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Trevelyan_006 · February 2003

<div class="IPBDescription">MAN!!!</div> you know... this has been bugging me sence the first version... is paricite hitscan or a projectile? every server i ask when i join... people go "uhh... i dont know play da game AAAHHH HA HMG RUN RUN!"

sekdar · February 2003

i'd put my money on hitscan

Vahn_Paktu · February 2003

All I know and care is that it has a limited range and goes to where ever you shoot. A fast projectile or hitscan. Do hitscan weapons have a range? if not then it is a projectile.

leek · February 2003

well me and a freind were doing some testing the other night he went marine and i went alien, we were doing this on tanith, he was building res towers at double res reactor room. i placed my crosshair over him and shot my parasite and when he moved away the res tower was parasited and not him, now he wasnt moving when i parasited him, and the crosshair was close 2 but not on the RT. but yet still he didnt get parasited and the rt did. confused as i am

Shockeh · February 2003

Bizarrely, I've only just noticed that paralyse is a projectile. Crazy.

I believe it's a projectile btw. Or at least it does have a graphic, as I'm sure I've caught glimpse of them.

TeoH · February 2003

I've not seen a parasite model, it *feels* like a hitscan weapon with limited range, but with no visual effects that i can see at all, other than a hitting sound, it's very difficult to tell exactly what's going on when you use parasite. I would welcome some informative visuals, perhaps some small parasite model that sticks into a wall for a short period after you fire. Even if its hitscan, this can still work - drawing the parasite as if it were a bullet decal.

TheHornet · February 2003

hitscan with a range limitation.

Nuketheplace · February 2003

I know for sure that all frontiersmen wepons are hit scan. Bile bombs and spore cloud seem to be projectile as far as I know everything else is hit scan for the kharaa

Amped1 · February 2003

At the risk of being called a n00b, what are hitscan weapons? projectile?

evil_kenshin · February 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DeAtH_tO_gOrDoN @ Feb 10 2003, 08:13 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> At the risk of being called a n00b, what are hitscan weapons? projectile?  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
well i know projectile is like a ranged weapon so i guess hitscan is close ranged sorta weapon

Thelion · February 2003

Ummm...no..

To give you the simple explanation, a projectile weapon actually fires a object at the enemy. Hitscan weapons however are different, you simply place the crosshairs over a target and fire. The computer then calculates whether you hit or not, if you "hit" then the enemy takes damage (note:most hitscan weapons have a more or less infinite range),if you dont then you will simply see the bullet-hitting-wall effect where you had aimed (assuming you hit a wall; which, considering the environments NS takes place in-is an inevitablility).

-Hunter <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'>

nny · February 2003

Have others experienced mixed results tagging marines clustered around one another, using an armory or building something ? There seems to be a slight halo to everything that parasite drifts towards.

Or my aim is really crummy. I'm thinking of my favorite Hera annoyance - parasiting marines as soon as they spawn, before they hop off the portal. Most don't bother to check out the vent, and those that do usually don't have a teammate to help them up to give chase. I have a feeling the distance limitation is short enough to affect hitting targets from the vent in Hera's marine start.

Shockeh · February 2003

No nny. The 'hitbox' just when it comes to parasite seems to be rather large.

I *think* this is a byproduct of the team trying to make para easier to use.

Example

| <- parasite 'beam' will only hit marine in exact line, so the crosshair has to be exact

| | <- parasite 'beam' much wider, which results in easier to hit, but means that will tend to 'snag' on other objects in the way (such as armouries)

SoulSkorpion · February 2003

Parasite is hitscan, therefore no projectile, therefore no hitbox. It hits exactly where you fire it, but I suspect that dodgy results might be due to hitbox errors in your targets (and we all know how poor NS's hitboxes are).

TeoH · February 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SoulSkorpion @ Feb 11 2003, 07:09 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Parasite is hitscan, therefore no projectile, therefore no hitbox. It hits exactly where you fire it, but I suspect that dodgy results might be due to hitbox errors in your targets (and we all know how poor NS's hitboxes are).  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
A hitscan weapon can still have a 'bullet size' even when there is no 'bullet'. Think blink. Parasite could easily have been changed to make it easier to connect with. Although i don't notice the mentioned behaviour.

AllUrHiveRblong2us · February 2003

Why does it have a model, then?

It's in the directory, right up there with spikes, and paralysis.

SoulSkorpion · February 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>A hitscan weapon can still have a 'bullet size' even when there is no 'bullet'. Think blink.</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>

I highly doubt blink works like that. I'd think it would be that a point is traced, then it tries to see if it can move the fade there. Ever tried to blink through a WoL? You do for about half a second, then get pushed back to where you were.

I've never, ever seen a hitscan weapon in HL which didn't have the same size hit. Blink probably uses the same functions to find its destination as hitscan weapons do, and (as far as I know) the target the tracer function hits is the same point size.

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Why does it have a model, then?

It's in the directory, right up there with spikes, and paralysis. </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>

Why is the bind for nukes still in? Why do the spikes show tracers when they're hitscan? Who knows?

Trevelyan_006 · February 2003

i think you are all as puzzeled as me, it would be awsome for a dev to come in here and show us all right/wrong...

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