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Soup_NaziSoup_Nazi Join Date: 2002-11-03 Member: 6194Members
edited March 2003 in NS General Discussion
<div class="IPBDescription">Post Abusive Servers...</div> <u>the SERVERS HAVING INTOLERANT TEMPERAMENT list</u>

Explanation: this list was created so that people who have played on abusive servers can post them and give others a warning.

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Not too long ago, I was banned from the server:

<b>(LGSO) Killing Fields NS v1.04 18 Player</b>

I was a frequent player so I wrote to one of the admins, hoping to clear up any misunderstandings....

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<b>My Message...</b>
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"hello. this is concerning my ban from the lgso server. jew (admin) told me you asked me a question, and i seriously never saw it. you may not believe me, but thats the truth. i was playing and i hardly ever check the text. jew (admin) said i was laughing at you when i was laughing becuase i was on a role.

please unban me and my friends wonid. i never did anything to deserve this.

please respond back as soon as possible."
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keep in mind that i went back to the server using a friends serial to see why i got banned (the admin predator doesn't seem to understand that you can change your serial --> as you can see yourself in his response). when i went back for the second time, explaining that i was using a friend's key, i said i was sorry and that i never saw his question (i seriously never did!!) and that i would be glad to answer if he asked me once more.
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<b>Lt. PredatorJ (LGSO)'s Response...</b>
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1. What friend? You connected with 2 different wonid's FROM THE SAME COMPUTER? Yes , thats right , I have logs man , same IP both times. So your subnet mask is banned also , so go ahead use those extra won id's man , wont work.

2. I gave ample opportunity for you to reply , over a period of 5 minutes i spammed questions to u , with half the ppl on the server talkin about it , and you typing stuff in all the time to , but ignoring what i had to say!

In Short , HELL NO!
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i thought that predator was a reasonable/decent guy. i guess not :\

im still puzzled on why i got banned, after i apologized and explained that i wasnt paying attention to the text on-screen. i even told him i would answer his question if he would ask me again (when im paying attention)!
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although i'm surprised that i got treated the way i did by the admins, it wasn't the first time iv'e experienced abuse/prejudice on this server. i was accused of using derogatory words (against African-Americans and Chinese people) because i was winning and they were mad. some sore loser started spreading these rumors and got me in trouble with the main admin (jew). ((if the admins have any doubts, they can check the logs. in fact, i urge the admins to check the logs, as they can see that everything i said is true.))

Just to clear anything up, I'm NOT a nazi. The Soup Nazi is merely a fictional character from a show called Seinfeld.

Comments

  • SirusSirus Join Date: 2002-11-13 Member: 8466Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    edited March 2003
    I'm sorry for the occurence, but please keep all personal comments to yourself even if you felt you were treated unfairly. Send a PM or discuss it with the person in correspondence, but as etiquette, dont air out your dirty laundry here.

    Edit. <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->i was accused of using derogatory words (against African-Americans and Chinese people) because i was winning and they were mad. some sore loser started spreading these rumors and got me in trouble with the main admin (jew). <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    First, It's pretty hard to pin accusations on someone about derogatory words without you actually saying something, perhaps, you don't feel certain words are, and you proceed to use them even though other people take it as an afront.

    Second, Why does it matter if the Server Ops is Jewish ? It sounds so far that you do seem to have some ill-feelings towards a certain religion/race if you feel it is that important to note it so.
  • Rabid_LlamaRabid_Llama Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4340Members
    This seems less like a list and more like you posting a personal problem between you and a server admin. This belongs in PMs or email, not on the forum.
  • JojoshuaJojoshua NS Guide Professor Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5233Members
    The Evil Clan server kicks you if you are ruling them.
    HOBO clan server or whatever turns on cheats everynow and then to make their hives build fast or structures to siege on bigdig. Heh, I tell the players on the server they cheat and to look in the console and I get kicked. Nothing like seeing ...

    sv_cheats 0
    sv_cheats 1
    sv_cheats 0
    sv_cheats 1
    sv_cheats 0
    sv_cheats 1

    Idiots.....
  • SirusSirus Join Date: 2002-11-13 Member: 8466Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    Guys, If they have admin that means the server ops gave them it, and the server ops owns the server. You are completely out of place in critisizing them, because by connecting to THEIR server you are playing by their rules. Find a place with a considerate admin, and if your kind and grateful you will receive such in turn also.

    And as a rule of human nature, most of the time, such things are provoked. So I'm sure they didn't want to hear about your "elite" pwnzing skillz, if you did indeed flaunt your abilities, as many people do, they have every right to Kick/llama/ban you for any reason at any time.

    Like I said, don't air out your dirty laundry here. You are completely out of place in doing so.
  • Soup_NaziSoup_Nazi Join Date: 2002-11-03 Member: 6194Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Sirus+Mar 11 2003, 03:46 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Sirus @ Mar 11 2003, 03:46 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I'm sorry for the occurence, but please keep all personal comments to yourself even if you felt you were treated unfairly. Send a PM or discuss it with the person in correspondence, but as etiquette, dont air out your dirty laundry here.

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    This seems less like a list and more like you posting a personal problem between you and a server admin. This belongs in PMs or email, not on the forum. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    PMs and E-MAILs were sent with no avail. This thread was started to INFORM people.
  • SirusSirus Join Date: 2002-11-13 Member: 8466Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    Then deal with it. It's their server, and if people join and experience similar then they will no longer play there. However, those who do not experience any conflicts can continue to do so on the server that they wish to, irrelevant of how you feel about the admins there.

    Like I said, Don't air your dirty laundry here, please.
  • SycophantSycophant Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 7092Members
    edited March 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Heh, I tell the players on the server they cheat and to look in the console and I get kicked. Nothing like seeing ...
    sv_cheats 0
    sv_cheats 1
    sv_cheats 0
    sv_cheats 1
    sv_cheats 0
    sv_cheats 1
    Idiots.....<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    What, you mean like this? Got it from the BioG server a few hours ago.

    Granted, the game was basically over with us (aliens) about to take down their desperation comm chair, but it was still a little bit annoying. Nobody seemed to mind much, aside from the annoyance of everyone dying from an admin's quick fingers.

    All the "[BioG]BlackMagic killed <i>alienplayer</i> with machinegun" messages were simultaneous, even though we were mostly spread out to find that last hiding marine. You can even see the "sv_cheats changed to 1" / "sv_cheats changed to 0" messages. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->


    [edit1] : <i>Just to clarify - I'm not complaining about the BioG server, as it was very fair throughout the game. Heh, I just wanted a reason to post the pic.</i> <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • BigDBigD [OldF] Join Date: 2002-10-25 Member: 1596Members
    Probably locked in a second here...
  • Soup_NaziSoup_Nazi Join Date: 2002-11-03 Member: 6194Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Sirus+Mar 11 2003, 03:57 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Sirus @ Mar 11 2003, 03:57 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Then deal with it. It's their server, and if people join and experience similar then they will no longer play there. However, those who do not experience any conflicts can continue to do so on the server that they wish to, irrelevant of how you feel about the admins there.

    Like I said, Don't air your dirty laundry here, please. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    If it's a fight you're looking for, i'm not interested.
    As i mentioned earlier, this thread is for those who want to speak out against abusive servers/admins.
  • SirusSirus Join Date: 2002-11-13 Member: 8466Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    No fight, im just warning you cuz this is gonna get locked.
  • Soup_NaziSoup_Nazi Join Date: 2002-11-03 Member: 6194Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Sirus+Mar 11 2003, 04:06 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Sirus @ Mar 11 2003, 04:06 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> No fight, im just warning you cuz this is gonna get locked. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I do believe people have the freedom of speech, especially when they believe that they have been violated.
  • SirusSirus Join Date: 2002-11-13 Member: 8466Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    Freedom to speak out against the government without fear of retaliation and censorship.

    NOT- the freedom to say whatever damn well please you.

    If that was true we wouldn't have slander and etc.
  • FeydToBlackFeydToBlack Join Date: 2003-02-04 Member: 13079Members
    edited March 2003
    Like it has been said MANY times before: You have no freedom of speech here. This is a private forum, they can limit your freedom of expression as much as they want, much as any buisness has the right to refuse service to anyone seeking it. Your freedom of speech only goes as far as the mods want it to.


    "No freedom of speech for you!"
    -Freedom of Speech Nazi

    [edit]Darn, syrus beat me to the punch. BigDXLT as well, and all within a minute.[/edit]
  • BigDBigD [OldF] Join Date: 2002-10-25 Member: 1596Members
    edited March 2003
    Read my signature. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--> Since I see Comprox is reading this since I last posted, I am quite surprised this hasn't been closed. <b>Although it is an annoying trend with some admins lately.</b> They gotta remember, if they want private servers they should password'em so we don't waste our time connecting to them. (Or good lengthy load screen messages.)
  • playerhaterplayerhater Join Date: 2002-11-13 Member: 8405Members
    Its because of the server ops you have a server to play on. Try running your own server and see how long it takes for your patience to run thin! Go play on another server if you don like it, simple as that. Theres plenty out there <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • BlueTorpeedoBlueTorpeedo Join Date: 2003-03-10 Member: 14359Members
    Definatly the EVIL servers....

    I played on an Evil server about a month ago [late January] as Alien and noticed that our team had virtually infinate Resources within the first 30 seconds of that particular round. An admin was on my team (i dont remember his name) and so I asked him what was going on. At first he denied that anything was wrong, but my team could hear our conversation and someone said that he had cheated res for our team. Then he responded by saying that he was "making the game more fun for us", as if that was a valid excuse. So I basically told him that I thought that was unfair and ruined the game. He answered with a long string of swears. So I told the marines that the admin was cheating resources and I got booted. Im not really angry, and I dont mean to rant, but that was pretty inappropriate of the admin. I know that that one Evil member in question my not represent the whole clan, but thats quite a bad impression he gave me of his group. Something similar happened to one of my friends on a sepporate occassion on an EVIL server regarding EVIL admin(s) in need of additude adjustments.

    On a side note, I also have a pet~peeve with servers that reserve 4+ slots for VIP players, but they are NEVER used! (Fists of Ra for example). So I have to try to join about 5-10 servers that seem empty to find one I can actually play on. It wouldnt bother me so much if those slots appeared to be used at least somewhat frequently. Its like the Admins/Clanners forgot that they are paying $20 +/- a month for a server. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • Soup_NaziSoup_Nazi Join Date: 2002-11-03 Member: 6194Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Sirus+Mar 11 2003, 04:12 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Sirus @ Mar 11 2003, 04:12 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Freedom to speak out against the government without fear of retaliation and censorship.

    NOT- the freedom to say whatever damn well please you.

    If that was true we wouldn't have slander and etc. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I'm not breaking any posting rules (at least i don't think i am).
    As long as i don't break any rules, i have the freedom to post.

    Any half-wit can go around calling people dirty words. I believe in freedom of speech as long as it's informative and non-offensive.
  • ComproxComprox *chortle* Canada Join Date: 2002-01-23 Member: 7Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS1 Playtester, NS2 Developer, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Silver, Subnautica Developer, Subnautica Playtester, Pistachionauts
    OK, this is already degrading to a murky pit of slightly rotted pickles in moldy juice, and it isn't going to get any better. No matter how many times people post these in good intentions, it never works out...
    <b><span style='color:white'>**WELDED**</span></b>
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