Keyboard/mouse Problems

Whatsit · February 2003

<div class="IPBDescription">keyboard and mouse occasionally lock up</div>Greetings, all

Sometimes my mouse and keyboard will lock up for a few seconds. For instance, if I'm strafing left and firing, I will continue strafing left and firing for a second or two, regardless of what I do with my mouse or keyboard. Then it goes back to normal, without any apparent after-effects.
I've only ever noticed it in the heat of battle, although it might just be that I haven't noticed when it's happened at other times.

The problem doesn't occur in Windows, or any other program as far as I can tell, and I haven't noticed it in any other Halflife mods (though again, this doesn't mean it doesn't happen)

System Specs:
Athlon 800 @ 800MHz
Gerforce 256 DDR
SoundBlaster Live
640MB SDRAM
Windows XP
DirectX 8.1

Options:
1152x864 OpenGL
EAX disabled
A3D disabled

Any help would be greatly appreciated,

Whatsit

civman2 · February 2003

This happens to me too!!!!

mostly with my mouse tho, but it's wicked annoying, especially as commander.

if anyone knows why this is happening, please tell me and how i can fix it.

LegendOfTheBaggyPants · February 2003

Hey guys,
Someone else was having a problem similar to this, but i can't find that thread, so i'll repost my solution:

Disable print spooling.
(It works for me at least) It run as the spoolsrv.exe process i think.
Etc. etc.
-B
[SLAB]Legend Of The Baggy Pants

eaglec · February 2003

it could also be choke - drop the console and type net_graph 1, if you see lots of red on the graph during this hang then bandwidth is probably the cause.
or,
file indexing, make sure fastfind wasn't installed and disable the virtually useless XP file indexing service.
or,
virus scanning...
or,
Drive access. Do you have the right and latest mobo ide drivers? Especially important on via chipsets and the windows defaults can be a bit lame on perfomance. Does your drive light flash during these hang-ups?
or,
CPU. Run task manager and show the cpu graph on slow refresh, stretch it accross the width of the screen and play until you get a few hangups then take a look and see if cpu spiked to 100% during the hangs.

Bo_Selecta · February 2003

Used to happen to me as well, but only after playing for a while.
I always figured my craptastic pc just couldn't handle it.
...
haven't seen it happening in a while though, everything seems to be a whole f***ing lot more stable after updating my soundcard and chipset drivers.

(system specs: see Whatsit's, virtually identical)

SNoWDoGG · February 2003

I am having this same issue today(worked fine yesterday): The mouse locks up when the slide left slide right buttons or jump button is pressed. It does not occur in any other mod or game ( its not the machine) so this HAS to be NS related. Any ideas?

I have tried everything.... changing from USB to PS2 mouse / mouse frequency changes, turned off excess services like print spooling, toggled mouse filtering and windows smoothing.... nothing helps. WHATS THE DEAL GUYS?<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'>?

SNoWDoGG · February 2003

HELLO IS ANYONE OUT THERE?<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'>?

DID ANYONE PREVIOUSLY SOLVE THIS ISSUE?? IF SO HOW"???

I CAN'T PLAY AND ITS KILLING ME!!!!!

Whatsit · February 2003

Hmm well I _think_ my problem's been fixed... though the last couple of times I said that it flared up again right after

Anyway, I've narrowed it down to either drive access or CPU usage. Print spooling isn't the issue. Internet connection speed isn't the issue. I still have indexing service turned on (just found out about that, it'll be the first thing to go if I get the problem again)
If that fails, I'll be forced to upgrade to DirectX 9.0
Then it'll be new IDE drivers
Then a sacrificial lamb

If you're having a problem... first, turn off file indexing. It really is useless.
Otherwise, I think I'm leaning towards drive access being the problem... so if you still have a problem, try shutting down anything running in the background that accesses the hard drive for any length of time. If that doesn't work, try shutting down anything running in the background at all.

Oh, and thanks to everyone who offered help <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

*sigh* I'm guessing 24 hours before I get the exact same problem again <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'>

SNoWDoGG · February 2003

I really don't think it is a system related problem. If it was a system related problem the issue should follow you to all HLDS mods... it doesn't. It is isolated to NS and XP I am fairly sure. I was running 2000 pro and upgraded to XP when the issue started. Like I said it only happens in NS.
Things I have done:

Switched to PS2 mouse
updated mouse drivers
modified mouse refresh rates
toggled MS smoothing AND m_filter
turned off excess system resource users
modified and tried several game network settings (rate, cl_update, cl_cmdrate, fps_max)
Observed no lag during freezeup in netgrapgh
the list grows....

Whatsit · February 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Whatsit @ Feb 25 2003, 08:55 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> *sigh* I'm guessing 24 hours before I get the exact same problem again <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'>  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
I hate being right...

SNoWDoGG · February 2003

Well I guess we are on our own here.... thanks for the help guys!@. NOT!

Tsungfai · February 2003

Man, it's happening to me too... <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif'>

chowder · February 2003

I had this sticky/laggy keyboard/mouse problem also. Only with NS, but not CS, etc.
If you have any Microsoft Intellitype Software/Drivers for one of those fancy keyboards, uninstall it all. That fixed it for me.
Good luck.

Hunding · February 2003

I have a related problem with all mods. Occasionally my controls will lock up completely under the same circumstances (holding up and left and doing other things maybe), but they remain locked. I have no input control from my keyboard or mouse and have to hit the restart button on my machine. The computer itself has not locked up however, as I can still see and hear the game going on around me.

SNoWDoGG · March 2003

OK my problem finally ceased. It stopped after I updated the Direct X drivers. I tried about a thousand things however and if this does not work for you I apologise.... all I can say is that you need to upgrade all your drivers and tweak your system to optimal performance.

BTW WTH is the point of having a tech support forum if the creators of the game don't assist you in tech support?

Tsungfai · March 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SNoWDoGG @ Mar 1 2003, 08:41 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> OK my problem finally ceased. It stopped after I updated the Direct X drivers. I tried about a thousand things however and if this does not work for you I apologise.... all I can say is that you need to upgrade all your drivers and tweak your system to optimal performance.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Looks like upgrading my Direct X don't work for me... <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'>

Rashagan · March 2003

I have windows xp and yeah I have the same issue. the game runs just fine and I have cable and a 64meg card and run it in the resolution they suggest which runs smoothy until I shoot my gun or attack and arc my mouse around while moving for a quick turn. It's not lag from the graphix or my connection I know that it only happens when I shoot my gun and move my mouse too fast. It's almost like a anti pro handicap or something lol. I think I might just upgrade to direct x 9 then and get my latest drivers for my card. If the problem doesn't go away then I think the their team should look into it. I play alot of games and this is the only game that has done this to me so I'm really wondering.

SNoWDoGG · March 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Tsungfai @ Mar 1 2003, 11:51 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Looks like upgrading my Direct X don't work for me... <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'>  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
OK I left this out because I was not sure if it really was the solution or not ... but I downgraded my Nvidia driver from the latest greatest to like 40.71. That may be the key... try it out and see what it does. Please post back here what you find.

Tsungfai · March 2003

I upgraded everything, now it stopped!!!! W00T!!! <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

Just hope I didn't jinx it.... <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'>

SNoWDoGG · March 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Tsungfai @ Mar 3 2003, 12:07 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I upgraded everything, now it stopped!!!! W00T!!! <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

Just hope I didn't jinx it.... <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
Sweet! Now tell us EXACTLY what you upgraded....

Tsungfai · March 2003

Well, since the locking was only in the mouse, and my mouse is a Logitech USB WheelMouse, I went to their website and downloaded a mouse upgrade and it fixed it.

For now....

SNoWDoGG · March 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Tsungfai @ Mar 3 2003, 11:58 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Well, since the locking was only in the mouse, and my mouse is a Logitech USB WheelMouse, I went to their website and downloaded a mouse upgrade and it fixed it.

For now....</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
hrrmmm that step did me no good.... I guess this is STILL a mystery!

Eighthman · March 2003

I had the same problem and i tryed every thing and i found it was fixed in the latest video driver for a ati radeon

do you have this <a href='http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm?page=products/details&CRID=3&CONTENTID=4992&countryid=2&languageid=1' target='_blank'>mouse</a> by any chance?

but you had a geforce so im not shure

Tsungfai · March 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Eighthman @ Mar 3 2003, 05:12 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I had the same problem and i tryed every thing and i found it was fixed in the latest video driver for a ati radeon

do you have this <a href='http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm?page=products/details&CRID=3&CONTENTID=4992&countryid=2&languageid=1' target='_blank'>mouse</a> by any chance?

but you had a geforce so im not shure </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
My mouse was named Logitech USB WheelMouse and the website had a few list of names of mice, but the link you have listed was the only mice that was similar to mine that was listed.

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