My Uber Fade Tactic

sushibug · February 2003

<div class="IPBDescription">uber is german right?</div> we all know marines love to say "only way to kill a fade is to rush it." now more and more people are actually rushing me while i am fade. they go down even easier now! <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'> throw a couple acid rockets at whatever to get their attention. Don't get trigger happy because you need some juice to swipe. they will come after you charging with guns. take a hit or two.. get down to 80% health and run away. just go around the corner and listen for the marines rushing. when they get close pop out at the right time so you both meet at the corner and swipe away. thats my counter-rush strategy that has never (I repeat: NEVER) failed me yet. i play smart so i dont die as a fade unless i want to.

hope no one mentioned this before. i didnt notice anyone really using the same technique so.. if its a repost forgive me.

OttoDestruct · February 2003

Same goes for onos. I was in a game this morning, aliens had all three hives, marines had full upgrade and no defense (mines or turrets) yet we lasted for almost 20 minutes because we would rush everything that came at us. We musta taken at least 20 Onos, at least 10 fade, knifed several lerk, killed gorge, skulk, you name it. Rushing = fun.

w00teh · February 2003

As Fade/Onos there's nothing scarier than a whole team that chases you down until one of you dies. Conversely, there's nothing more amusing than one guy who rushes you while the rest of the team huddles around the armory and demands 1335 weapons (which last, at most, 15 seconds)

Cry_Havoc · February 2003

Yeah, it sucks when you're the only one rushing.

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K-suspended · February 2003

i all wayz get owned when i run in to a marines base when iam onos... they relly screw your up but u kill like 5 guys <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

Pika-Cthulhu · February 2003

Easy as Onos, hit charge, DONT swap to another weapon, and squish any marine. I never knew how deadly charge was, because I simply used to to get from a to b really fast, and swap to gore as soon as it was on, but now, I leave charge on, get ready, hit it, and squish all marines in base, if im hurting, ill charge for the door, if not, ill d another charge and kill some turrets.

iwilleatyou · February 2003

what do you do if somone just pops some nades around your corner, or flies by with a jp and gets you from behind? jp/hmger = bad time to have slash out

Cry_Havoc · February 2003

That's where redemption saves your alien butt.

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R32 · February 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (-]K|[-suspended @ Feb 15 2003, 02:54 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>I always get owned when I run into a marine's base when I am an onos, they really screw you up but you kill 5 guys <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

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I tried to fix your post so that the English speaking population here would have some idea what you are referring to. Is it really that difficult to spell "you" rather than typing "u"? I hate garbage like this.

Torgo · February 2003

By "garbage like this" you mean computer shorthand and so called "1337 speak"? Well, I have to agree I hate it as well, but it has taken over so forcefully, I don't think that most people's vocabulary and spelling can stetch beyond the boundary of "u" "1337" "uber" "h4x" "pwn" "brb" "gtg" "ttyl" "nm" and the dreaded..."lol"....It's like some plague where you absolutely have to use those terms and phrases or else people have no clue what you're talking about...poor, poor society....

Cry_Havoc · February 2003

Don't forget the disgustingly overused "ghey".

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Torgo · February 2003

Yeah, I forgot about that one...LOL!!!!!

GolGol · February 2003

You forgot the ¨over uber. It should be über...

Shockeh · February 2003

Actually, Swipe seems to be pretty generous on range for a melee attack. I've swatted JP'ers out of the air before.

sushibug · February 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (iwilleatyou @ Feb 14 2003, 11:59 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> what do you do if somone just pops some nades around your corner, or flies by with a jp and gets you from behind? jp/hmger = bad time to have slash out  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
for guys with GLs you time it. you know they only have 4 grens before they have to reload. if theres a pause after 2 or so that means they are reloading. come in with swipe and fall back as soon as you kill them. or wait til they get brave and come farther out then get them

as for JPers, i use acid rocket and i dont shoot directly at them. i shoot at the closest wall to them. that will guarantee splash damage. when they fly around it just takes longer to kill them but when you have regeneration you cant die because they cant aim that well while flying. hmg plus jp is a diff story, i keep my distance.

Jack_Handey · February 2003

What is the attraction to calling everything "Uber"? It means "Over" ffs!

Xpander · February 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Jack Handey @ Feb 16 2003, 04:00 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> What is the attraction to calling everything "Uber"? It means "Over" ffs!  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
o·ver ( P ) Pronunciation Key (vr)
prep.
1 - In or at a position above or higher than

It mean over in the above sense. For instance, Nietzsche coined the term "uber-mensch" to denote a person that has become morally "above" the average human.

But let's not encourage the stupid l337 talk kiddies to spread, shall we? They must be wiped out as soon as possible.

iwilleatyou · February 2003

so very true sushibug. but what about those sneaky lil rascals who wait after the first or second nade, or those jpers with shotgun who can hit you on the fly?

sushibug · February 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (iwilleatyou @ Feb 16 2003, 01:31 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> so very true sushibug. but what about those sneaky lil rascals who wait after the first or second nade, or those jpers with shotgun who can hit you on the fly?  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
i've never fought a shotgun JPer but for GLers you can also try blinking past them or the nades. blink is a very deadly move that im still learning to master.

Mythr1l · February 2003

heh i dont like rushing fades, 90% of the time its suicide without lvl 2+ lmg's (assuming the fade is good)

i much prefer to get into a place outside base, camp behind a wall where fades run past, wait for them to shoot 3-4 acid rockets, they go back and usually stop to regen their energy, run up behind them and put a mag of lmg in their back. good thing to remember is when fighting fades, your the skulk.

iwilleatyou · February 2003

yeah, blink is really badly done. a lot of the time it doesnt work, and when it does it can sometimes get you stuck. even with the jump-duck-blink it happens. maybe theyll have all the bugs worked out in 1.1(sighs and watches the sun pass over head)

as for anti-fade, i try not to rush as well. if you can get three or four shotgun blasts in they should go down. i like coming from behind like that. and jp + shottie= vent god. watch out

DarkWulf · February 2003

I don't know about you guys, but when I have a GL I don't always spam off all four at once. I sometimes shoot them slower than normal, or save a couple. I never shoot off groups of four, its just begging for people to hit you when you reload.

How that affects this thread? If I were a fade, and someone had fired two nades, I don't think I'd charge right in... <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'>

sushibug · February 2003

i just wanted to backup my tactics with a screenshot.

fyi i always take regeneration and adrenaline. redemption or carapace is just too time consuming. running back for hp cant get you this score.

btw i was at 26 kills before i went fade.

<img src='http://home.pacbell.net/sushibug/bast.JPG' border='0' alt='user posted image'>

maybe i'll make a demo next time. i cant die as a fade unless i want to die. you should see when i blink out of their base with 3 hp. its quite a rush. oh, teams werent always uneven.. there are F4ers every game.

Trevelyan_006 · February 2003

man... somepeople just dont realise that whatever you post up here has about 80% chance that it is total BS...

How?

1.) lying

or

2.) Totaly scewed environments (retarded marines that found their power button on the pc that day)

im not saying YOUR one of these... it is just that there are many many people that will not believe you.

sushibug · February 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Trevelyan_006 @ Feb 19 2003, 01:25 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> man... somepeople just dont realise that whatever you post up here has about 80% chance that it is total BS...

How?

1.) lying

or

2.) Totaly scewed environments (retarded marines that found their power button on the pc that day)

im not saying YOUR one of these... it is just that there are many many people that will not believe you.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
<img src='http://home.pacbell.net/sushibug/hera.JPG' border='0' alt='user posted image'>

i keep forgetting to record a demo. but while playing this map someone said to me that i was a good fade. i responded by telling them i put a thread about it on here. a couple people said they read that. and now they've seen me in action.. so..

i dunno why i would need to brag over a lie. one thing though... half my kills are as skulks. and most of my deaths are as skulks as well. what i notice all the time:

not enough people throw themselves out there. your skulks.. the lowest life form. and i always have like twice as many deaths to show for it. my kills are meaningful as well.. someone else also said that when im on their team we win.

okay enough bragging.. since no one believes me anyway. im done with this thread. try following my advice though. i see my fellow fades die all too often.

TheMuffinMan · February 2003

only 1 problem in your tactic, the pistol. Get 2 decent pistolers on you thats 300-400 damage in about 2.5-3 seconds. Luckily most pubbie marines dont know what a)the pistol is and b) the sharp pointy things on the end of the fades arms are. Other than that it works very well, i know cos i play with u regulary and have only seen about 2 rushes work (usually when a gler covers the fades exit with nades.

also i managed to kill so many skulks in that game above (^^) and i stopped several rushes. After about 5 mins i was about 13-4 and EVERY death was from that lil cheeseburger, i h8 u

Canadianmonk3y · February 2003

I love regen fades. FREE KILLS! KEKE ^_^

Torgo · February 2003

Well if you're getting free kills on regen fades then they're doing something horribly wrong. Like you dispute marines losing to another chamber order besides D first with the argument "then those marines must be freakin' stupid or n00b" the same thing must be said here, the fades that die with regen must be horribly unskilled and/or stupid as well...

Unrelated note - And about them screenshots...the reason that those marines couldn't kill you and you got a nice score was probably because of the horrible lag plaguing their entire team...

TheMuffinMan · February 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Torgo27 @ Feb 20 2003, 04:42 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Well if you're getting free kills on regen fades then they're doing something horribly wrong. Like you dispute marines losing to another chamber order besides D first with the argument "then those marines must be freakin' stupid or n00b" the same thing must be said here, the fades that die with regen must be horribly unskilled and/or stupid as well...

Unrelated note - And about them screenshots...the reason that those marines couldn't kill you and you got a nice score was probably because of the horrible lag plaguing their entire team...  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
no it wasnt cos of that. It was because he was just standing by the base acid spamming every1 who respawned like it was his first ever go at fade.

Nexus_7 · February 2003

I'm better.

FrickenMoron · February 2003

The main problem with blink is that it doesnt recognize "func_walls" etc as solid beings as they are entities, and promptly teleports into them, getting you stuck forever. Blink will never get you stuck in a normal world brush, but seeing many many wall entities used in NS, its quite common to get stuck somewhere. The only way to avoid this is to learn where those "fake" walls are, and avoid blinking into that direction.

My Uber Fade Tactic

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