Ns Fourth Place!

Lightning_Blue · February 2003

<div class="IPBDescription">in Top Mods For Half Life By Players</div> <a href='http://www.gamespy.com/stats/mods.asp?id=15&s=1' target='_blank'>http://www.gamespy.com/stats/mods.asp?id=15&s=1</a>

Not that far away from beating TFC <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

TipTop · February 2003

Which mod is valve and why does Counter Strike feature twice <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'> 2266 players my proberbial backside. I see more flamers on the boards than that ... <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'>

Lightning_Blue · February 2003

I think valve is HL deathmatch?

Fizzer · February 2003

the mod 'valve' is half-life death match - the original multiplayer game that came with HL (still a good laugh but full of hackers)

The second counterstrike I <i>think</i> is a 'retro' CS. Someone re-released an old beta of counterstrike which is quite popular. (not sure which beta it is though)

I think that, although you can get an idea of ratio's between games with these figures, I don't think that all of the servers in existance are listed.

St0nkingByte · February 2003

gawd CS with 80k players. I remember playing it when GameSpy said it had around 1600 players and trying to convince people it was good stuff. Of course I haven't really played it in earnest since 2000. I got bored with it really quickly <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'>

I'm sure NS will grow over time. The amazing thing to me tho is how much more polished NS' first release is compared to the first couple years of CS (or any other mod). The quality of the maps and models in NS is simply amazing compared to other mods.

Incitatus · February 2003

350 servers?
My all seeing eye lists at least 500

Supernorn · February 2003

4th place now!
but that is still undeserving of the hard work and money the NS team put into this mod..pfft..NS should be third at least...

its probably not doing so well as the straight DM games because NS requires stragety and brains...something 81615 players obviously cant grasp....

masterswordman · February 2003

Oh no <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif'> Some people are too dumb to play rts/fps games of yes.

DrSuredeath · February 2003

Bleh, I was thinking it's gonna beat DoD.

Guess we still aint getting far from WWII mania.

Gwahir · February 2003

NS has been in fourth place since somewhere about day 2 of release

Avatar · February 2003

I don't think you will ever see it move past 3rd. People probably turn away from NS because it take more thought then CS or DoD. More thinking then shooting really. And some people just don't like that. So I think NS will always stay in 4th, not saying though I wouldn't want to see it take the place of TFC, DoD, or even CS one day.

Heist · February 2003

Give it time...
It's by far the newest of the mods there and is still growing.

Avatar · February 2003

True, but it would be nice if like Planethalflife or something start putting more out about NS. Or even starting a new section for it, just so that it would get more attention. And does anyone know when Cal is going to start up there league for NS?

SemperFi1 · February 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Avatar @ Feb 18 2003, 03:37 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> True, but it would be nice if like Planethalflife or something start putting more out about NS.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
NS is on PHL almost every day under the POTD.

Avatar · February 2003

Ya good point, they have some really good ones on there.

Dread · February 2003

Uh, don't worry, half of the CS players will be crazy over NS when they hear about the flame-thrower(if/when it comes out)

...thats actually kind of scary <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'>

Aphon · February 2003

out of all my friends that i have gotten to try out NS, only 1 actually plays regularly. all of the others didnt want to take the time to learn how to play the game and just went back to cs <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'>

BarxBaron · February 2003

NS n00b and CS vet here

tried NS 1 time and I haven't looked back since <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/pudgy.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='pudgy.gif'>

Ollj · February 2003

Hey dont expect too much from the HL community.
When bunnyjumping, ..viewmodel 0 and other exploits will be fixed, NS will fall to the 10th place and lower.

Supernorn · February 2003

dont worry Ollj. The majority of NS players dont exploit any of that stuff..and to be honest, i wont be missing the people who do....

Kid-A · February 2003

I predict:
NS will reach 3rd...

Because CS is impossible to top, its simple premise is one of those 'minutes to learn, years to master' (Which is the best way to get a large audience). I started with CS (a looong time ago) but I prefer to respawn.

Dod will not be beaten because although it has a steeper learning curve its still simple. Also it's WWII and will probably be retail soon. I still play Dod.

NS has a very steep learning curve but if you get over that hurdle its great. So NS will slowly convert a dedicated following. NS will also go retail imho. Its just so polished and the HL engine was made for indoors.

Narfwak · February 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Avatar @ Feb 18 2003, 08:43 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Ya good point, they have some really good ones on there.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
I have a feeling that the PHL team really likes NS.

KMGor · February 2003

"The second counterstrike I think is a 'retro' CS. Someone re-released an old beta of counterstrike which is quite popular. (not sure which beta it is though)"

WTF. I remember there used to be several 5.2 servers (like 5 or 6 months ago), but I don't even see the second CS you're talking about.. If there was a server that was 6.6 or 6.5, I'd be on there a lot... CS 6.5/.6 is my all time favorite online game of any type. It went waaaaaaaaay downhill after that.

Personally, I think NS will eventually get to third, if they work the kinks and bugs out. And maybe toss in a tutorial of some kind. The manual isn't good enough.

Narfwak · February 2003

What would <i>really</i> get lots of people in would be not only a tutorial but also a short single-player campaign. That would be <i><b><u>AWESOME.</u></b></i>

Deacon · February 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Dr.Suredeath @ Feb 18 2003, 03:09 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Bleh, I was thinking it's gonna beat DoD.

Guess we still aint getting far from WWII mania.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
DoD has been out for a while. It's had a lot of releases to refine its balance, add new features, and grow the community. DoD also came out at a time when a lot of first-wave CS people were leaving, and was a natural place for those folks to go. And it's a fine, well-made mod.

And NS is always going to be at a disadvantage, due to the anti-newb factor:
<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='skulk.gif'> OMG newb, go back to skulk!
<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/pudgy.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='pudgy.gif'> Why? You guys said you wanted base defenses. I had extra rp and wanted to help.
<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='skulk.gif'> WTF? D00d, did you not even read the manual? If you had more than 24 rp taxable income in 2002, you need to file a form 4012C before going gorge. And if you were a resident of more than one hive during that time, you need to file a 1080A, plus any additional forms required by each hive. Duh.

Ns Fourth Place!

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