Animatrix Episode 2: Program

Marik_SteeleMarik_Steele To rule in hell... Join Date: 2002-11-20 Member: 9466Members
In my grand tradition of being an overly-enthusiastic Matrix and Animatrix fan of the Off-Topic forums, I bring you <a href='http://www.intothematrix.com/rl_cmp/animatrix_site_program.html' target='_blank'>Program, the second downloadable Animatrix episode</a>.

If you don't feel like streaming the movie, here's the link to the highest resolution available, a ~150 meg QuickTime format movie: <a href='http://progressive1.stream.aol.com/wb/gl/wbonline/progressive/thematrix/us/med/program0xA3B1____640_dl.zip' target='_blank'>Yes, here. Click. You know, that thing you do with a mouse? Good.</a>

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  • ComproxComprox *chortle* Canada Join Date: 2002-01-23 Member: 7Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS1 Playtester, NS2 Developer, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Silver, Subnautica Developer, Subnautica Playtester, Pistachionauts
  • TenSixTenSix Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7932Members
  • BOZOBOZO Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 3973Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Supporter, Reinforced - Shadow
    edited March 2003
    I love the Matrix, but I hate Anima. So no thanks.

    BTY. Have any of you seen the commercial for the new Steven King movie "DreamCatcher", I wasn't going to go see it untill I saw the commerical that said that there was going to be a short Matrix film that ties the 1 and second movies together at the end of DreamCatcher. So now I have to go see it.
  • KarriNKarriN Join Date: 2002-11-03 Member: 6617Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--BOZO+Mar 5 2003, 12:53 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BOZO @ Mar 5 2003, 12:53 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I love the Matrix, but I hate Anima. So no thanks. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    This is a funny thing to say since you can't describe anime just as 'anime'. Sure, many of the flicks are done with a certain style, but the stories and scenarios are just as diverse as in live-action films.

    Besides, The Matrix movies have LOADS of anime influences.
  • Marik_SteeleMarik_Steele To rule in hell... Join Date: 2002-11-20 Member: 9466Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--BOZO+Mar 4 2003, 07:53 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BOZO @ Mar 4 2003, 07:53 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I love the Matrix, but I hate Anima. So no thanks.

    BTY. Have any of you seen the commercial for the new Steven King movie "DreamCatcher", I wasn't going to go see it untill I saw the commerical that said that there was going to be a short Matrix film that ties the 1 and second movies together at the end of DreamCatcher. So now I have to go see it. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I agree with KarriN that there are many different styles and story types generalized as "anime." Before seeing all 3 DVD's of The Vision of Escaflowne, I though all anime could be compared to the childish series' like DragonBallZ, YuGiOh and Pokemon that have become too mainstream in the US. These attempts at anime aren't of <i>near</i> the artistic and storytelling quality of a number of other anime series; I'd list good ones, but if I did I'd have loads of forumgoers complaining "Hey, you missed this one!" <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->


    But please realize that while the different episodes of the Animatrix may have direct influence by the Wachowski brothers themselves (original writers/directors of the Matrix, for the uninformed), each of these shorts are done by completely different people, with completely different artistic styles. The two episodes available for download so far have a surprizing amount of computer-generated content edited to look more hand-drawn and maintain seamlessness.

    The "Final Flight of the Osiris" episode you have stated will be bundled with "Dreamcatcher" is done with the same techniques and by the same people who made the totally-computer-generated "Final Fantasy" movie. Yes, it will tie into the second "official" Matrix movie more tightly than some of these other episodes, and I have to criticize this latest one for being too short to have as much plot as I would've liked. But the 1st one released, "The Second Renaissance," is our first direct glimpse at pre-Matrix events that led up to the war with the machines.
  • KillymageeKillymagee Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 3136Members
    If you don't like anime, watch Cowboy beebop or Hellsing (and since people will probably kill me for not mentioning this but Trigun as well) you will then get hooked <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • p4Samwisep4Samwise Join Date: 2002-12-15 Member: 10831Members
    Watch the first Animatrix movie (The Second Renaissance, pt I), and THEN tell me you don't like any anime. (This most recent one isn't quite as awesome.)
  • AllUrHiveRblong2usAllUrHiveRblong2us By Your Powers Combined... Join Date: 2002-12-20 Member: 11244Members
    Anyone who puts the animatrix 2 in league on par with any anime besides Blood needs to be kicked squarely in the junk.

    It suffers from exactly the same faults as Blood. Bad dubbing, lack of story, trite and useless dialaugue, and just an overall feel of crappiness. After seeing the Animatrix 2, I can safely say that it is the second worst "anime" I've ever seen. Right between Blood and Lupin III(although I've only seen it dubbed).
  • Marik_SteeleMarik_Steele To rule in hell... Join Date: 2002-11-20 Member: 9466Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--AllUrHiveRBelong2Us+Mar 4 2003, 09:39 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AllUrHiveRBelong2Us @ Mar 4 2003, 09:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Anyone who puts the animatrix 2 in league on par with any anime besides Blood needs to be kicked squarely in the junk.

    It suffers from exactly the same faults as Blood. Bad dubbing, lack of story, trite and useless dialaugue, and just an overall feel of crappiness. After seeing the Animatrix 2, I can safely say that it is the second worst "anime" I've ever seen. Right between Blood and Lupin III(although I've only seen it dubbed). <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Fair enough, I'll agree I was disappointed. After seeing the 1st Animatrix episode, I obviously had much higher hopes for this one.

    But look at the differences in the credits between the two. While the 1st Animatrix episode, "The Second Renaissance: Part 1" was written by the Wachowski brothers directly, this one was written and directed by Yoshiaki Kawajiri instead. Perhaps one reason why we don't like it is because it just doesn't "feel" the same way.

    Yoshiaki Kawajiri's previous works include, according to the site, <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Wicked City (1987), Ninja Scroll (1993), and most recently Vampire Hunter D: Bloodlust (2000). <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Having only seen one out of these three (Ninja Scroll) and disliking its use of violence over plotline, it doesn't come as much of a surprize that this episode bears some similarities.

    There's hope, though. The next episode, "Detective Story", scheduled for release next month in April, was written and directed by Shinichiro Watanabe, who directed Cowboy Bebop. Plenty more respectable than Ninja Scroll, if you asked me.
  • AllUrHiveRblong2usAllUrHiveRblong2us By Your Powers Combined... Join Date: 2002-12-20 Member: 11244Members
    Ninja scroll was good though, because it had amazing magicall killer STDs.

    And he did bloodlust? But I've heard such good things about it....

    Now I don't know what to think....
  • DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
    <!--QuoteBegin--Killymagee+Mar 4 2003, 07:15 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Killymagee @ Mar 4 2003, 07:15 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> If you don't like anime, watch Cowboy beebop or Hellsing (and since people will probably kill me for not mentioning this but Trigun as well) you will then get hooked :D <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I concur.

    I just finished watching this second one. Didn't really like it. It didn't seem like the matrix at all. I mean hell, its modern day stuff, not ancient sword ridding japan samuri stuff...
  • GreedoGreedo Bounty Hunter Join Date: 2002-01-24 Member: 37Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    I hadn't seen either of them until now. The first one is far superior. I just didn't get the point that the second one was trying to make. It just felt like a separate story, not any kind of extension of the story of the Matrix.
  • ComproxComprox *chortle* Canada Join Date: 2002-01-23 Member: 7Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS1 Playtester, NS2 Developer, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Silver, Subnautica Developer, Subnautica Playtester, Pistachionauts
    I hope the 3rd ties them together some, cause, yah, I wasnt too happy with the samuri stuff <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • coilcoil Amateur pirate. Professional monkey. All pance. Join Date: 2002-04-12 Member: 424Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    They're not necessarily supposed to be bound to the same singular plot. Second Renaissance (1 and 2, I presume) tells the story of the rise of AI and the eventual war between humanity and machines (*cough*Terminator*cough*). Program is more of a snapshot - another ship, another crew, another experience.

    I thought it was pretty good, personally. Yeah, the dialogue wasn't great - but how good was the dialogue in <i>The Matrix</i>? Um, it wasn't. (: Just as overblown as this was. And the animation was SPECTACULAR. I must have watched the scene in the bamboo 20 times.

    Yeah, the samurai element was odd. Yeah, her hair was friggin huge. *shrug* It didn't bother me that much. Take it for what it is.

    As for Flight of Osiris - do a search for it on Kazaa. It's about 9mb, and worth every bit.
  • ImmacolataImmacolata Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2140Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    <!--QuoteBegin--KarriN+Mar 5 2003, 02:00 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (KarriN @ Mar 5 2003, 02:00 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--BOZO+Mar 5 2003, 12:53 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BOZO @ Mar 5 2003, 12:53 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I love the Matrix, but I hate Anima. So no thanks. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    This is a funny thing to say since you can't describe anime just as 'anime'. Sure, many of the flicks are done with a certain style, but the stories and scenarios are just as diverse as in live-action films.

    Besides, The Matrix movies have LOADS of anime influences. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yeah had me wondering too. The Matrix is as "japanese animé" as I have ever seen. Without actually being drawn in that style. There's no need to hate animé because its drawn. I must admit myself that I can't care less for half of it, I do not understand the infatuation of all things drawn by japanese that seems to prevail. But I don't dislike it if theres a good story and the drawing style ain't entirely out of whack with what I can stomach.
  • TomodachiTomodachi Join Date: 2002-08-16 Member: 1175Members
    edited March 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--DOOManiac+Mar 5 2003, 05:13 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DOOManiac @ Mar 5 2003, 05:13 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Killymagee+Mar 4 2003, 07:15 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Killymagee @ Mar 4 2003, 07:15 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> If you don't like anime, watch Cowboy beebop or Hellsing (and since people will probably kill me for not mentioning this but Trigun as well) you will then get hooked  <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I concur.

    I just finished watching this second one. Didn't really like it. It didn't seem like the matrix at all. I mean hell, its modern day stuff, not ancient sword ridding japan samuri stuff... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    The short movies aren't suppose to have anything to do with <i>The Matrix</i> movie. The only thing they have in common is how man battles the machine..
  • DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
    <!--QuoteBegin--Jobabob+Mar 5 2003, 03:48 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Jobabob @ Mar 5 2003, 03:48 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> you left handed or something?

    O:

    It wasnt anywhere near on par with the first one, good animation, but a nonsensical and almost nonexistant plot. They could've done a lot better, there were even scenes with the characters talking besides the movement of their lips.. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I am left handed, and I take offense. Oh the troubles of growing up in a Righties world... Always the oppressed minority! Damn those right handed scissors... Damn them all...

    But yeah, the plot on this second one was silly stupid.
  • DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
    **ALSO**

    Why wasn't she wearing any fricking pants at the end? Nobody else in the Matrix universe strips down to their panties just because they have to go into The Construct (well, except maybe Cypher...)

    Silly Japanese hent^H^H^H^Hanime designers. :P
  • VenmochVenmoch Join Date: 2002-08-07 Member: 1093Members
    I am Downloading this as we speak!

    However I'm a rather large anime fan, in fact I am sitting here with my brand-new-just-arrived-today Cowboy Bebop manga!

    Listening the the Cowboy Bebop OST, but Evangelion was the one that brought me into it all!
  • Smoke_NovaSmoke_Nova Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8697Members
    Anime is coool.

    <i>Princess Mononoke</i> is one of the BEST movies I've seen yet, live-action or otherwise.

    and five or six of the Animatrix's are written by the Wachowski's...the others are approved by them.

    Remember this people
    Flayra > Wachowski's > God.
  • roXetroXet Join Date: 2002-11-14 Member: 8564Members
    I'm downloading the second Animatrix installment right now, on about 94%. I'll have to send it home to my wife over icq and watch it tonight. I think I will like this one, if the animation is really good I will like it, but I won't think it's great if the story blows. But I do really go in big time for samurai stuff, so I'll probably like it.

    The first one they released we jaw droppingly awesome. I'm a huge anime fan, and even I was surprised at how good it was. =)
  • Marik_SteeleMarik_Steele To rule in hell... Join Date: 2002-11-20 Member: 9466Members
    I felt this news wasn't major enough to warrant an entirely new thread, but it's relevant to this thread, at least. A new 4 minute, 30 second trailer regarding all Animatrix episodes in general has been released. In addition, the official Matrix website indicates that in the near future we will learn the release date for the third downloadable episode.

    Oh, yeah, that link to the 4 1/2 minute trailer: <a href='http://progressive1.stream.aol.com/wb/gl/wbonline/progressive/thematrix/us/med/ani_tr_4_720_dl.mov' target='_blank'>http://progressive1.stream.aol.com/wb/gl/w...tr_4_720_dl.mov</a>
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