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Pebbles-TPFPebbles-TPF Join Date: 2002-11-11 Member: 8237Members, Constellation
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<div class="IPBDescription">We need Beta Testers.</div> Hi All,

We're busy developing an NS only Stats program, and we need Beta testers to help us iron out the bugs in the system.

The end result will be released under a form of the GNU GPL.

If you're willing to help test the stats please go to <a href='http://forums.pebbstats.com/' target='_blank'>forums.pebbstats.com</a> read the requirements for joining the team, and then register and post if you are interested.

Sorry, but all applicants will be screened. This code is not to be released to the general public yet, but we plan on releasing it in the near future (near as in before 1.1, whenever that is)

Please keep all correspondence on the Pebbstats.com forums regarding bugs etc. We're developing this for the community, but the community doesn't need to know that something went wrong with the third or fourth beta on your server... <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->

<i>Pebbs</i>
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  • masterswordmanmasterswordman Join Date: 2002-12-21 Member: 11303Members
    STICKY!!!
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  • cracker_jackmaccracker_jackmac Join Date: 2002-11-04 Member: 6891Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    thats awsome, i'm already played with HLstats code and i'm OK with databases.


    I need another project.
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  • Pebbles-TPFPebbles-TPF Join Date: 2002-11-11 Member: 8237Members, Constellation
    edited March 2003
    Just FYI: It is similiar in concept to the way Psychostats parses logs.

    It DOES NOT report stats in game. Pebbstats does NOT want to promote stats players over team players. Stats should be for improvement, not for "score"

    <i>Pebbs</i>
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  • BioHazardBioHazard Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7495Members
    edited March 2003
    Im a canidate. I offer my server up for Pebbstats.
    I'll do anything to get a good NS stats program going.

    I also vote STICKY! Web this post please.
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  • Eternal_BlissEternal_Bliss Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7633Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    yeh, sticky!
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  • BioHazardBioHazard Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7495Members
    *BUMP*
    Please Sticky

    just so an admin can see it this morning...
    this is going to rock!
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  • SimulationSimulation Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 3603Members
    sounds interesting.
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  • Spyder_MonkeySpyder_Monkey Vampire-Ninja-Monkey Join Date: 2002-01-24 Member: 8Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    <span style='color:white'><b>***WEBBED***</span></b>
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  • Pebbles-TPFPebbles-TPF Join Date: 2002-11-11 Member: 8237Members, Constellation
    Thank You,

    I didn't expect this type of response from the community.

    Beta Testing starts on Saturday March 15th, 2003 and will run till Friday March 28, 2003. After that we hope to be releasing a public Beta.

    <i>Pebbs</i>
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  • badmoonbadmoon Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 7212Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    This sounds really cool, and I know there's lots of stuff that can be done. Kills/death definatly should not important. Just playing on a server running psychostats I notice most aliens immidiatly go for redemption. i am not much of a coder so I can't really say much, but one thing that would be cool is "class specific"/upgrade bonuses:

    -like killing a skulk with hmg gives you 0 points
    -killing something that had redemption gives you more a lot of points, and dieing with redemption makes you lose a lot of points
    -killing a marine as a skulk gives more points then as a fade.

    of course these are just my ideas, I thought I might share. Also, remeber 1.1 will change a lot.
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  • Pebbles-TPFPebbles-TPF Join Date: 2002-11-11 Member: 8237Members, Constellation
    put it in the pebbstats forums please.

    This thread is here for info purposes. Not for development purposes.

    <i>Pebbs</i>

    PS: See sig.
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  • cracker_jackmaccracker_jackmac Join Date: 2002-11-04 Member: 6891Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    edited March 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--badmoon+Mar 14 2003, 12:39 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (badmoon @ Mar 14 2003, 12:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> -killing something that had redemption gives you more a lot of points, and dieing with redemption makes you lose a lot of points
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    Redemption isn't logged, there for you can't parse it

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    -killing a marine as a skulk gives more points then as a fade.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    This is already done because skulks and fades have different weapon classes


    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->
    of course these are just my ideas, I thought I might share.  Also, remeber 1.1 will change a lot.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Reallly? beacuse i haven't seen any new logging code


    i just wanted to clear this all up......but this thread isn't for this type of discussion, lets discuss this on the other fourms.
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  • badmoonbadmoon Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 7212Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    edited March 2003
    "just my two cents" ...be nice.

    And i thought they logged upgrades, perhaps not <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->

    by 1.1, I thought game play is supposed to change a lot, no?

    oops, delete my post if you need to. I dont mean to cause ruckus, rukas, rhuqas...
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  • Pebbles-TPFPebbles-TPF Join Date: 2002-11-11 Member: 8237Members, Constellation
    edited March 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--badmoon+Mar 14 2003, 05:44 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (badmoon @ Mar 14 2003, 05:44 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> And i thought they logged upgrades, perhaps not <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
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    They only log marine upgades as far as we can tell at the moment... IF they could log things like regen and redemtion and carca, how would that really affect the stats?

    Just like aliens can get bonuses like that, Marines can get HA and JP... the logs do not show who has a JP and who does not...

    <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->

    <i>Pebbs</i>
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  • Pebbles-TPFPebbles-TPF Join Date: 2002-11-11 Member: 8237Members, Constellation
    Due to a 40 mbit DDoS attack originating from the server that forums.pebbstats.com is hosted on, the site is going to be down until they re-install the entire machine.

    Until that time NS Stats will go ahead with the people that have currently signed up. Those who wish to sign up later may do so and still be included in the Beta testing.

    <i>Pebbs</i>
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  • masterswordmanmasterswordman Join Date: 2002-12-21 Member: 11303Members
    you know I was wondering why I couldn't complete my registration
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  • Pebbles-TPFPebbles-TPF Join Date: 2002-11-11 Member: 8237Members, Constellation
    edited March 2003
    //edit: removed basically the whole post.

    If you are interested in signing up for the Beta please visit the Pebbstats.com forums (see sig)

    <i>Pebbs</i>
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  • RUAewokRUAewok Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4159Members
    at the moment the only way it logs upgrades is by saying the alien player changed role to gestate and then change role back to the class he was. What I might suggest for 1.1 is that the logging show that the player "alien_upgrade" ("redemption") kinda like how it logs research for marines, this could easily be added to stats.
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  • Pebbles-TPFPebbles-TPF Join Date: 2002-11-11 Member: 8237Members, Constellation
    edited March 2003
    On the pebbstats forums one of our beta testers got excited.

    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->After a dry run with just the logs dir var changed. I ran it set to parse 30 days worth of logs.

    It paresed 138426265 KB parsed in 30 seconds!!!
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    138426265 KB ~ 138 MB

    <i>Pebbs</i>
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  • RoobubbaRoobubba Who you gonna call? Join Date: 2003-01-06 Member: 11930Members, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow
    erm... how do you work that one out?

    138,xxx,xxxKB ~ 138,xxxMB ~138GB!

    Methinks a K got in there by mistake... <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • Pebbles-TPFPebbles-TPF Join Date: 2002-11-11 Member: 8237Members, Constellation
    yes, the K did get in there by mistake.

    it shouldn't be more than 138 MB... 138GB is more than most HDDs.

    Note to self: Fix the server side output.
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  • playerhaterplayerhater Join Date: 2002-11-13 Member: 8405Members
    Pebbles, your forum seems to be having some trouble.

    Anyways, I added some code to the perl script that fixes the errors I reported. Ill post them when your forum is back up. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • saubloedsaubloed Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 3996Members
    edited March 2003
    Teamplay is the key not K:D ratio!
    I hate such stats. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
    I hope you will add a option to disable K:D ratio-ranking (or ranking at all).
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  • Pebbles-TPFPebbles-TPF Join Date: 2002-11-11 Member: 8237Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--saubloed+Mar 22 2003, 12:42 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (saubloed @ Mar 22 2003, 12:42 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Teamplay is the key not K:D ratio!
    I hate such stats. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
    I hope you will add a option to disable K:D ratio-ranking (or ranking at all). <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Teamplay is Key,

    On my beta tester server, comms and gorges rank at the top, and usually fades and HA come in second.

    Yes, there is an option to disable K:D.

    No, there isn't a way to disable ranking. Ranking is more than K:D, K:D is just an option.

    and on that note: /me flames saubloed for ignorant ranting in this thread.

    <i>Pebbs</i>
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  • TheiggstaTheiggsta Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 6958Members, Constellation
    very cool, I was talking about doing a stats system like this for a while, let me know if you need a perl/PHP guy to help out.

    -iggy
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  • saubloedsaubloed Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 3996Members
    edited May 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--Pebbles-TPF-+Mar 22 2003, 09:06 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Pebbles-TPF- @ Mar 22 2003, 09:06 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> (...) and on that note: /me flames saubloed for ignorant ranting in this thread. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Finally I awnser your ignorant message:
    (removed)

    Ok lets forget it.
    Make a working teamplay ranking if you are really good otherwise its just another useless tool for Natural Selection.
    Or just make a option to disable every ranking at all.
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  • Pebbles-TPFPebbles-TPF Join Date: 2002-11-11 Member: 8237Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--saubloed+May 1 2003, 04:42 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (saubloed @ May 1 2003, 04:42 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Pebbles-TPF-+Mar 22 2003, 09:06 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Pebbles-TPF- @ Mar 22 2003, 09:06 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> (...) and on that note: /me flames saubloed for ignorant ranting in this thread. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Finally I awnser your ignorant message:
    (removed) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Sorry about the flame... was a long time ago and I was touchy about the stats. Forgive me?
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  • saubloedsaubloed Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 3996Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Pebbles-TPF-+May 11 2003, 07:07 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Pebbles-TPF- @ May 11 2003, 07:07 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Sorry about the flame... was a long time ago and I was touchy about the stats. Forgive me? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Ok no problem. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
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