Battle Of The Bugs!

FadeRavenFadeRaven Join Date: 2002-11-06 Member: 7436Members
<div class="IPBDescription">Fade vs. Hydralisk-- who would win?</div> What two main things do Starcraft and Natural Selection have in common? Well, for starters, dumb marines! (Ba-dum... pishhh!) But seriously they both have claw-scythe armed, acidshooting shock troops. Specifically, the Fades and the Hydralisks. Supposing a fade blinked too hard, or a hyrdalisk burrowed a little to far- who would win in mortal combat?
My money's on the Fade. They're evenly matched as far as claw attacks go, but fades shoot acid <i>rockets</i>. Hydralisks just shoot acid spines. No splash damage in case ya miss. Fades can teleport in circles around the hydralisk, but only for so long, compared to the Hydralisks unlimited energy supply. Fades can cloak, Hydralisks can burrow, that's a tie. It all comes down to Bilebombs... Acid <b>Mortars</b> people! Massive splash damage in the form of a corrosive liquid.
What are your thoughts? Who would win- Skulk or Zergling? Lerk or Mutalisk? Gorge or Drone? Let's see some interesting matchups here! DING! DING! DING! <!--emo&::skulk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='skulk.gif'><!--endemo-->

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  • Elite_GuardElite_Guard Join Date: 2002-11-29 Member: 10258Members
    Ultralisk will whoop Onos!
  • AlignAlign Remain Calm Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5216Forum Moderators, Constellation
    edited January 2003
    Don't forget that all NS aliens have infinite range! And what environment, 2D StarCraft or 3D?(even if 3D= large fields)
    No, Ultralisk wouldn't whoop Onos, if the onos uses paralyse and freezes the Ultralisk in its tracks.
    Skulk do so much damage per bite that they would probably win vs the Zergling, Lerk would loose vs a Mutalisk though, since the glaives of the Mutalisks aren't bullets, rendering umbra useless, and the Lerk very weak... and don't forget that the projectiles are homing in SC!
    Gorge would win due to ranged attack...
  • Y3tiY3ti Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7853Members
    Yes but Hyddralisk can evole into the leel 6 super alien, lerkers.

    and yes a ultralisk would whipe the floor with a onos...

    but Ns isn't based of Starcraft... (ROFL! AHAHHAHAAHHAAH)
  • CBD-IkariyaCBD-Ikariya Join Date: 2003-01-05 Member: 11841Members
    But then, look at all the heavy carapace on the hydralisk. Plus, splash damage doesn't matter since Starcraft units never miss <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->. I think the hydra would win since it has heavy armor and those sharp spines would pierce the soft mossy flesh of the fade.

    Zergling wins since you get 2 at a time <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->

    Mutalisk wins since it's bigger, and has those wicked bouncy spores

    Gorge would easily win, both in the looks/coolness/ and effectiveness factor.
  • TzarconTzarcon Join Date: 2002-02-28 Member: 259Members
    First, lets make sure the matchups are even here....

    2 Zerglings - Skulk (Zerglings come in pairs, always)
    Drone - Gorge
    Mutalisk - Lurk
    Hydralisk - Fade
    Ultralisk - Onos

    The zerglings and Skulk are quite well rounded... But its quite an even match! But, a single zergling only does 12% damage on a Starcraft marine, whereas the skulk does 30% damage! The zerglings strength is increased to 24% because theres 2, but the skulk is still %6 ahead! Plus, the skulk can wallclimb! The zerglings can burrow, but the skulk can cloak. Seeing how skulk has a %6 lead and the ability to wallclimb, Skulk wins

    Although Drones and Gorges are both meant for building, the Gorge has a higher health (I'm not sure about the percentage). Also, the Drones range is limited, but the Gorge's is not. Plus, the gorge has the ability to web the silly drones, and create Babblers. The Drone can burrow, but Gorge can cloak. So, a webbed Drone against a Gorge and 3 Babblers, Gorge wins

    Now we have the mutalisk against lurk. The mutalisk is far bigger, and has more health (I think). The mutalisk is ahead, shooting acid spores at poor lurk, and they ricochet and hit 2 other kharaa! Meanwhile, little lurk is stuck shooting little acid spines, insignificant! But, now whats this! Lurk seems to create an umbra around mutalisk, hurting him severly and acting as a shield against mutalisk's acid spores! Then with the finish, Lurk fires a rapid attack of spikes and sneaks around Mutalisk for a powerful bite attack! Lurk seems to be the winner of this match!
    But Mutalisk isn't done yet, he suddenly evolves! This new creature seems to have more powerful armour... And its shooting giant purple balls! But Lurk has something up his sleeves too, He suddenly disappears! He seems to be using his cloak power. This match is possibly the most even yet, and we have yet to decide who the winner is.

    In arena number 4, Hydralisk vs Fade! The match starts off, Fade and hydralisk begin firing acid spikes and rockets at each other! The Hydralisk tries to dodge the rockets, but the splash damage gets him each time! And unfortunatly for Fade, the spikes are homing! They both hurt each other severly! All of a sudden fade leaps into the air and begins slashing at Hydralisk, who slashes back! An enormous fight starts, then... What?! Fade just vanished in a puff of purple cloud and he's... He's behind Hydralisk! He begins slashing at Hydralisks back, but Hydralisk has a suprise of his own... He burrows! He quickly vanishes into the ground, covering up his hole as he goes. Fade is confused, looking around, wondering where Hydralisk went... All of a sudden Hydra pops right back up and begins slashing at Fade! This match seems to be perfectly even!
    But then the worst thing of all hapens to Fade... Hydralisk quickly evolves into a new predator... The Lurker! This devasting creature quickly burrows, dispites Fade's attempts to hit it, and begins sending subterranian spikes towards Fade! Fade can't do anything but dodge them, for the Lurkers superior hearing can always tell where fade is. It seems that Lurker is the winner here.

    And the last match of all, the one many of you have been waiting for. The Ultralisk against the Onos. It starts off, two fast gargantuas charging towards each other. The Onos starts it off with an incredible charge attack, hurting the Ultralisk severly. But Ultralisk isnt dead yet, it's high health comes in handy! It starts slashing wildly at Onos, and Onos is hurt bad! The Onos retreats back a few steps to get ready for another charge, and Ultralisk isn't done yet! Ultralisk runs towards Onos to finish him off, but suddenly Onos cloaks! Ultralisk has no idea where Onos went, when all of a sudden Onos charges out of nowhere towards Ultralisk and finishes him! Onos wins.

    so, the standings...

    2 Zerglings - Skulk: Skulk wins
    Drone - Gorge: Gorge wins
    Mutalisk - Lurk: Lurk wins
    Evolved Mutalisk - Lurk: Evolved Mutalisk wins (I can't remember the name)
    Hydralisk - Fade: Perfectly Even
    Lurker - Fade: Lurker wins
    Ultralisk - Onos: Onos wins

    Kharaa: 4
    Zerg: 2

    Note that the Kharaa are also made to be better fighters with less numbers, but the Zerg are made for domination through superior numbers and gigantic armies
  • GeronimoGeronimo Join Date: 2002-12-18 Member: 11056Members
    I am sure that gorge would win...

    He can web all melees...and noon(except maybe for guardians) have range enough to fire at him if he webs around him...

    he can also heal VERY fast from 3 DCs standig behind a WallofLame...the wall is as effective as 6 sunkens+6 sporecolonies...

    Having good carpace and cloaking he can endure the ots fiersome battles and his adrenaline allows him tocreate alot more babbler than the queen can make broodlings...
  • Nemesis_ZeroNemesis_Zero Old European Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 75Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    I think I've got to correct Tzar in some cases:


    You didn't mention the Sporecloud for the Lerk - which would quite possibly end the fight before the evolution even started.


    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->for the Lurkers superior hearing can always tell where fade is.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Give the Fade lvl3 silence and cloaking, and the Lurkers advantage dwindles.


    Also, thanks to his 'paralyze' ability, I think it's quite possible that the Onos could even overcome the Ultralisk with only slight damage.
    Maybe a pairing against a Torresque would be fairer.
  • Sh0tSh0t Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 3882Members
    The starcraft ones win by default because they have Kerrigan to fight for.
  • MastodonMastodon Old Fogie Join Date: 2003-01-09 Member: 12052Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--Y3ti+Jan 13 2003, 01:33 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Y3ti @ Jan 13 2003, 01:33 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->but Ns isn't based of Starcraft... (ROFL! AHAHHAHAAHHAAH)<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    lol. that was actually part of the appeal when I started playing NS. I thought, <i>dude! It's like Starcraft...but I'm doing the killing!</i> But let me put things this way:

    <!--emo&::skulk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='skulk.gif'><!--endemo--> < <!--emo&::gorge::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/pudgy.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='pudgy.gif'><!--endemo-->

    <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo--> > <!--emo&::onos::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='tiny.gif'><!--endemo-->

    <!--emo&::siege::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/siege.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='siege.gif'><!--endemo--> > <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='wow.gif'><!--endemo-->

    <b>pwnz0r!</b>
  • AUScorpionAUScorpion Join Date: 2003-01-05 Member: 11842Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Nemesis Zero+Jan 13 2003, 03:17 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nemesis Zero @ Jan 13 2003, 03:17 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Maybe a pairing against a Torresque would be fairer.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Ya kiddin right?

    The Tarrasque can only be killed by knocking it to -30 and using a wish or miracle spell to keep it dead......not to mention it can swallow 2 onos' whole.

    There is a definite reason why only ONE exists in D&D. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • RevenReven Join Date: 2002-11-11 Member: 8202Members
    Scorp hes on about the Torresque in starcraft. is a hero version of the zerg Ultralisk.
  • AUScorpionAUScorpion Join Date: 2003-01-05 Member: 11842Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Reven+Jan 13 2003, 10:18 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Reven @ Jan 13 2003, 10:18 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Scorp hes on about the Torresque in starcraft. is a hero version of the zerg Ultralisk.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    lol, I could not care less. I'm not jumping the gun or yelling at anyone, just having fun.
  • RevenReven Join Date: 2002-11-11 Member: 8202Members
    soz i did sound a little mean. my mistake. i just thought you aught to know so you dont get all these startcraft players shouting <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • FooshieFooshie Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2820Members
    edited January 2003
    well, i do not remeamber one time in SC were my hydralisk missed his attack. and the hydralisk can shoot out constant spines with only a small cooldown between attacks. fades have energy.

    sc >all

    edit; and the scourage is the lerks counterpart! not mutalisk.
  • BlueGhostBlueGhost Join Date: 2002-11-30 Member: 10337Members
    NS aliens would all win against SC aliens, just look at the relativve sizees, the mightiest ultralisc would be squished underfoot by a skulk.

    BlueGhost
  • UrzaUrza Join Date: 2002-12-24 Member: 11514Members
    Gorge will win even against an ultralisk, because he is the webking <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
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