Ns 1.1 Change

NightfireTG · February 2003

<div class="IPBDescription">just some weird questions....</div> i just want to know, what are the changes (big or small) in 1.1?
marines changes? alien changes?

ahhh...screw u ya S.O.A.B
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Tsungfai · February 2003

I think the lerk will be changed, but im not sure. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'>

Sevendashseven · February 2003

Well, here's what I know:
Pretty certain: '"Big" lerk changes, new maps, HLTV support, new Kharaa resource model (Making multiple gorges a feasible strategy).
Less certain: New GL model, major Kharaa gameplay changes (All evolutions always available, for example).

tweaked · February 2003

I heard that they were going to keep all evoloutions avalible when you have 1 hive but you need to get the other hives up to get the new attacks

KboT · February 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (tweaked @ Feb 8 2003, 01:20 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I heard that they were going to keep all evoloutions avalible when you have 1 hive but you need to get the other hives up to get the new attacks  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
You heard wrong, that would be HORRABLE!!! Think about it, the normal attack of an onos can kill a normal marine in 1-2 hits!!! I cant belive you would even belive that...

Slycaster · February 2003

Don't forget the exploit fixes, bunnyhopping and drawviewmodel, w00t!

Coyote399 · February 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (KboT @ Feb 8 2003, 12:37 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (tweaked @ Feb 8 2003, 01:20 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I heard that they were going to keep all evoloutions avalible when you have 1 hive but you need to get the other hives up to get the new attacks </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
You heard wrong, that would be HORRABLE!!! Think about it, the normal attack of an onos can kill a normal marine in 1-2 hits!!! I cant belive you would even belive that...  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
<a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=5&t=20615' target='_blank'>http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/in...=ST&f=5&t=20615</a>

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it wont be in 1.1, but they are going to try it

Sid · February 2003

They are making a new Grenade laucher model, and fixing up the LMG model. Thats all i heard, anyways.

Cronos · February 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (KboT @ Feb 8 2003, 05:37 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> You heard wrong, that would be HORRABLE!!! Think about it, the normal attack of an onos can kill a normal marine in 1-2 hits!!! I cant belive you would even belive that...  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
So can a skulk you know...

NightfireTG · February 2003

omg, the marines are definitely dead

w/ 3 hives, the aliens will win definitely...

Link · February 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (KboT @ Feb 8 2003, 05:37 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (tweaked @ Feb 8 2003, 01:20 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I heard that they were going to keep all evoloutions avalible when you have 1 hive but you need to get the other hives up to get the new attacks </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
You heard wrong, that would be HORRABLE!!! Think about it, the normal attack of an onos can kill a normal marine in 1-2 hits!!! I cant belive you would even belive that...  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
You thinking of species dopey. An evolution is carapace, celerity, cloaking etc.

The suggestion is that you can get all the towers up with the first hive.

coil · February 2003

Actually, he's correct - the suggestion was to have all 5 evolutions always available. It's true that an Onos is lethal... but it wouldn't have its charge or primal scream abilities with only one hive, and would likely be rather poorly equipped in the upgrades department (carapace, adrenaline, etc) as well. Additionally, Onos is expensive!!! Going Onos at 1 hive means *not* putting a hive up. But if the aliens are getting hammered in the mid-game and are down to 1 hive, but fairly well-equipped resource-wise, they may be able to go Onos (since they can't get a hive) and tip the scales back in their favor.

Anyway, it's not definitely in. It may be tried. We'll let you know how it turns out.

I also wouldn't be surprised if an idea like this is combined with switching Blink and Acid Rocket for Fades - they would be forced to melee until Hive 2 came up.

Thansal · February 2003

hehe I prefer melee fades ;D

also, in the interview Flayra said that there was a possiblity that the changed rez model would not go into 1.1 (If it were to seriously delay the release)

SmallPichu · February 2003

If a skull can go onos while having one hive, does that mean res count is 100 <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'>

ArgOnatH · February 2003

is there gunna be flamers too?! <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'> cuz that wud be very handy for clearing vents

DarkOmen · February 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SmallPichu @ Feb 9 2003, 04:48 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> If a skull can go onos while having one hive, does that mean res count is 100 <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'>  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Yes. There was talk about making it about 70, and rise with more hives, but Flayra figured that keeping it at 100 all the time would appear more professional.

sekdar · February 2003

in all seriousness, an onos earlygame would be sick.

im sure you've all played pubs where there is an onos in your base, and your ENTIRE marine team, as they spawn in, cannot kill it by itself.

granted, a good team should be able to kill one with concentrated fire, but while they are doing this, the skulks should be tearing the distracted marines apart <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

Omega1 · February 2003

I know it's gonna be pretty funny to see the "skill" level drop after 1.1, with the bunny hopping and drawviewmodel or whatever stuff being taken out. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'>

Omegaz · February 2003

b-hop is going down? how about for alien's though? aren't they theoretically machines that can run on an energizer battery?

twiliteblue · February 2003

Is blink going to be fixed? I hope it is changed so the ground you aim at is where your fade feet are going to be.

Fizzer · February 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (sekdar @ Feb 9 2003, 08:22 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> in all seriousness, an onos earlygame would be sick.

im sure you've all played pubs where there is an onos in your base, and your ENTIRE marine team, as they spawn in, cannot kill it by itself.
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An onos early game is still going to be almost impossible. lets face it, saving up 100 res will take a long time and that's assuming that the marines haven't stolen the majority of the res nodes early on.

Thansal · February 2003

80 REZ IS NOT EARLY GAME!!!!

remember, just b/c it will be avaliable does NOT meen that it will show up, yes peopel are going to try and just save all their reaz for an onos (assuming this idea goes through whuch is not stated ANYWHERE, simply discussed), however once people realize that 80 rez that early in the game is not a goof thing to blow on an onos b/c there will simply be people hunting your **** down

FlameThrower: NO, not unitll much latter if ever (he wants it to be perfect or not at all)

@Twilite do a search i nthe forums for Fade or blink IT DOES WORK, you just have to learn how to use it.

Ns 1.1 Change

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