So I Played For A Week,

killswitchkillswitch Join Date: 2003-02-05 Member: 13141Members, Constellation
<div class="IPBDescription">and here's what I noticed.</div> 1. When I first played, it seemed Fades were invincible. But really, if you wait until the've drained their energy then run at them and drain a clip of machine gun ammo and then pistol clip ammo, you'll probably take it down.
2. If you are in close quarters with a skulk and you just emptied a clip of LMG and done huge damage to the walls, air, etc., the aboslute worst thing you can do is reload. Pull out that pistol, drain that clip and then whip out that knife! The knife doesn't suck that bad at all!
3. I've been using the in-game method of joining games, and my screen goes through lots of flickers, and long load times, etc. Is there an easier way to join games?
4. Finally learned to put turret factories against a wall. I was a pretty good commander first time out.
5. Marines usually win in high ppl games, aliens win in low ppl games. All rom res I think.
6. Newbies that won't leave your base unless you deck them out completly are annoying. A fully upgraded marine with just an LMG can do quite a lot of damage. And it's free!
7. I really suck at aliens. I just wait until the hive is up then fade. I can't bite anything.
8. 2 HMG HAs and 1 HA with a grenade launcher, all with welders... tears aliens apart! So long as people take their time.
9. Pistol's a good weapon! For the initial skulk rush I sit at the back of a long corridor with my pistol. I empty it at long range where it's more accurate and still have a full clip of LMG when they get closer. Perfect!

10. If you are a marine with just an LMG and a pistol, and you're wounded, DO NOT SIT IN BASE BEGGING FOR MED PACKS! The truth is, your life is worthless. You would benefit the team far more running off and scouting a hive or something, ANYTHING, you're not worth the toruble or money.
Think about it, what's easier: dying or waiting for a med pack? Hell I'd even recommend /kill. EXCEPTIONS:
a) You are in a good location and maybe need to build things for the team.
b) You have good stuff (note: you can always drop an HMG and /kill)
c) Your base is under heavy assault and there is a reinforcement queue.

Comments

  • KitsuneKitsune Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7843Members
    1. Yep.
    2. Yep.
    3. All-Seeing Eye is a wonderful program for finding/joining servers. Only ten bucks for a year's subscription, or thirty for a lifetime one, and it works for just about any multiplayer game.
    4. Yep.
    5. Not necessarily. A good team will still prevail over a disorganized one.
    6. Yep.
    7. Keep trying, Skulks take a little getting used to, but are very strong for their non-cost.
    8. Yep.
    9. Yep.
    10. Yep.
    a) Yep.
    b) Only if someone's close enough to pick it up within twenty or so seconds of you dropping it.
    c) Yep.

    Glad you're enjoying the game!
  • Hozart1Hozart1 Join Date: 2002-12-14 Member: 10820Members
    Wow, this guy is a genius, I wish all newbies turned into semi-professionals this fast.
  • mojojojomojojojo Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2017Members
    Is it just me, or have a lot of new people been joining&posting in the last few days? I think I've seen more postcounts of 1 or 2 than I remember having seen before.
    Has somewhere big and new started linking to natural-selection.org? Has the latest patch caused a surge of interest into these forums? Or am I just wrong.
    Welcome Killswitch. It looks like you managed to work out the basics well.
  • TeoHTeoH Join Date: 2002-12-30 Member: 11640Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--killswitch1968+Feb 5 2003, 05:00 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (killswitch1968 @ Feb 5 2003, 05:00 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> 10. If you are a marine with just an LMG and a pistol, and you're wounded, DO NOT SIT IN BASE BEGGING FOR MED PACKS! The truth is, your life is worthless. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Well said, i value my /kill bind. Don't walk to key location when parasited, jump down a big pit first.

    At the same time, it should be said that there are more resources in this game than just res. Time, security, and tactical positions are resources, and loss of life in some circumstances, while not wasting any res, can still cost your team.
  • DaemonlaudDaemonlaud Join Date: 2002-12-30 Member: 11637Members
    Wow dude, you are a quick learner.

    Takes most people...never to learn what you have <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->

    Everything you said is pretty much true - and while a bad team will almost always lose over a good one, marines definitely have a huge advantage over aliens when players get above 18, and aliens can't lose games less than 6 people.

    If you are looking for a good, free alternative to All Seeing Eye, Server Query is excellent, but it does require a bit effort before you will find a consistent list of your favourite servers.
  • FireStormFireStorm Join Date: 2002-11-06 Member: 7390Members
    How to eat people:

    If your target has seen you you have to be very careful and fact. Try to escape if you're far from him. If you're close, try to get closer. If you want to get closer, you'll have to strafe like mad, and parhaps he'll even empty his clip. Then approach and bite.

    Turn around a marine. Don't stay at his legs, try to jump on him. Turn around when biting, just as if you were attacking a sentry turret.

    If you're too far, parasite him, your teammates will get him soon. If you're too far and have 2 hives, leap on him, he'll never manage to get you.
    Practice the leap&bite: Leap, switch your weapons in the air and bite.

    If you have upgrades, use them at your advantage: as a skulk I'd suggest:
    -[DC]: Carapace because if you have lvl 3 cara you can survive to a lot of marine bullets, and a skulk is weak.
    -[SC]: Cloaking because it's great in 1.04; You can even get to the base and parasite every marine that leaves.
    -[MC]: It depends, you can take what you want here:
    - Adrenaline if you want to leap a lot
    - Celerity if you want to be faster
    - Silence if you want to eat surprised marines (goes better with cloaking)
  • AlignAlign Remain Calm Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5216Forum Moderators, Constellation
    Allseeing Eye IS free, I dont see where people get the notion that you have to pay to use it... sure, it stops bugging you with the "scanner overloaded: compression disabled(saved for registered users)" message, and you can have an infinite number of "buddies"(I think), but you sure as hell dont actually <b><i>Need</i></b> to register it.

    And yes, NEVER run straight at a marine, unless you=behind him, with Silence. When you encounter a Heavy Armor it is better to parasite him and gang up before attacking him with bite... ESPECIALLY if he has HMG. GL cannot kill carapaced skulks in one hit I have noticed(TAHT AM ANNOYING).
    About the leap&bite thing, make sure you have lastinv bound to a button near your walking keys so you can leap and very quickly switch.
  • MMZ_TorakMMZ_Torak Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 3770Members
    Wow great post. I wish every new player took the time you did to learn.

    btw you can get The All Seeing Eye here: <a href='http://www.updsoft.com/eye/' target='_blank'>http://www.updsoft.com/eye/</a>


    (hmmm the link button isn't working, anyone else?)
  • VeTeRaNVeTeRaN Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7555Banned
    [/QUOTE]Allseeing Eye IS free, I dont see where people get the notion that you have to pay to use it... sure, it stops bugging you with the "scanner overloaded: compression disabled(saved for registered users)" message, and you can have an infinite number of "buddies"(I think), but you sure as hell dont actually Need to register it.[QUOTE]

    How about you get mIRC for FREE, and HLIT plugin for FREE.

    <a href='http://www.mirc.com' target='_blank'>http://www.mirc.com</a>
    <a href='http://hlit.laggyservers.com' target='_blank'>http://hlit.laggyservers.com</a>
  • Just_AyaneJust_Ayane Join Date: 2002-11-06 Member: 7317Members
    He's got it made! He's got it made!
  • cybranglcybrangl Join Date: 2002-12-30 Member: 11605Members
    One tip for marines that was pointed out was don't go to key locations when parasited. I have a follow-up suggestion: If you are parasited, go rambo if you are not immediately needed. Going off in another direction will attract wondering skulks looking for an easy kill. This means less aliens bothering the marines working. Who knows, you may take out a fe aliens and maybe some resource points.
  • MarLMarL Join Date: 2003-02-04 Member: 13097Members
    www.gametiger.com

    Great website...and free.

    Server search for like every game you can imagine.
  • dearthdearth Join Date: 2003-01-22 Member: 12569Members
    right on cy. this is especially effective in midsized games (8-12 people) where the initial skulk rush will leave at least one or two people parasited. those two running the wrong direction is a total slight of hand--even if the aliens are expecting the ruse, they won't know for sure, and will probably go for the parasite as a bird-in-hand.

    sun tzu: "appear weak where you are strong and strong where you are weak."
  • ImmacolataImmacolata Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2140Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    edited February 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--Align+Feb 5 2003, 03:58 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Align @ Feb 5 2003, 03:58 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Allseeing Eye IS free, I dont see where people get the notion that you have to pay to use it... sure, it stops bugging you with the "scanner overloaded: compression disabled(saved for registered users)" message, and you can have an infinite number of "buddies"(I think), but you sure as hell dont actually <b><i>Need</i></b> to register it. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    They probabl got the idea from THIS page:
    <a href='http://www.udpsoft.com/eye/register.html' target='_blank'>http://www.udpsoft.com/eye/register.html</a>


    If you don't want to be a freeloading ****, you're obliged to register the product after evaluating it for 21 days. The program isn't crippling itself after 21 days, because they are nice TO YOU. And what do they get in return? A cartload of bull's manure. It's shareware and it's capital B Bad to keep using after that period. ASE is worth the money if you game online stuff like NS, UT etc. Support it and don't start proselytizing for piracy and warezing, m'kay?
  • DraxoDraxo Join Date: 2002-11-22 Member: 9653Members
    nice, you've learned alot. Kudos

    as for aliens, dont spam that bite button as you're aproaching him. Not only will this alert the marine you're there, it will also potentially waste your initial bite, which is crucial, your bite only takes effect when your jaws close, so try not to just spam it, ruin your vision and may waste bites. Its disorientating at first, but with experience you wont even notice your jaws taking up your screen. Also, silence is awesome for a skulk, as is celerity for dodging bullets. Adrenaline is a waste on a skulk, some get it by habit though, saving it for fade or Lerk.

    As fade or lerk, Lerk is useless without adrenaline (real pitty too, changes coming in 1.1 i think)

    Most just use Fades for acid rocket, so get adrenaline if this is what you want as it takes alot of energy, but with celerity in place of adreneline, you are a mellee fighter to be feared! marines just cant escape your claws (note, rushing a HMG/HA isnt a good idea cept from behind...)
  • CutterJoeCutterJoe Join Date: 2002-12-30 Member: 11594Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--Immacolata+Feb 5 2003, 12:20 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Immacolata @ Feb 5 2003, 12:20 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Align+Feb 5 2003, 03:58 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Align @ Feb 5 2003, 03:58 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Allseeing Eye IS free, I dont see where people get the notion that you have to pay to use it... sure, it stops bugging you with the "scanner overloaded: compression disabled(saved for registered users)" message, and you can have an infinite number of "buddies"(I think), but you sure as hell dont actually <b><i>Need</i></b> to register it. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    They probabl got the idea from THIS page:
    <a href='http://www.udpsoft.com/eye/register.html' target='_blank'>http://www.udpsoft.com/eye/register.html</a>


    If you don't want to be a freeloading ****, you're obliged to register the product after evaluating it for 21 days. The program isn't crippling itself after 21 days, because they are nice TO YOU. And what do they get in return? A cartload of bull's manure. It's shareware and it's capital B Bad to keep using after that period. ASE is worth the money if you game online stuff like NS, UT etc. Support it and don't start proselytizing for piracy and warezing, m'kay? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    You tell em Imma.
  • FeydToBlackFeydToBlack Join Date: 2003-02-04 Member: 13079Members
    A great free combo for games is www.gametiger.com and HLSW(www.hlsw.org). gametiger to find the game, and HLSW to connect/keep lists. Both are free, and work for many games/mods.
  • ImmacolataImmacolata Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2140Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    <!--QuoteBegin--CutterJoe+Feb 5 2003, 06:52 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CutterJoe @ Feb 5 2003, 06:52 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> You tell em Imma. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yeah! As PAYING user of ASE I am on a righteous crusade! Besides there are many free utilities that does similiar a job to ASE. No need to pay for it,true, because they aren't exactly levying a monopoly there.
  • KillymageeKillymagee Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 3136Members
    OR how bout using Server info its really good for halflife and a few other games <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->

    <a href='http://www.sciencedrive.com/ServerInfo/' target='_blank'>http://www.sciencedrive.com/ServerInfo/</a>
  • SoBe_DragonSoBe_Dragon Join Date: 2002-12-04 Member: 10465Members
    if you cant bite anyone as skulk type this in console....

    r_drawviewmodel 0

    That bite model is most likely hindering your ability, give it a shot <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • ImmacolataImmacolata Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2140Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    I think the rdrawviewmodel thingy is in the grey zone. Can't remember if its an exploit, but it's definitely scorned at. The muzzle flash and jaw bites are meant to be there to obstruct your view some.
  • MMZ_TorakMMZ_Torak Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 3770Members
    edited February 2003
    I believe it isn't a grey zone. If I remeber correctly, it is considered a cheat and will be locked "on" in 1.1. So until then, who knows.......
  • LucidLucid Join Date: 2002-12-11 Member: 10534Members, Constellation
    Somebosy give this guy a freakin porshe or something. I think flayra should pay you to teach newbies how to play this game. Right on man.
  • SoulSkorpionSoulSkorpion Join Date: 2002-04-12 Member: 423Members
    Nice to see a newbie who's not a total moron! You're learned more in a week than some people know having played since the release <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->

    Oh by the way, I wouldn't worry about sucking as alien. The learning curve isn't so much a curve as a vertical line <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->. Stop by the Kharaa Strategy forum and flick back through the older posts, there's a lot of valuable info buried in there.
  • eagleceaglec Join Date: 2002-11-25 Member: 9948Members, Constellation
    Yes, very good you've pretty much got it there except for the /kill bit. Far better as a builder/decoy or scout than a dead marine. If you are with a group and wounded you can take point to draw out aliens and protect the more valuable members of the team, or you can scout a hive and report important info back to comm. If you are parasited you can use this to your advantage, move away from the group and start knifing a res tower or a hive, this draws the aliens in and buys your teammates a few seconds to do something more important down the road. Really push you luck with those last 50 hit points. I have actually taken out a hive when I was knifing it to draw aliens away so its a no loose situation!


    Earlier I was low on ammo, and the last surviving member of a hive attack team that had met 'greater than expected resistance'. Backup was not comming and I was not going to survive the trip back so with the aid of motion tracking I took out two skulks who closed in, then saw a fade run past so I chased him down and emptied my last clip into his belly - I am not sure who was more surprised when I killed him, after that I chased another fade back to their hive and then chased him round in circles for a minute with only a knife! So a skilled player would have sliced me to ribbons but I saved the team from a minutes worth of acid rockets. Typing /kill is only a little better than hitting F4 because they have onos, always go out fighting.

    Also watch out for hitboxes. - the short version:-
    dont bite a marines feet - especially not when he is on a ladder
    dont try to hit a HA marines in the head
    shoot skulks and gorges on highest point of the ridge of their back - not the head
    lerks hitbox is the rear half and half a Lerk above unless they are flying
    then it is rear half and half a lerk below
    Fades should be shot in the belly - never the face
    Onos have a very small hitbox, where was it again? just infront of the hind legs I think.

    When playing a lerk and shooting spikes ignore the tracer spikes - you always hit in the crosshair regardless of what it looks like.
    Oh, and learn to hold you fire (as alien too) only attack when you have the most to gain from it. dont try to chase down every marine and skulk cos it may be me just trying to buy some time!
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