How Do You Go 36 - 4 As A Skulk?

Harry_S_Truman · February 2003

Ok, I'm not one to brag but I've been playing NS since it was released and I consider myself an above average player. I'm far past the noobish stage. Today though, on an unnamed server, I was confronted by a player that went 36 and 4 as a skulk. He played NOTHING but skulk the entire game. I know how to aim, and I kill my fair share of skulks, but I put entire clips into this guy at point blank aim while he munched a turret and he STILL manages to kill me and 4 other marines standing around. Turrets shot at him, we shot at him, we cursed at him, but could not kill him. I've noticed this on BOTH sides of the coin too, in the past few days there always seems to be one guy here or there that just can't be killed by normal means. Yesterday it was a Marine that seemed resistant to skulk bites!

I haven't seen this type of thing until recently and I know my skills can't e that bad. Nothing unbalances a game more than one guy able to take out your entire team without a scratch.

This isn't a whine or a gripe but rather a inquiry as to whether I'm the only one seeing this recently?

MaTT · February 2003

Practice...

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Speed_2_Dave · February 2003

due to hitbox issues, some things are easy to exploit. If the marines aren't upgraded, a carapced skulk will take quite a beating compared to if he doesn't have carapace. Sometimes your aim is off? I've gone 40-6 with skulk before, but the marines couldn't shoot an onos in front of them, imho, and I used divine-wind twice (meaning my score was "better" before that)

I usually go gorge and get ungodly score-counts, merely because I build and attack accordingly.

as a marine, learning how to trace(follow) a skulk's movement pattern is the first step to winning the game, if you can't do that, you can't win.

FlatlineUTD · February 2003

I'm usually not a good skulk, but I instantly become 10x better when I've got lvl 3 carapace. That's my guess as to why you couldn't kill him.

Link · February 2003

I to have noticed this in some games. However, bear in mind that some people are exceptionally good at fps games in general, so maybe this is the result of these people haveing had the time to get thier "eye" in.

Liku · February 2003

Yeah, that's crazy! What a 1337 score, but nothing compaired to my DoD scores, right Editor312?

hoju2 · February 2003

Or here: <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

I know I'm not Skulk in any of these, but I had to use Skulk to get here, and most of my kills are as Skulk.

DanDaMan · February 2003

the trick to every fps game i've seen is to get inside the enemy's head. Know what he's gonna do before he does it and if you're a skulk you go where he won't shoot you and you bite his head off. If you're a marine you shoot where that skulk is gonna come around a corner, or if hes trying to play sneaky and hang on the ceiling

TheGlow · February 2003

Depends. Sometimes you just have a good day. I went 45/6 as skulk/lerk. So who knows.

DocZ · February 2003

If you're a skulk make sure you jump some BUT NOT TOO MUCH. Also do figure "8" patterns. Of course keep yourself munching, and never give up.

Evil_Timmy · February 2003

For me, it just depends on the sort of day I'm having; the same thing happens with every game I play. Some days I'm stuck at 10-8, other days I'll be 35-6. For example, in my CS rounds inbetween NS server changes, one day I had a 17 kill streak and ended the round 35-2, another day I went 1-7 (<b>not</b> using the evil AWP). Really, it comes down to knowing what the other team is going to do. If you can pick up on their overall strategy quickly, it's not hard to hide around a corner and munch through three unsuspecting marines in a row, and it's also not hard to nail the same amount of skulks from a convenient vantage point.

BelrickNZ · February 2003

If i lag i notice i live a hell of a lot longer and sum ppl find it impossible it kill me. This happens at odd hours when im forced onto other countries servers.

I suspect it was highly annoying to the players, in one stage i got 22 marine kills in a row as a skulk without dieing. (no not all at once and yes with lv3 carapace.)

Perhaps sum players deliberately exploit settings within the HL engine. In fact im sure they do as was the case in CS. (default rate and cl_update, cmdrate etc vs a player who tweaked them?)

lagger · February 2003

Bob, i'm going to have to regard this post as elite skill:

CForrester · February 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (lagger @ Feb 3 2003, 09:15 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Bob, i'm going to have to regard this post as elite skill:  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Doctored image. The 77 is misaligned and all the kills on the alien team do not add up to the marine deaths. Sorry, try again.

Harry_S_Truman · February 2003

Does turning the teeth off make a difference? I know some guys do this.

Onuma · February 2003

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Minstrel_Knight · February 2003

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Lucid · February 2003

Don't forget about godmode. I saw this guy turn on godmode (must be a server mod) for himself and he just went around parasite killing everyone. It makes you imune to damage. I'm pretty sure he was an admin. His name was the same as the server. I won't say what server it was but I will say it wasn't voogru so no one thinks that.

Archzai · February 2003

when u guys skulk.. do u tend to bite aroudn their feet... or do u jump at their face.....

do u guys do a mix of both.. like bite their feet a few times then jump around and bite them above?

cuz i think im jumping too much so its easy to hit? i really dunno... my skulking is decling while my aim for marines is pretty good now

lagger · February 2003

Lol i didnt make the image if u want the real .bmp rather then the **** .jpg i'll show u #er if u want further ones <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>. I'm hurt that you would say i made that.

PseudoKnight · February 2003

Kills and deaths not adding up could be due to people leaving the server.

Zombie_316 · February 2003

Something similar happened to me, however it involved me being a lerk. I had built D chambers inside a vent that was within the marine base (not sure on map but it had a hive called sewer) i gested into lerk and then stood Under the vent in plain sight while under the cover of a umbra cloud. I stood there for about 2 mins with like 3 marines shooting me, while i spiked their whole base to death:) Some of the marines even called me a cheater because i wouldn't die.

TeoH · February 2003

I've managed 30 odd to 2 before, anything is possible if the marines are just *that* bad.

Rabid_Llama · February 2003

I consider myself a pretty good skulk, and a large part of getting "l33t" scores is knowing when to retreat. It's much faster to run back to the hive or some D chambers and heal than it is to die and respawn and re-upgrade yourself. I'll hide up in the rafters somewhere, jump down and bite my way back out of the room. I'll take down two of the three marines in the room, and leave the survivors pretty darn nervous. Then I get back to the hive, heal up, and do it again.
Oh, that, and KNOW the vent systems. Coming out of a vent behind some marines is the best possible place for a skulk to be.

Ravlen · February 2003

Heh, you forced me to take out ye Olde Über Screenshot. Not doctored, and I still don't know how I got that many kills... The marines just kept jumping in front of mah claws. Also, we didn't have three hives until near the end. This was 25% 1 hive skulk kills, then 75% 2 hive fade kills. I'd estimate around 20 kills as skulk.

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Ravlen

snightmarek · February 2003

hmm about that skulk part hmm i think i know why while <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='skulk.gif'> here do you know cs? well i use to play it a lot untill ns came out and that helps my marine aim soooo much <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'> but anyway i myself when this guy with mp5 or a gun with a low clip or weak shots is trying to shoot me i simply strafe left right left right really fast i dodge 1/4 of the bullets but that might be the same effect he could have been strafing while biting the turret (or u just wern't upgraded at all you know)

snightmarek · February 2003

oh yeah now i read about biting feet and biting for head well when u bite for feet u might bite the floor instead of the feet you know like have you ever tried to bite a guy in a vent? well i bit an afk guy kept running around him untill my like adrenaline meter ran drie i bit him at all angles but i just decided to parasite him to death in vents u end up biting the walls roof or floor so that's another thing to think about in 1.5

Draxo · February 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (lagger @ Feb 3 2003, 09:15 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Bob, i'm going to have to regard this post as elite skill:  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
man, you beat my 64/4! *sob* <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='skulk.gif'>

Sirus · February 2003

I've been 21/0 as a skulk the whole game. Unfortuneately, we ended the game before I could get any more frags. I did that consecutively 3 rounds in a row. =D

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RandomEngy · February 2003

First of all, posting a "best score" really doesn't give a completely accurate picture of one's talent. A lot of it has to do with the people you're playing with and the circumstances of fighting. If you gorge around and don't die until you get 3 hives, then kill a lot of unskilled unupgraded marines, and your team doesn't win immediately, then you're going to have an awesome score. If you're skulk and you go on a lot of distraction missions that are high risk before you get any carapace, your score is going to be a lot poorer.

In conclusion, score != skill .

And to answer your real question (how can a skulk be so skilled), there are a few things:
- Carapace 3
- Only getting into fights you think you can win or at least take down 1 or two marines
- Proper positioning. If you sit on the floor right behind a corner, when you hear the marine coming, you can jump off the floor and into their face right before they get around the corner, giving you all the advantage you need.
- Using sound and vent routes properly to find and kill straying marines

As for the score part:
- Go back and heal often
- Never get in a fight you might die in
- Hide until your team gets 2+ hives
- Don't finish off the enemy if you can, let them live to get a better score

How Do You Go 36 - 4 As A Skulk?

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