Batman

MonklaMonkla Join Date: 2002-10-08 Member: 1458Members
<div class="IPBDescription">Is he A Superhero?</div> As the topic says is batman a superhero. Im dont think he is one. I mean all he is, is a guy in a costume fighting crime. Anyone can do it. Plus in order to be a SUPERhero you have to have a power. Now whats batmans power. Nothing all he has is a utility belt. Ok a belt is not a power its an item. I have argued over this for almost two years now and well i want to know what you all think.
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  • SycophantSycophant Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 7092Members
    A friend of mine is a big comic book freak, and I've been argueing Batman's claim to superherodom for well over 5 years. I'm not much into comics myself, but I <i>do</i> know that Batman is just an ordinary guy with a good build and <i>lots</i> of money.

    Besides, isn't Batman considered a 'crimefighter' and not a 'superhero'? Like I said, I'm not much into comics..... <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • BurrBurr Join Date: 2002-11-19 Member: 9358Members
    I never liked the DC comics, im more of a marvel fan myself. Batman is not a superhero, he is just rich, and knows karate and has good balance. He does however, fight crime, so I think he IS a crimefighter.
  • DunsbyDunsby Join Date: 2002-08-01 Member: 1042Awaiting Authorization
    His not a superheroe, his a scientist. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • SycophantSycophant Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 7092Members
    LOL!! <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->

    Is there any discussion that Homer <i>can't</i> rationalize? <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    ok, for those of you who have ever played White Wolfs Aberrant there is a wonderful way of explaining why he is one.

    No, he can fly, shoot lightning, ets ets ets

    HOWEVER, he is both a fuggen supper genius as well as being in peak physical condition.

    Remember, HE is the one that designed AND BUILT all of his 'great toys', he didn't just buy em, he MADE EM!

    in Aberrant this would be represented by a few points in Mega Int, as well as Mega Wits (the dude just can't be thrown off balance)

    see, thats where his 'powers' are.
  • FrothybeverageFrothybeverage Join Date: 2003-02-15 Member: 13593Members
    He could just have 5 points in both Int and Wit <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->

    And another 5 in each Dex, stam, and Str.

    God... I'm a geek.
  • GWARGWAR Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2297Members, Contributor
    Hes a control freak, He lost his parents to crime... Now hes really rich and its PAYBACK time <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • DubersDubers Pet Shop Boy Edinburgh, UK Join Date: 2002-07-25 Member: 998Members
    Batman is a vigilante not a superhero. Like the punisher! Very similar charachters actually.
  • AllUrHiveRblong2usAllUrHiveRblong2us By Your Powers Combined... Join Date: 2002-12-20 Member: 11244Members
    Batman has a very big case of super-power envy. To compensate he buys all his little toys, and tries to go out and beat up "super-villian" half of which are just guys with weird clothes(I mean, come on! The Penguin?!? What was his power? Deadly Waddleing?)
  • DubersDubers Pet Shop Boy Edinburgh, UK Join Date: 2002-07-25 Member: 998Members
  • BurrBurr Join Date: 2002-11-19 Member: 9358Members
    haha, he had those umbrella toys, maybe he had supervillian envy!!
  • FlatlineUTDFlatlineUTD Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7695Members
    Pffft. He's no superhero. No super powers, if I remember correctly.

    That's like saying a Zombie Space Pirate Ninja Warrior Robot is a superhero. Really really cool and super awesome? Definitely yes. But superhero? No.
  • BurrBurr Join Date: 2002-11-19 Member: 9358Members
    yeah, he just has major issues and had lots of money and a genius IQ, but there are alot of ppl out there like that, they just don't dress up in spandex and go and fight crime, nor do they carry any anti-shark bat repellent (haha, from the old atom west episodes)
  • DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
    I've always likes Bat-Man the best over all the others.

    He isn't from another planet.
    He can't shoot fire from his eyes.
    He can't fly.

    He's just friggin INSANE enough to do the crap he does. >:D
  • MonsieurEvilMonsieurEvil Join Date: 2002-01-22 Member: 4Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    Seconded. I mean, you have to have some SuperCojones in order to jump off buildings holding onto a piece of fishing line while you can't see a thing due to your batmask. All while wearing tights that have no sekrats. Any wanker from Krypton can be a hero when he KNOWS he's indestructible - how friggin' heroic is that? I must be a superhero to ants! Phe4r meh magnifying glass heat ray of doom!

    Speaking of which, how does Superman get a haircut? Wouldn't the scissors just break on his superfollicles? Or shave his superstubble for that matter. Or trim his supertoenails?
  • Dirty_Harry_PotterDirty_Harry_Potter Join Date: 2002-11-21 Member: 9500Members
    edited February 2003
    he's a "superhero", although he doesn't have any powers,in the new(at least here in denmark) series -can't remember the name right now- he cooperates with superman, amazing amazon(or whatever her name is) - and 2-3 other guys i can't remember the name of as evens.
  • Dirty_Harry_PotterDirty_Harry_Potter Join Date: 2002-11-21 Member: 9500Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Speaking of which, how does Superman get a haircut? Wouldn't the scissors just break on his superfollicles? Or shave his superstubble for that matter. Or trim his supertoenails<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->he doesn't <i>need</i> a haircut he's hair is always filled with gell and super powers - but if he wnated to get onger, or shorter hair, by getting a haircut - <i>then</i> he would have to be radiated by kryptonite all the time <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    the show you are refering to is JL (Ithink A) Justice League (of america)
    and it is wonder woman ;D
    aLso probably has:
    vision (cyborg magic dude), The flash, and Green Lantern

    And yes, batman IS CRAZY
  • p4Samwisep4Samwise Join Date: 2002-12-15 Member: 10831Members
    I think what you <b>really</b> want to argue is the definition of superhero. And I'd say that whatever it is, it should include Batman, because he's cool. "Costumed crimefighter" usually equals "superhero" in my mind.

    Because if Batman's not a superhero, then neither is the Green Lantern, since all HE has is the power ring.
  • DubersDubers Pet Shop Boy Edinburgh, UK Join Date: 2002-07-25 Member: 998Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--MonsieurEvil+Feb 27 2003, 08:58 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MonsieurEvil @ Feb 27 2003, 08:58 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Seconded. I mean, you have to have some SuperCojones in order to jump off buildings holding onto a piece of fishing line while you can't see a thing due to your batmask. All while wearing tights that have no sekrats. Any wanker from Krypton can be a hero when he KNOWS he's indestructible - how friggin' heroic is that? I must be a superhero to ants! Phe4r meh magnifying glass heat ray of doom!

    Speaking of which, how does Superman get a haircut? Wouldn't the scissors just break on his superfollicles? Or shave his superstubble for that matter. Or trim his supertoenails? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Fishing line! ROFL You sure it aint high tensile steel wire? Something I always wanted to know tho was how does he make his spandex tights bulletproof? They jus bounce off him like nothin else.
  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    samwise = the winner, he got it straight out

    as for bullet proof apndex, I don't think they are suposed to be (it only shows up in the movies)
  • DY357LXDY357LX Playing since day 1. Still can&#39;t Comm. England Join Date: 2002-10-27 Member: 1651Members, Constellation
    edited February 2003
    In all the chaos, confusion, fishing wires, tight pants and penguins
    you have all overlooked the true power behind Batman.... Alfie the Butler.

    ALL HAIL ALFIE!
  • AllUrHiveRblong2usAllUrHiveRblong2us By Your Powers Combined... Join Date: 2002-12-20 Member: 11244Members
    I wanna see batman get in a fight with a REAL superhero. Like Spiderman.

    Batman would be all badass looking hardcore, then this little nerdy kid will punch him in teh kidneys with amazing speed and Batman would be missing a good chunk of his torso. Batman is a joke.

    One of his major allies has a MULLET for christ's sake!
  • KboTKboT Join Date: 2002-11-20 Member: 9436Members
    Superman is better (Hence my Avatar)
  • Uh-OhUh-Oh Join Date: 2002-11-04 Member: 6917Members
    edited February 2003
    Batman is teh ghey.

    My real question is... where does he get all his money.
    How is it that he is so athletic if you never see him train in a gym or with martial arts instructor.
    How does he build all his $hit? I mean, I don't read the comics, I didn't see most of his film, but I do recal seeing a batcar, a batplane and a batboat... WHERE DID HE BUILD THOSE? It's like he has his own little car factory like GM or Ford or wathever....

    Anyways, his suit is teh ghey, and his ghey boyfriend is teh ghey too.

    Peace, all love... PANTSMAN! *Catchy beat* Tanana na na na nana na nanana PANTSMAN!!
  • KboTKboT Join Date: 2002-11-20 Member: 9436Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Uh-Oh+Feb 27 2003, 07:52 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Uh-Oh @ Feb 27 2003, 07:52 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Batman is teh ghey.

    My real question is... where does he get all his money.
    How is it that he is so athletic if you never see him train in a gym or with martial arts instructor.
    How does he build all his $hit? I mean, I don't read the comics, I didn't see most of his film, but I do recal seeing a batcar, a batplane and a batboat... WHERE DID HE BUILD THOSE? It's like he has his own little car factory like GM or Ford or wathever....

    Anyways, his suit is teh ghey, and his ghey boyfriend is teh ghey too.

    Peace, all love... PANTSMAN! *Catchy beat* Tanana na na na nana na nanana PANTSMAN!! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    haha AGREED!!
  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    lol, to sum up your post

    "I Know nothing about what I am talking about BUT I am going to say that my opinion is right so THERE neyhh!!!"


    As for explenations:
    Go read the comics
    1) He is the owner and CEO of a major corperation
    2) They do show this
    3) its a friken comic book, probably builds in in the batcave (I am assuming he has some shops down there (ie meatle working)
  • saint0zsaint0z Join Date: 2002-10-16 Member: 1505Members, Constellation
    edited February 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--[p4]Samwise+Feb 27 2003, 09:51 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> ([p4]Samwise @ Feb 27 2003, 09:51 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Because if Batman's not a superhero, then neither is the Green Lantern, since all HE has is the power ring. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    yeah but the ring enables him to do superhuman things, thus making him a superhero

    anyone can swing on that fishing line, but not to many are crazy enough to do it...

    batmans just the worlds greatest detective and is pretty handy with those batarangs
  • MonklaMonkla Join Date: 2002-10-08 Member: 1458Members
    Samwise what i would call a superhero is some one with a non-human ability. Like super super strength or super speed, invisablity, flight, laser eyes, x-ray vision etc. The Green Lantern could be argued because he himself has no power. It is the ring that gives him his power. Batman is a crime fighter and just because someone is a crime fighter dosen't mean they are a superhero. Poliece officers fight crime but they are not superheros. As for how he has all his money is a little odd. I mean you rarely see him work and he never gets any sleep so how does he run his company? So for the most part i agree with what Uh-Oh said, except for the pantsman thing. I really don't like pants, but thats a whole other thing.
  • p4Samwisep4Samwise Join Date: 2002-12-15 Member: 10831Members
    1) Superman shaves by reflecting his own heat vision off a piece of metal from his spaceship.

    2) WOO I AM TEH WINNAR!!!!!

    3) So if Batman finds a magic wand then that suddenly makes him a superhero in your mind? Psssh. Superhero is as superhero does. And for the record, Batman could probably kick the arse of many superheroes because he's smart. If he had to fight Superman for some reason, he'd load up on Kryptonite, and outwit Superman quite handily. As far as brains go, of all the major superheroes, only Spiderman is on the same level as Batman (and I think Batman has it over Spidey in terms of being worldly and perceptive, at least).
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