Nano-technology In Not So Far Future?

BonelessBoneless Join Date: 2002-09-03 Member: 1270Members
<div class="IPBDescription">It isn't sci-fi!</div> Some terms about nano-tech described in the NS Manual seems pure fiction for plain ppl, but no!:

<a href='http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/01/19/1042911268269.html' target='_blank'>http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/01/...2911268269.html</a>

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  • LucidLucid Join Date: 2002-12-11 Member: 10534Members, Constellation
    ahhhhh copyright infringment!!!

    <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo--> scientists!!!


    no really though thats interesting stuff
  • uranium_235uranium_235 Join Date: 2002-11-20 Member: 9478Banned
    They've been working on nanotech for a long time... right now the most common application is NanoPants which repels liquids by nanometer-sized fibers.
  • tseepratseepra Join Date: 2002-12-11 Member: 10530Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--NoImagination+Jan 21 2003, 08:56 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (NoImagination @ Jan 21 2003, 08:56 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Carbon fibers would be a lot stronger than steel, and NASA is considering using them for the cable in an elevator to the moon (yes, it's a serious project), which is not possible using kevlar fiber (well, unless you want a cable with a radius of a few kilometers).<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Ummm.. I was sure that the moon revolved around the earth, right? Wouldn't the cord wrap around they earth?
  • Nemesis_ZeroNemesis_Zero Old European Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 75Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    <span style='color:gray'>***Moved.***</span>

    Jeff Paris, our writer, is a pretty big science nut. Guess it pays off <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • GuardianGuardian Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2335Members
    Cable to a space station in geo-synchrounous orbit, not the moon. And its true, it is a serious theory/project.
  • FlatlineUTDFlatlineUTD Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7695Members
    We've got a *huge* nanotech lab here at my school - I think it's the largest one in the US. The government is funding the entire thing.
  • GuardianGuardian Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2335Members
    Its all good till we get the Grey Goo(p?) scenario <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->

    Grey Goo Scenario = self replicating nano machines that never stop replicating. Eventually all matter will be absorbed. The planet and possibly the universe = pwned.
  • OnumaOnuma Join Date: 2003-01-18 Member: 12428Members
    Just wait 'til they have nano-robots that would repair your wounds and stuff.

    Hemophiliacs would not have to worry about bleeding. Body-builders would not have to worry about recovery time. Car accidents would be much less fatal. Wars might not require medics and a soldier blinded by shrapnel might one day gain his sight back.

    You get the idea. It's some complicated technology but I'm sure there is a HUGE market for it in years to come. I would not be surprised if in our lifetimes we saw stuff like this.
  • AllUrHiveRblong2usAllUrHiveRblong2us By Your Powers Combined... Join Date: 2002-12-20 Member: 11244Members
    There was an article in this month's wired about those nanotube thingies. It's cool stuff, but I wouldn't start looking for nano-machines to come around until they invent the single-molecule transistor.(unless they already have, I'm not exactly up-to-date with this stuff.)
  • Mr_HeadcrabMr_Headcrab Squee&#33;~ Join Date: 2002-11-20 Member: 9392Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--Flatline[UTD]+Jan 21 2003, 05:48 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Flatline[UTD] @ Jan 21 2003, 05:48 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->We've got a *huge* nanotech lab here at my school - I think it's the largest one in the US. The government is funding the entire thing.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    !!!!


    pay you five bucks to smuggle out a dixie cup of them then mail em to me.....


    .. I shall make them do my bidding--- erm, laundry



    MUWAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHHA ect
  • SaltySalty Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 6970Members
    I was thinking about the grey goop seneraio thing for a while. Kinda like cancer sept gets everybody <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->

    I heard they made a noano tube gear less then the size of a hair strand.

    I also read somewhere that the problem in production is the consitency in the width of nano tubes or something like that.
  • LegionnairedLegionnaired Join Date: 2002-04-30 Member: 552Members, Constellation
    For an enjoyable book about Nano-tech, check out Prey by Michael Chriton(sp). It's great until the end, when it gets a little disapointing.
  • Nemesis_ZeroNemesis_Zero Old European Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 75Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--Guardian+Jan 21 2003, 10:54 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Guardian @ Jan 21 2003, 10:54 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Its all good till we get the Grey Goo(p?) scenario <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->

    Grey Goo Scenario = self replicating nano machines that never stop replicating. Eventually all matter will be absorbed. The planet and possibly the universe = pwned.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    ... And in comes the Chaos Theory to save the day <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->

    Nanotech is, together with genetic engeneering, the change-all of our generation. I'm absolutely sure it'll change the world we live in as fundamentally as electricity. There will be risks - there are always risks - but that doesn't mean we shouldn't try it.
  • NumbersNotFoundNumbersNotFound Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7556Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--uranium - 235+Jan 21 2003, 01:11 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (uranium - 235 @ Jan 21 2003, 01:11 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->They've been working on nanotech for a long time... right now the most common application is NanoPants which repels liquids by nanometer-sized fibers.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    "Hey baby, wanna go back to my place? I got nano pants!"

    hahaha
  • FlatlineUTDFlatlineUTD Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7695Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Mr. Headcrab+Jan 21 2003, 12:43 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Mr. Headcrab @ Jan 21 2003, 12:43 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin--Flatline[UTD]+Jan 21 2003, 05:48 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Flatline[UTD] @ Jan 21 2003, 05:48 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->We've got a *huge* nanotech lab here at my school - I think it's the largest one in the US.  The government is funding the entire thing.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    !!!!


    pay you five bucks to smuggle out a dixie cup of them then mail em to me.....


    .. I shall make them do my bidding--- erm, laundry



    MUWAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHHA ect<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Umm... yeah. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • SaltySalty Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 6970Members
    Considering i drop a video card on carpet and the thing fries instantly i dont think nano tech is gonna be that easy to use though. I imagine if you get that small its gotta be pretty static sensitive. I just wonder if you have to have your own personal clean room. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • tiriontirion Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 3212Members
    Hey

    I work in this field. At least on the nano-electronics side. The problem is, the word 'nano-tech' is used to describe half a dozen different technologies. The main focus of nano-electronics is quantum computing, simply because it's where all the money is. Things are improving though, and at the moment quantum dots and carbon nanotubes are head to head in terms of being a feasible implementation. Still, there are allot of problems which need solving. At the moment, such solid-state implementations only seem to consist of a handful of qubits, operating at mk temperatures (very close to absolute zero). As far as I know, noone has successfully performed any of the famous QC algorithms with such a solid-state system. Plus, there is /no/ way these systems would ever work at anything approaching room temperature.
    Though, HP laps in the UK are having great success with quantum cryptography.

    As for little robots et al (I just read the Crichton book... yes the ending is terrible), who knows? The field most academics are interested involves quantum coherence, and transport, et al.. so things like actual implementation of nano-scale fabrication techniques to effectively macroscopic technologies are only done by companies, who don't tell you anything!

    Tirion
    Bug Stompers: We Endanger Species.
  • FlatlineUTDFlatlineUTD Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7695Members
    edited January 2003
    Well speak of the devil!

    Look what I came across this morning:

    <a href='http://utdallas.edu/utdgeneral/news/nanoborder.html' target='_blank'>http://utdallas.edu/utdgeneral/news/nanoborder.html</a>

    The facility I mentioned in my previous post is also mentioned in the article:

    <i>UTD became involved in nanotechnology in a big way some 18 months ago, when it hired two renowned experts from Honeywell International, Drs. Ray Baughman and Anvar Zakhidov, and established the UTD NanoTech Institute. Since then, the university has become a hotbed for the cutting-edge science, forging cooperative research agreements with Jilin University in China and the National Research Council and the University of Alberta in Canada.

    Last August, UTD's reputation as a leader in nanotechnology research was boosted further when Nobel laureate Dr. Alan MacDiarmid joined the university's faculty. MacDiarmid, who shared the 2000 Nobel Prize in chemistry, has pioneered research in the field of nanoelectronics in recent years.</i>
  • NarfwakNarfwak Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5258Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS1 Playtester, Playtest Lead, Forum Moderators, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Supporter, Reinforced - Silver, Reinforced - Gold, Reinforced - Diamond, Reinforced - Shadow, Subnautica PT Lead, NS2 Community Developer
    Nanotech is both really cool and really creepy, when you think of its potential. Then again, I played too much Deus Ex, so maybe I'm just a crackpot conspiracy theorist.
  • LegionnairedLegionnaired Join Date: 2002-04-30 Member: 552Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--Narfwak+Jan 23 2003, 06:38 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Narfwak @ Jan 23 2003, 06:38 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Nanotech is both really cool and really creepy, when you think of its potential. Then again, I played too much Deus Ex, so maybe I'm just a crackpot conspiracy theorist.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    There's already mind-control substance in your water, why would they need nano-tech?

    hehe.
  • FlatlineUTDFlatlineUTD Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7695Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Narfwak+Jan 23 2003, 06:38 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Narfwak @ Jan 23 2003, 06:38 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Nanotech is both really cool and really creepy, when you think of its potential. Then again, I played too much Deus Ex, so maybe I'm just a crackpot conspiracy theorist.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Too much? Deus Ex? Not possible.

    And my whole deal about "only having time to play one game at a time?" That will go out the window when DX2 is released. I will MAKE TIME for that. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • Dirty_Harry_PotterDirty_Harry_Potter Join Date: 2002-11-21 Member: 9500Members
    edited January 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->That will go out the window when DX2 is released<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->too bad its only released for PS2 - why is all the good games only released to consoles.
  • Nemesis_ZeroNemesis_Zero Old European Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 75Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    DX2 is being developed for the PC. A PS2 port is possible, just as DX1 got converted, but whoever told you it'd be exclusive deserves a nice smack.
  • Dirty_Harry_PotterDirty_Harry_Potter Join Date: 2002-11-21 Member: 9500Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->DX2 is being developed for the PC. A PS2 port is possible, just as DX1 got converted, but whoever told you it'd be exclusive deserves a nice smack. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    you have restored some of my faith to the game devs around the world <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->(began to be paranoid about the future of the games on the PC), and noone told me, just though it was that way 'cos i only found a PS2 preview article on fileplanet....
  • CForresterCForrester P0rk(h0p Join Date: 2002-10-05 Member: 1439Members, Constellation
    The future with games on PC can only get better, and the future with consoles are a little iffy. PCs are much easier to build than consoles are, and the best part is that you can upgrade a PC. Also, if you fry your keyboard, it's $10 to replace it. If you fry a PS2 controller, it's $30-$40 to replace it. And the mouse owns you all! Muahahhaa.... *cough*
  • RenegadeRenegade Old school Join Date: 2002-03-29 Member: 361Members
    The most likely application for nano-tech besides medicine would probably be adaptive camoflauge.
  • NarfwakNarfwak Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5258Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS1 Playtester, Playtest Lead, Forum Moderators, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Supporter, Reinforced - Silver, Reinforced - Gold, Reinforced - Diamond, Reinforced - Shadow, Subnautica PT Lead, NS2 Community Developer
    <!--QuoteBegin--Nemesis Zero+Jan 24 2003, 02:25 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nemesis Zero @ Jan 24 2003, 02:25 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->DX2 is being developed for the PC. A PS2 port is possible, just as DX1 got converted, but whoever told you it'd be exclusive deserves a nice smack.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    PCGamer said that DX2 would be on consoles in addition to the PC, and for that reason some of the interface and options are being simplified. Still, the sequel to my favorite single player game of all time would really have to do some extra work to suck, IMHO
  • LegionnairedLegionnaired Join Date: 2002-04-30 Member: 552Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--Renegade+Jan 25 2003, 03:36 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Renegade @ Jan 25 2003, 03:36 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->The most likely application for nano-tech besides medicine would probably be adaptive camoflauge.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Or micro processors as fast a next-gen AMD Clawhammer, the size of a pin, you know, that works too.

    And even then, there's still thousands of things that you could do with nanotech. For instance, get a cloud of this stuff to form above a battlefeild. It floats, and forms an eye, to watch over the battle. Good luck trying to shoot it down.

    Or, body armor! Vest assembled that's as light as cotton, but can stop a 12 MM round dead! Add in some plates for a crumplinge ffect when the slug strikes it so the force of the shell doesn't liquify the user's organs, and you're alright...

    Or, Surfaces that are assembled on the microscopic level, so there's less surface area from ridges, so there's less rusting and such...

    Things like that.
  • AllUrHiveRblong2usAllUrHiveRblong2us By Your Powers Combined... Join Date: 2002-12-20 Member: 11244Members
    Looks like war is gonna turn into crush (I mean more than now) by the guys who have the tech in teh future.
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