Poor Marines

Diablo_fxDiablo_fx Join Date: 2003-02-21 Member: 13793Members
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<div class="IPBDescription">Clan matches</div> The marines will be ALOT more poor in clan marches, bcuz the FF 1. With these turrets who cant hit a ****, how should they hit s good clan guy. This isnt like that for the aliens bcuz they dont need to have a TF near the OC's <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo--> The "bad" turrets should be fixed so they just hit a little better in clan matches and normal games.

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  • AcKzAcKz Join Date: 2002-11-27 Member: 10079Banned
    edited March 2003
    If you've ever been in a clan match, you'd know that aliens have it worse on the FF than marines. Hell, bullets don't hurt at all. And turrets............?
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  • saint0zsaint0z Join Date: 2002-10-16 Member: 1505Members, Constellation
    yeah skulks can accidently tear up other skulks, which is never good on a rush
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  • TAUhang10TAUhang10 Join Date: 2003-01-10 Member: 12108Members
    ackz <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
    everyone knows turrets > everything
    get with the program!!!
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  • ShaikonShaikon Join Date: 2003-02-19 Member: 13744Members
    <!--emo&::sentry::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/turret.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='turret.gif'><!--endemo--> Turrets in a clan match... LOL!!!!

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!

    omg, that was teh funny <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • criogenicscriogenics Join Date: 2003-01-13 Member: 12248Members, Constellation
    I've yet to see turrets in a match so I'm not too worried about their FF <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • ZelZel Join Date: 2003-01-27 Member: 12861Members
    well FF changes everything, and this must be where the "marines always win clan matches" thing comes from. sheesh, FF changes the game so radically i wish it would stay on all of the time so palyers can learn to use it.

    was in a clan practice the other day and some OT's took out our own hive, trying to shoot the jetbo.
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  • eve_playeroneeve_playerone Join Date: 2003-02-24 Member: 13929Members
    only problem i can see with ff, is ochabers hitting the hive. and ochambers hitting themselves. there is basicly no other problems.
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  • p4Prosperop4Prospero Join Date: 2002-12-04 Member: 10454Members, Constellation
    Yeah, it would be nice to see the Off. chambers have enough intelligence to not shoot the hive. Or maybe the hive just needs a thick mucus layer to protect itself from acid. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->

    Prosp
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  • Speed_2_DaveSpeed_2_Dave Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8788Members
    yeah, hmg-rushing marines sure are worried about those turrets they left in the base :/
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  • LucidLucid Join Date: 2002-12-11 Member: 10534Members, Constellation
    look at me. I just spent 150 res locking down subspace like a fortress!! they will never get in there....... WTH? What do you mean there is 3 hives on this map? What do you mean they got the second hive up while I locked down subspace? What?!! you want upgrades now? Wouldn't you rather hold this hive? omg they are coming to base with umbra/acidrocket. We don't have the money for GL's you nubs!! I need to secure the base with a TF. OMG why didnt i do that right after the IP!
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  • ElricElric Join Date: 2002-11-13 Member: 8448Members
    Sounds like some people haven't heard of the infamous turret rush. Build about 6 turrets in base, equip them with some cannons and heavy lasers, upgrade the walk ability, have the marines hop in, and DESTROY! Just gotta be careful about the lasers, there's not enough room for heat sinks...and let's not get started about acid rockets in the munition storage in the shoulders.
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  • coilcoil Amateur pirate. Professional monkey. All pance. Join Date: 2002-04-12 Member: 424Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    edited March 2003
    To all the oh-so-helpful replies this thread has been getting:

    If you don't have anything intelligent to post, don't.

    If you think you *are* being intelligent, think harder.
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  • civman2civman2 Join Date: 2002-11-03 Member: 6116Members, Constellation
    come on coil, some of these are pretty good.

    I'd be more worried about mines... boom *everyone dies*
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  • TheHornetTheHornet Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1776Members, Constellation
    I would like to see turrets having better aim... especcially since they cost so much.
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  • TalesinTalesin Our own little well of hate Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7710NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators
    Mmmm.. mines in ff-on mode. One skulk, five Marines, acceptable sacrifice. >:)
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  • ZennZenn Join Date: 2003-02-01 Member: 12970Members
    Yes, FF makes mines a pain! Oh, you wanna place mines around that phase gate? SUICIDE RUSH...the mines end up killing the phase. I hate FF mode, I wish Tourny mode had some REAL changes in it, instead of just sticking in FF and calling it a day. At least 80% of my comm strats don't work in tourny mode, leaving me with basicly...JP rush, and then aliens complain about that, what else IS there?

    Zenn hates FF mode.
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  • TeoHTeoH Join Date: 2002-12-30 Member: 11640Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--eve.playerone+Mar 5 2003, 03:48 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (eve.playerone @ Mar 5 2003, 03:48 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> only problem i can see with ff, is ochabers hitting the hive. and ochambers hitting themselves. there is basicly no other problems. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Skulks have a wide bite area, when more than 1 skulk attacks a building in tournement mode, it is common for skulks to chomp each other. If 2 skulks attempt to jump ontop of a phase and bite it, they will bite eachother, each knocking the other off the phase and allowing marines to run through. If 2 skulks are biting a building from opposite sides (So as to avoid biting eachother) they will still chomp eachother at the moment the building is destroyed.

    FF is at 33%, the damage output of a skulk bite is so high that this figure is still very significant for skulks, but ensures a few bullets into the back of a marines head do little damage. Marines also have a much easier time avoiding killing eachother, because they do not have to push into melee range. Only shotguns and HMGs are a significant FF risk to marines.

    The 33% figure also applies to mines unless they are triggered by a fade. Because of this, the damage dealt by mines to buildings when a skulk triggers them is minimal. There is no problem with mining phase gates.

    We get alot more alien teamkills than marine teamkills.
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  • Ph0enixPh0enix Join Date: 2002-10-08 Member: 1462Members, Constellation
    Most team kills i've seen come from spam happy fades, wacking an entire volley of rockets into a teammate by accident, overenthaustic 'cover' fire from a marine with a HMG or skulks chomping on something together.

    Particulary that last one. Fades can get away with a couple of 25 - 26 damage bites/swings. Skulks can't however.
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  • reborebo Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2734Members
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    only problem i can see with ff, is ochabers hitting the hive. and ochambers hitting themselves. there is basicly no other problems
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    Ever owned half your own team on a skulk rush cos the bite hitbox is wider than the viewport let alone the bite viewmodel?
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  • StoneburgStoneburg Join Date: 2002-11-11 Member: 8174Members
    Well, this thread suchs but <b>this</b> made me laugh:

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    I think I'm gonna start calling them that! It needs an 'n' though, "ochnabers" is even better.
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  • QuestionQuestion Join Date: 2002-11-18 Member: 9180Members
    OCs > Turrets
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  • SpceM0nkeySpceM0nkey Join Date: 2003-01-19 Member: 12480Members
    I would like to see the marines i command have better aim
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  • FrikkFrikk Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 3164Members, Constellation
    The best is when you have a skulk on top of another skulk running around. The bottom one starts biting and the one on top gets really **** off. Man, I got yell at for that one lol.
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  • taboofirestaboofires Join Date: 2002-11-24 Member: 9853Members
    Actually, it would be really nice if you had a way (audible maybe) to tell if you were hurting your teammate. Esp as a skulk, it's hard to tell exactly what you're hitting. Multiple skulks biting a res tower usually just end up hitting each other instead.

    Forget turrets, where the real FF damage comes from is when 1) a jetpacker plops down in front of someone firing an hmg or 2) someone spams grenades, and forgets about their poor teammates out there fighting.

    The reduced FF damage from an hmg still really hurts.
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  • MooManMooMan Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5154Members
    lol, once on tanith, we were at the doors to cargo. All 4 of us lined up, 2 behind 2, , I had a shotty in the front, and I was crouched. Suddenly the door opens as a skulk comes through, guess what happens next

    I get SHREDDED by 2 HMGs hitting me while I shotgun the skulk <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->

    FF hurts <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->

    But hell, we have learnt from that <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
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