Something I Have Notcied Which Seems Strange.
ViolenceJack
Join Date: 2002-11-03 Member: 5624Members
Join Date: 2002-11-03 Member: 5624Members
How come the aliens have a more, (dunno how to say this) well better sort of layout. Ill kind of explain.
so marines to win, build the top stuff and use it such as all get ha/hmg. On the other hand aliens(well in a hive2 v ha/hmg marines its kind of required) need to use fades as assault and lerks to support em otherwise they get ripped to bits by hmgs. I would have thought that tactics like this would be more of a marine thing. there is the welder but thats more of a healing thing not a supporting protecting thing, like gorge to aliens or dcs.
so marines to win, build the top stuff and use it such as all get ha/hmg. On the other hand aliens(well in a hive2 v ha/hmg marines its kind of required) need to use fades as assault and lerks to support em otherwise they get ripped to bits by hmgs. I would have thought that tactics like this would be more of a marine thing. there is the welder but thats more of a healing thing not a supporting protecting thing, like gorge to aliens or dcs.
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Sadly this is rare.
As marine going for a gorge hunt is way more exciting than for aliens trying to kill a turret factory.
Whatever...
I don't think this is a design issue, as you propose. I think it is an experience issue. The marines are popular to new NS players because they see the similarity with other games (the dreaded CS for example.) This was certainly my own experience. But as I became more familiar with the game, I came to enjoy playing aliens even more.
Aliens are exotic, and require more skill. Hence, the more experienced players, playing alien, exhibit more teamwork than the marines, who are supposed to be all about teams.
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I would see it better if la/lmg was still useful later game even when u can get ha/hmg. Maybe if the onos came into play more and he didnt run really really fast. making it so la/lmg could out run him but ha couldnt, so if u had a squad of ha then they would die easy la/lmg could keep distance and kill.
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Sorry to admin, I can't help.
seriously, lately when i have played aliens there has been a few n00bs, hell even ones that insisted on going gorge and didnt know about clicking use to speed building up. well either they were n00bs or were just crap.
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so marines to win, build the top stuff and use it such as all get ha/hmg. On the other hand aliens(well in a hive2 v ha/hmg marines its kind of required) need to use fades as assault and lerks to support em otherwise they get ripped to bits by hmgs. I would have thought that tactics like this would be more of a marine thing. there is the welder but thats more of a healing thing not a supporting protecting thing, like gorge to aliens or dcs. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
If I understand correctly you're basically saying: Why is it that the different alien types are so dependant on one another ? i.e. Why would a lerk player spray umbra onto a fade (supporting), instead of going for kills itself, for example. In other words, the aliens seem "human" in their teamwork by lack of selfish raw instincts to kill etc.
I think there are a number of reasons for this:
i) It seems a design goal of NS to encourage teamwork. Therefore having certain aliens depend on/complement other aliens seems logical from a gameplay (not necessarily realism) point of view.
ii) "Humans" are still playing the aliens. This means that you will always see human characteristics in the alien style of play even though they are representing strange creatures.
When I think of aliens I tend think of them as almost a strange type of "ant colony" in a way. You have soldiers (skulks/fades/onos), workers (gorge) and something somewhat inbetween (lerk). From this point of view it is not that difficult to imagine them working together in reasonably sophisticated ways and also it tends to explain the whole idea of a hive-mind i.e. they are independant creatures and yet they are one body essentially because they are all linked together.
That's just silly and evil of ya...
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Humans are one of the most selfish... Well acctually the only selfish animal we've found
Being prejudice about aliens saying that they ARE selfish and they ARE murderers are just dumb...
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Who says they cant be more civilized than we are ?
The reason their kicking people's butts is cause they're in the way
A strategy widely used by humans
That's just silly and evil of ya...
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Humans are one of the most selfish... Well acctually the only selfish animal we've found
Being prejudice about aliens saying that they ARE selfish and they ARE murderers are just dumb...
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Who says they cant be more civilized than we are ?
The reason their kicking people's butts is cause they're in the way
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Actually humans are capable of amazing acts of selflessness. If you haven't heard some kind of story of someone risking their life for a stranger then I'd wager you've lived a pretty sheltered existance.
In any case though, the point was not that aliens (real or imagined) are not capable of civilization; or are just mindless killers. The point is that when you have humans playing aliens (role playing) then you are going to see a certain humanistic trend in their play.
The whole point of my "ant colony" analogy was to indicate that aliens working together in sophisticated ways is not that far-fetched from reality as we know it.
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True True...
I'm sure gorge-cuteness contests are not entirely out of the question either... they may even have a dedicated fashion-line for 'em <!--emo&::gorge::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/pudgy.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='pudgy.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
That would liven it up a lil...
Wouldent be as good camoflauge though but maybe for when its home shopping babblerfeed