Mwip- Ns Rifle

TalShiar · February 2003

<div class="IPBDescription">need help with design</div> ok, ive been working on a design that doesnt come from a movie. its somewhat of a cross between a g36, sg550 and a few bits i thew in. theres a keypad type thing on the left side, the circular thing. the clip is inserted directly below it. i think i got a good start on it but ive run into a brick wall with design for the thing. id like to make the aft section look a bit nicer but ive run outa ideas. Any thoughts would be appreciated. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

ZhadoW · February 2003

me thinks its seksay enuf... say tal werent u modelling in DoD before?

Kusanagi-sama · February 2003

the upper zone l00ks like a g36

Narf · February 2003

looks good, might make a nice HMG replacement (as much as I like the smartgun, I don't like having to find models with custom anims to make sure it doesn't do an acrobatic act on me)

ZeroSaber · February 2003

Holy sh*t Tal, that's awesome! Nice work.

PS: Make it for teh FA G36, too, when it's done <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'>:D

Liku · February 2003

I like it, but what color will it be?

TalShiar · February 2003

ok, i was planning on it being different shades of gray, think m16, and the forementioned g36. the keypad on the side will be colored appropriatly, say a light green (think tv remote control with self illumination) id like to add more details to the receiver. I also dont like the style of the stock, i was thinking of altering it to be more like the t3 phaser rifle stock. and yes i once did models for dod.

Maveric · February 2003

will it be a HMG replacement?

*drools*

Vash · February 2003

Nice...Did you get your "keypad thing" idea from Samus's beam cannon in Metroid Prime? It's a little circular button thing just like that.

ArgOnatH · February 2003

*pukes* <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'>

j/k looks kool but i must say also aint that a sig550 front?!

MCN00b · February 2003

yep, and an sg550 front
the back of a weapon isnt too important imho, since you wont see much of it ingame

TalShiar · February 2003

never played metroid prime :\ i was just trying to make a rifle that actually looked modern.

Kelmo · February 2003

Are those buttons the trigger? And it looks like the barrels are thin, but that might be perspective

zamback · February 2003

nice but looks too much like a g36 with a BAR stock to me <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

blue2k · February 2003

looks nice, but id reduce the size of the sight and make the handle a bit thicker and further back. as it is right now it doesnt look too practical.

Windelkron · February 2003

The rear end of the gun looks cheesy to me. It's too spikey; looks like something you'd find from a 50s space cartoon with ray guns and whatnot <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

Make the scope a cylindrical thingy that hangs off the left side of the G36 rail mount. The part that connects the bottom of the trigger to the stock should be removed, and replaced with something more along the lines of an H&K SL-8.

The rest looks cool; I don't see the point of a keypad over the clip, though. Move the keypad a little back, and then stick a modular attachment on (view the FN F2000 prototype for ideas) <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

That's the news from this lonely fun enthusiast D:

Delarosa · February 2003

top/handle - nice, a bit too tall, but i like the real-life optics that are on there, nice detail to add
Shoulder Brace (butt of the gun) - looks good, maybe another verticie would help to make it rounded...
Barrel/front - again, a little too flat, just a little more rounding would make it sexier.

i like how you encourperated real-life technology and understanding of how a SMG works...makes your model beliveable, sexy, and a smart replacement for a gun in any mod...

what would this replace?

Wolf_Kahler · February 2003

That is -nice-! The rear is like an M16A1, though. Or extended MP5 solid stock.

For a more original [or at least -rare-] style of stock, how about something like <a href='http://gunshop.clandeadgoat.net/shotguns/M90_wannabe/m3s90_1.jpg' target='_blank'>this</a>? Of course, you can make it more functional in accordance with what you've already got modelled. Hell, it might be nice to have a couple pouches on it for extra clips, or such. I like the adjustability. It's just a basis for inspiration, though. Don't do it exactly like that.

The keypad would have some sort of read-out somewhere, where you could see the changes made by pressing the keys? Maybe in the scope? On the side of the scope? Find out how that guy made the functional ammo-counter on his Halo rifle and maybe you can do something similar for the read-out. That would be -so- incredibly sweet and may be cause enough to ditch my pulse rifle! I love it!

Testament · February 2003

It's called a mag! <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'>

Wolf_Kahler · February 2003

I'm sorry, I keep forgetting the difference. Clips are for rifles like the M1 Garand, right? And magazines are refillable?

MCN00b · February 2003

yeah, more or less
only older rifles like the KAR98 use clips afaik
but clips and mags are interchangable slang now, so it doesnt really matter

Jim · February 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (=DD=Wolf Kahler @ Feb 3 2003, 04:17 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Find out how that guy made the functional ammo-counter on his Halo rifle  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
can only be done in firearms I'm afraid, something to do with firearms code for the bullets in the g36 mag or something <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'>

IF YOU READ THIS STRYKERWOLF EXPLAIN PROPERLY <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

Jim · February 2003

woo I still have the pm he replied to me with an explaination <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><i>originally pm'd by strykerwolf</i>
the working counter only works on the Firearms g36 - they had a system in place for the g36 where you could see the bullets in the magazine deplete (since it was supposed to be a clear plastic mag). the trick they used involved having a differant sub-model for each number of bullets. they just switched the skin for the g36, but on the halo rifle, i made actual model changes (the lcd numbers were modeled). pretty simple on my part, just a lot of grunt work getting all the numbers done right.</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>

so now you know <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'>

Wolf_Kahler · February 2003

Well, damn that all to hell.

TalShiar · February 2003

ok, i made a new stock for the gun based off of the sl-8 and i added a flash supressor and connector thing to the barrels. Its still kinda rough, i just did this too see how it would look more than anything else. Tell me what yall think.

LockNLoaded · February 2003

OMG SECKSZ!

i hope u find a good skinner. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

Xanieth · February 2003

That kind of looks impractical for use as an LMG. Please make it an HMG. It's modelled well and I'm sure it will be skinned well, but I just don't like it. Try to shorten the barrel a tad, because this isn't a sniper rifle here. Maybe if you add a front grip to the barrel and something to cool down the barrel it might look better.

Delarosa · February 2003

Sexy, i like the colors (already) but then again, i like grey and black....

it's pimping now, the butt of the gun looks great, and i like the additions/modification the the barrel of the foo...

sexy, i love it i want it it invades my dreams <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

---Edit---

taking a little longer look at thebutt of the gun, do i see a hint of a recoil-less butt? the indented section looks like the last part of the anti-recoil system on the m249 bravo (another sexy mofo)... lookin good...

Wolf_Kahler · February 2003

A little long for being something as weak as a NS LMG, but still very nice. The stock's an improvement, but a little Star Trekky for my own personal tastes. I know my tastes aren't yours, though, so I'm sure it suits you well. Good job, so far. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

blue2k · February 2003

yeah looks star treky, but its a nice design, thing is if you leaned down that weapon to aim, youd rip your eye out on the sight, its still too far back. it should usually be on a continued angle from the handle

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like that

as it is now its almost like this

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catayst · February 2003

I like it so far, but i'd have to agree its a litttttle bit long for the LMG, i'd be tempted to just have the final stage of the barrel attached to the end (excuse my mediocre gun knowledge) and perhaps make the magazine (<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'>) a bit longer and have the bottom edge of it on an angle, that'd look good. my arty side is telling me this nice sharp-flat-edge (i love that loook <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>) doesnt go well with the rounded keypad... have you tried different keypad designs?

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