Blood

SoBe_DragonSoBe_Dragon Join Date: 2002-12-04 Member: 10465Members
how come there is no blood in ns? Every now and then you'll see the green blood from the aliens, but how come there are no gibs when someone dies from an explosive? And when a marine gets bit or shot with spines, or slashed, why doesnt he doesnt bleed?

This has prolly been asked, but i'm at college and that just ran across my mind. Constructive insight/answers only please =)

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  • FantasmoFantasmo Join Date: 2002-11-06 Member: 7369Members
    I think it was a (wise) business decision.

    Gibs and blood is a glorification of violence. NS has chosen to let gameplay and design stand out above flash, blood, and gore.

    I completely and wholeheartedly agree with their decision.

    <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • Ph0enixPh0enix Join Date: 2002-10-08 Member: 1462Members, Constellation
    Do a search for blood. It's been debated nth times already.
  • Rabid_LlamaRabid_Llama Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4340Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--SoBe.Dragon+Feb 19 2003, 12:06 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SoBe.Dragon @ Feb 19 2003, 12:06 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> how come there is no blood in ns? Every now and then you'll see the green blood from the aliens, but how come there are no gibs when someone dies from an explosive? And when a marine gets bit or shot with spines, or slashed, why doesnt he doesnt bleed?

    This has prolly been asked, but i'm at college and that just ran across my mind. Constructive insight/answers only please =) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Because Flayra says so <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
    No, seriously, that's why -- I've seen it said before that Flayra doesn't like the idea of blood and gore in NS, so there never will be anything more than the current subdued alien bloodstains. I tend to agree -- NS isn't about gibs, they just wouldn't fit.
  • DY357LXDY357LX Playing since day 1. Still can&#39;t Comm. England Join Date: 2002-10-27 Member: 1651Members, Constellation
    Oh no anther blood topic!
    *Hides under a Movement Chamber*
  • SoBe_DragonSoBe_Dragon Join Date: 2002-12-04 Member: 10465Members
    edited February 2003
    I hate the search button. heh. Well absolutly no blood doesnt exactly <i>fit</i> this type of themed game. Thats just my opinion. I'm not suggesting soldier of fortune...but i was just curious as to Flay's thinking when it comes to the subject. I like TFC gore...you snipe someone and they gib, keke...and you can decide how badly someone gibs with console commands...

    ohh i get it. See, i was thinking more along the lines of tfc. That kind of blood is no big deal...however, there are deathpacks that you can download for cstrike that make it so when you shoot people blood spatters onto the floor and walls, and stuff. I got it, it kicks arse! I think something like that for ns would be cool.

    Another question. Why is it that when I get killed from a turrett it shows on the right side "SoBe.Dragon killed self with turrett"....it doesnt actually <i>say</i> that in the console, but thats what the icon on the right suggests. Shouldnt my name come before the turrett icon?

    How come when i join the alien team when the game starts, I start with 10 res (which usually ticks right up to 13). But if I join the game late, I start with 0?
  • Rabid_LlamaRabid_Llama Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4340Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--SoBe.Dragon+Feb 19 2003, 12:15 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SoBe.Dragon @ Feb 19 2003, 12:15 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Another question. Why is it that when I get killed from a turrett it shows on the right side "SoBe.Dragon killed self with turrett"....it doesnt actually <i>say</i> that in the console, but thats what the icon on the right suggests. Shouldnt my name come before the turrett icon?

    How come when i join the alien team when the game starts, I start with 10 res (which usually ticks right up to 13). But if I join the game late, I start with 0? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    1) Because if your name was on the left side, it would read "SoBe.Dragon killed <nobody> with turret", which would make less sense <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
    2) Because at the start of the game, each team has some resources. The marines' resources all go to the comm, and the aliens' get split up between them. I think each skulk having 10 is some function of the bigger-team-gets-more-res code/concept.
  • SoBe_DragonSoBe_Dragon Join Date: 2002-12-04 Member: 10465Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Rabid Llama+Feb 18 2003, 07:17 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Rabid Llama @ Feb 18 2003, 07:17 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->
    1) Because if your name was on the left side, it would read "SoBe.Dragon killed <nobody> with turret", which would make less sense <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    yeah you're right, that would make less sense. But they way I am currently looking at it, is it looks like i'm committing suicide via the turrett =/ wutever =)
  • Ph0enixPh0enix Join Date: 2002-10-08 Member: 1462Members, Constellation
    Turret thing - pass. Res thing - to stop res donating exploit. It used to be every time you connected you got 10 res.

    Sooooo, you connect, get 10 'free' res, type retry in console, you leave, your res goes into pool, you re-connect, get 'free' 10 res, type retry in console.....etc, etc.

    It lead to the aliens being able to get obscene amounts of res very quickly.
  • Rabid_LlamaRabid_Llama Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4340Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--SoBe.Dragon+Feb 19 2003, 12:21 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SoBe.Dragon @ Feb 19 2003, 12:21 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Rabid Llama+Feb 18 2003, 07:17 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Rabid Llama @ Feb 18 2003, 07:17 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->
    1) Because if your name was on the left side, it would read "SoBe.Dragon killed <nobody> with turret", which would make less sense <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    yeah you're right, that would make less sense. But they way I am currently looking at it, is it looks like i'm committing suicide via the turrett =/ wutever =) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Well, no player truly built or controls the turret, so whose name should go to the left of the turret? I suppose the comm who built it could be credited with the kill, since HE put it there... hmmm...
  • CBD-IkariyaCBD-Ikariya Join Date: 2003-01-05 Member: 11841Members
    Another thing I can think of is that blood in melee is quite messy. Because you're so close, the blood sprites look quite ugly, and can have the potential for blocking your view. Not that your view isn't already blocked <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • SoBe_DragonSoBe_Dragon Join Date: 2002-12-04 Member: 10465Members
    to me, blocking a view with blood is more acceptable then blocking a few with models
  • supadupaflysupadupafly Join Date: 2002-11-13 Member: 8534Members
    i think there should be lots of blood in it.. caus then it would be a 18+ game and parents wouldn't like their kids to play it wich would get ride of thoose freaking light voices of kids shouting all the time... .grrrrr <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • coilcoil Amateur pirate. Professional monkey. All pance. Join Date: 2002-04-12 Member: 424Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    Marine blood will not be appearing in NS. Thanks for playing. Please go read the S&I FAQ.
  • OlljOllj our themepark-stalking nightmare Fade Join Date: 2002-12-12 Member: 10696Members
    Im 23 and my mic and telephone voice sounds like my mother - my mothers voice is even awful for a mother , now guess...
  • MedHeadMedHead Join Date: 2002-12-19 Member: 11115Members, Constellation
    Blood isn't necessary in Natural Selection. I prefer it without.

    And what's with the screenshot?
  • NarfNarf Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2609Members
    I wouldn't want gooey globs of gore splattered on the wall, but some kind of visual clue when a marine gets bitten/swiped would be nice... that or a more distincitve noise than the one right now. Sometimes I'm not sure if i'm biting a marine's arse or the air
  • Crazed-OneCrazed-One Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 7027Members
    Though this has been beaten to death, when it was brought up, people did agree armor shards being knocked off would be a good idea.

    So..........., unless it sucks up to much cpu server usage I think the armor shard thing was a good idea.
  • NarfNarf Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2609Members
    wouldn't "armor shards" falling off be a client-side effect?
    Well whatever, I know it has been beaten to death but frankly i am to lazy to use that magic "search" feature everyone harps about and go dig up an ancient thread
  • SoBe_DragonSoBe_Dragon Join Date: 2002-12-04 Member: 10465Members
    well the screenshot was off topic. I asked a quick question about the turrett kill icon, and he made a suggestion. The screenshot was showing something cool. Read the thread if you wanna know why thats there =)

    Blood isnt neccessary in any game. But I do like what Narf is saying. Some sort of visual representation that you hit a marine. As of right now the only representation that you hit a marine is that he flies half way across the hallway, lol.

    So coil, people cant even release custom packs that will allow blood and/or gore on their machine? And coil, I didnt ask "Hey, can we put blood in NS?" I asked, "WHY isnt it there?" Directing me to the FAQ was the right thing, telling me "Thanks for playing" was not called for. You should try and use that search button sometime...I searched for blood and nothing of use came up at all.
  • masterswordmanmasterswordman Join Date: 2002-12-21 Member: 11303Members
    First of the server would have to keep track where every shard is, before it disapears, I'm up for it, It won't really affect bandwidth usage, but cpus are cheaper that bandwidth. And also, when you bite a marine, you see sparks.

    "Oh my god that's like so <span style='color:green'>***CS LANGUAGE***</span>
  • MavericMaveric Join Date: 2002-08-07 Member: 1101Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--masterswordman+Feb 19 2003, 04:03 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (masterswordman @ Feb 19 2003, 04:03 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> And also, when you bite a marine, you see sparks. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    on the upper torso, which you dont see as a skulk and are either too far to see or are blocked/not displayed correctly when they come through the model.

    Infact, its <i>very</i> hard to tell weather you hit a marine or not.

    If there were a trail of light blood from every marine i bit off, i'd be one happy skulk. And yes, i know the nano's are supposed to heal up wounds quick but this is MASSIVE damage... could nano's repair a bite wound from a gator or croc so fast as to stop blood in less than a second? Not bloody likely.
  • GreedoGreedo Bounty Hunter Join Date: 2002-01-24 Member: 37Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    Blood, sniper rifles, laser weapons...

    These are all things that are never going to be in NS, simply because Flayra doesn't want them in NS. And, well, whatever he says, goes.
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