lerk is the only alien creature at the start of the game that can attack effectively from range. Not only does he eat up 33 res and 15 seconds or so to evolve *per life*, but his dependance on energy to fire means he can't stay engaged for a long period of time. In a hallway or open space, the skulk melee attack is lunchmeat compared to the LMG.

-they can heal themself fast

Going back to the hive or sitting around a d chamber will heal alien creatures. But the commander can throw out med packs to any marine anywhere on the map. Aliens can stay entrenched easier or do hit and fade attacks, but marines can launch a sustained assault much easier with med pack spam.

-who said 3 bites? only one

My average comes down to 2 or 3. Upgraded armor means the aliens have to munch you more to kill you. Also, the alien has to close the distance and stay there to inflict damage on a marine. The LMG and pistol allows marines to deal damage from any range. Even when fades come on the scene their acid rocket attack is good but still doesn't match up to HMGs.

-when a skull comes straight at me, ill aim at it and when its 20 meters far i wont kill it!

This has to do with your aim and the skulk. If they run straight at you, you should have no trouble taking them out. Just keep your crosshair on the target and fire in close bursts. Also, your bullets do scatter so you'll be more effective at medium range than longer distances. For those long range shots, use the pistol.

-they can build faster because everyone can be a gorg

Quite the opposite. Any marine can build any structure. Only the gorge can **** structures for the aliens. This means a stock marine can secure a position with turrets and a phase gate, and still maintain a good offensive capability. The gorge, on the other hand, is fat, slow, and rather defenseless until web comes along with the second hive. A team of gorges would be a turkey shoot for the marines.

-everyone gets resources in aliens team, so thats more unfair tooo!

The flip side to this is that the resources are spread across ten or so players. It takes a bunch of resource towers and a good amount of time before one alien has the resources to **** a 80 resource hive or a 60ish resource WoL. The marines, on the other hand, can devote their entire economy to one specific area if they needed to.

If you think the aliens have it easy, try playing their side for a bit. You'll wish the skulks had hands to carry LMGs in no time. =)

Cheers,
Alias20

Dunsby · April 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>-they can build faster because everyone can be a gorg</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>

Err... Marine can all hold USE on structures.

Dread · April 2003

Here's a newsflash for you: marines actually win most of the clan games.

Terr · April 2003

I'm torn between denouncing this as a post by a Troll versus a post by an unjustifiably annoyed newbie.

QBMan · April 2003

But they didnt today. And all for the ammo and health stuff:
-Ok the commander can dropp health or ammo but he cant do everything at the same time.
-2 bites? Why did it take one?
-In the 3 men team we all had just startet and died.
-In marines team the commander might be stupid and does not make your wishes! It does take a while to eject him! In aliens team you can make what you want!
-2 Gorges can build 2 restowers at the same time! The Commander can so fast!
-Aliens dont need a turretfactory and can build everywhere.

How about that?

Fieari · April 2003

Dude, before you complain, go and PLAY as an alien. Oh, and while you're at it, why don't you suggest to your team that everyone go gorge so that you can build faster. And build whatever you want too, like OCs in random places no one ever goes, and sensory chambers at the first hive. That'll just make your victory much faster. Oh, and when you aren't gorge, just run up at a marine going straight down a long hallway. If you make it to the marine at the other end of said long hallway, just bite him once. ONCE mind you.

After you have done the above with great success, come back and continue your rant.

xect · April 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>-Ok the commander can dropp health or ammo but he cant do everything at the same time. </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
True, but the commander can go anywhere without being vulnerable, whereas gorges only have so much life

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>-2 bites? Why did it take one?</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
Either you were half dead, or there was two skulks biting you. An UNUPGRADED marine can life trough two bites, after just one upgrade, it takes 3.

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>-In the 3 men team we all had just startet and died.</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
It's called a skulk rush, it's countered by killing the aliens. Marines learned how to do that months ago. Marines are at a huge advantage in the early game

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>-In marines team the commander might be stupid and does not make your wishes! It does take a while to eject him! In aliens team you can make what you want!</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
Nope, on the marine team, only the commander needs to be smart for the team to work decently, while a single alien can go gorge and screw up resources for the whole team

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>-2 Gorges can build 2 restowers at the same time! The Commander can so fast!</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
Yeah, but the team needs to gather enough reasources to pump two gorges to 22 res, while the commander gets it all for himself. Plus a whole team of marines can build res towers quite a lot faster than two gorges, the commander only has to start it.

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>-Aliens dont need a turretfactory and can build everywhere.</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
But the marine turrets are a lot more powerfull, not to mention sieges.

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>How about that?</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
Starting to wonder if you are a troll, a bit late for that though:/

QBMan · April 2003

Do you know what. THis forum sucks. You dont understand. How do you get so good? Huh`?

How? Iam sorry for you. Tell me what to do? You may win on clanwars but nobody does on internetgames, why? If you mean. You think your right but you arent.

Kaniran · April 2003

This sounds like simple team stacking to me, unintentional or not. The problem is, most new players go marine to learn, which I wouldn't recommend. Through marines are able to beat aliens in most clan matches, unexperianced players have a much easier time as aliens. Marines take much more strategy and teamwork, and this takes quite a while to learn.

As far as being experianced with other first-person-shooters, that doesn't mean a thing. Just being able to shoot straight won't win you a single game. Being good at Counter-Strike has nothing to do with being good at NS.

All the rest of your posting isn't really thought out at all.... My advise, try aliens if you are new to the game. Learn to be a good skulk, that WILL help you be a better marine.

RyoOhki · April 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Do you know what. THis forum sucks. You dont understand. How do you get so good? Huh`?

How? Iam sorry for you. Tell me what to do? You may win on clanwars but nobody does on internetgames, why? If you mean. You think your right but you arent. </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>

We're trying to offer you helpful information as to why you lost. NS has a steep learning curve, we won't deny that. Learning the intricacies of NS takes a lot longer than most other HL mods.
Marines will frequently on internet/public servers, although they do need a skilled commander. By the same token the aliens need a skilled gorge as well; a clueless or newb gorge can ruin the entire alien team. Follow your orders as a marine and observe the actions of others on both teams. You'll soon find out that whilst there are imbalances in the game, they're actually on the marine side more often than not.

xect · April 2003

<span style='font-size:21pt;line-height:100%'>Dont feed the troll!!</span>

RyoOhki · April 2003

But I had this nice bit of spam right here, all ready to be served up...

Elderwyrm · April 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (QBMan @ Apr 13 2003, 04:17 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Do you know what. THis forum sucks. You dont understand. How do you get so good? Huh`?

How? Iam sorry for you. Tell me what to do? You may win on clanwars but nobody does on internetgames, why? If you mean. You think your right but you arent.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
We do understand. Its hard to learn how to play NS good. If you truely still think that aliens just plain own marines and are so much better. Then I'll personally play you in a game, you can be the elite own all alien that never dies and kill 10 marines every time, and i'll be the suckyass crap meister TSA Marine, we'll see what happens.

NefariousNSP · April 2003

This sounds like you have only played 2 matches as marines.

Let me tell you, I have played this game since the day it came out, and i don't notice which team wins more. I think i'ts more of a seasonal thing, as lately marines have been winning alot more.

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Do you know what. THis forum sucks.</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>

Well, if it sucks, then don't post here. Simple as that. The last thing we need here is a whiny noob who complains that beause he is no good it's a terrible game.

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>You dont understand. How do you get so good? Huh`?</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>

Well I'll tell you how, practice, umm..... teamwork...... um, listening to your commander....... practice aiming. It's really not hard. The fact that people are beating YOU means that some people are good at it.

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Iam sorry for you.</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>

Why?

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>You may win on clanwars but nobody does on internetgames, why? If you mean. </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>

Wha??? no ablos espaniol. If you mean? If you mean what?

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>You think your right but you arent. </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>

No comment.

Windelkron · April 2003

why is this in the S&I forums?!

Maian · April 2003

Good question - someone should move this to the newbie forum.

xect · April 2003

Just stop feeding the troll and he'll go away. Trolls make this kind of post to get attention, and you give him exactly what he came for.

few · April 2003

frustrated questions = frustrated answers hehehehehe 2 wrongs = 1 big wrong hehehe

DarkOmen · April 2003

This guy is saddening. My advice: play the game a bit. Actually, play from an Alien point of view, and lets see how he fares at rushing Marines.

Zel · April 2003

he also mentioned a team of 3 marines. in games as small as 3v3 the aliens often win more because they are so much more mobile. my suggestion is that if you are jsutr trying to learn play in a game of 10v10, thisway you will have a smarter commander and more firepower beside you.

marines almost always win 12v12 games, aliens almost always win 2v2 games. clan games are palyed at an average of 6v6. take some time to learn, dont get so upset at a bad start that you would quit the game, once you know tactics and tricks to play more effectively you will enjoy it so much more.

Comprox · April 2003

a - Its 2 bites, you may only hear one
b - I can kill a skulk from 1 foot away while its jumping in circles... aim better ^^
c - This is a sad sad topic *locked*

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