[Linux] b262 doesn't start

abelthorne · October 2013

When I saw that b258 was released, I thought I'd give it a try to see if the black screen issue (locale problem with LUA scripts) was finally fixed. Problem is that now I get only graphic corruption when launching the game (which doesn't seem to do anything at all, BTW, as I don't hear any sounds; I don't think it gets to the menu and just stays stuck).

As I recently updated my graphic drivers for AMD 13.11 beta, the problem might come from them. So before I start experimenting with multiple drivers, has anybody encountered the same issue on Linux with b258?

EDIT : post updated after b262

Ironsoul · October 2013

oh gosh, amd on linux. Good luck with that!

Confused · October 2013

@Abelthorne is there anything the log? (~/.config/Natural Selection2/log.txt)

any errors?

Max · October 2013

Can you post your log file? You'll find it in ~/.config/Natural Selection 2/log.txt

abelthorne · October 2013

Well, I checked the logfile but I'm not sure it's really relevant. Here it is:

Date: 10/15/13
Time: 13:03:52:
--------------------------------------------------------------
Build 258
Ubuntu 13.04 x86_64
Steam initialized
Num displays: 1
OpenGL 4.3.12458 Compatibility Profile Context 9.012 initialized (ATI Technologies Inc. AMD Radeon HD 7700 Series)
GLSL version 4.30
ARB_texture_storage extension present
Sound Device: default stereo
Record Device: default
Loading config://ConsoleBindings.json
Loading config://FavoriteServers.json
Loading config://HistoryServers.json
Compiling 'shaders/Model_emissive.surface_shader'

Maybe it's just compiling shaders for a while and I should wait? But it didn't work that way before (it launched to the menu and only when trying to start a game it would compile shaders) and there's no hard disk access when I decide to kill the process, it just seems to be stuck.

Confused · October 2013

good deal, can you do me a favor and delete ~/.config/Natural Selection 2/cache and see if that fixes things?

abelthorne · October 2013

Still the same but I've let it run longer and the log.txt says that:

Date: 10/15/13
Time: 21:23:57:
--------------------------------------------------------------
Build 258
Ubuntu 13.04 x86_64
Steam initialized
Num displays: 1
OpenGL 4.3.12458 Compatibility Profile Context 9.012 initialized (ATI Technologies Inc. AMD Radeon HD 7700 Series)
GLSL version 4.30
ARB_texture_storage extension present
Compiling 'renderer/Drawer.shader'
Sound Device: default stereo
Record Device: default
Compiling 'renderer/DeferredShading.shader'
Compiling 'renderer/DeferredShading.shader'
Compiling 'renderer/LightVolume.shader'
Compiling 'shaders/GUIBasic.surface_shader'

And it eats up CPU (184 % of CPU usage, i.e. one full core and a big part of the second).

So it looks like that it's really compiling stuff but I'm not sure it's normal that I get only a black screen during that. If it's normal, it's not very user-friendly.

I'll try to delete a few more things (options file and such) and let it run longer to see if it works better.

abelthorne · October 2013

I've deleted the whole NS2 directory in .config and started the game again. Same black screen. Let it run for 20 minutes with no change. The log file is the same, except that it's stucked at the first "Compiling 'renderer/DeferredShading.shader'"...

Should I try older graphic drivers (like 13.4 stable rather that 13.11 beta)?

JCD · October 2013

On a related note I had the same starting it on windows.
It was fixed by deleting the cache+workshop folder.
I don't know if that helps you guys on linux tho.

Zaggy · October 2013

I'm currently running it fine with 13.8.

abelthorne · October 2013

JCD wrote: »

On a related note I had the same starting it on windows.
It was fixed by deleting the cache+workshop folder.
I don't know if that helps you guys on linux tho.

The cache didn't help. Where is the workshop dir? Somewhere in the Steam one?

Zaggy wrote:

I'm currently running it fine with 13.8.

I think that 13.8 has had a few betas and would be quite stable in the end (I was surprised that it wasn't updated to the lastest stable release last time I checked). The 13.11 is in its first beta so I guess it's more likely to have new bugs. I'd prefer to stay with it, though, as I seem to have better performances in games.

JCD · October 2013

Both were in the Appdata folder, but I don't know the equivalent for Linux.

abelthorne · October 2013

If that's where the game stores its config files, that would be "~/.config/Natural Selection 2", where I already deleted the cache but have not workshop dir (if it's used for downloaded mods, I have never used the workshop, so that may be why I don't have the dir).

JCD · October 2013

Everytime you join a server that has mods it downloads them to a workshop folder even if you haven't subscribed to the mods yourself.

abelthorne · October 2013

Well, all I know is that I don't have a workshop dir in NS2's config dir.

On Linux, i haven't been able to play NS2 yet because of the issues I encounter, never joined a server or really started a game (the farthest I've been is the lobby room of the training mode).

chrix · October 2013

Same here with catalyst 13.11 beta 1 with a HD 7970M.

cat ~/.config/Natural\ Selection\ 2/log.txt
Date: 10/17/13
Time: 23:00:45:
--------------------------------------------------------------
Build 258
Arch Linux x86_64
[S_API WARN] Overlay does not appear to be loaded into game, but SetNotificationPosition is being called
Steam initialized
Num displays: 2
OpenGL 4.3.12458 Compatibility Profile Context 13.20.16 initialized (ATI Technologies Inc. AMD Radeon HD 7970M)
GLSL version 4.30
ARB_texture_storage extension present
Sound Device: Default Output Device stereo
Record Device: Default Input Device
Compiling 'renderer/DeferredShading.shader'

... and it hangs there at 100% CPU usage.
If I start it with strace, the last line is

futex(0xf3be664c, FUTEX_WAIT_PRIVATE, 0, NULL

So it's pretty clear that it really is stuck on something.

abelthorne · October 2013

As a sidenote, I upgraded to Ubuntu 13.10 yesterday and tried NS2 with the driver from the Ubuntu repos (I think the fglrx-updates driver was version 13.1). It crashed immediately at startup with a segfault. Not sure if the driver is buggy or if the problem comes from NS2 b258.

I couldn't install the 13.4 for whatever reason (got a dkms-related error when trying) so I reinstalled 13.11 beta and am now back to the beginning of this thread.

Confused · October 2013

Can you try using a modified version of the script in this post to run ns2 and then posting the back trace on trh crash.

You are going to have to remove the primusrun stuff.

Was planning to try 13.10 soon but have been doing some major data schlepping so i have not had the chance to uninstall and reinstall.

chrix · October 2013

By the way, I have the problem on archlinux so it probably doesn't have anything to do with ubuntu and more with catalyst 13.11.

chrix · October 2013

You are aware that the whole radeon r* generation has to use he 13.11 beta driver, right?

abelthorne · October 2013

I've updated the title as I've tested b259. There's a slight change (I now get a "loading" screen rather than black or corrupt display) but NS2 is still stuck at start.

I have yet to try the newest Catalyst beta (13.11 beta 6 instead of 13.11 beta 1) to check if the bug is fixed on AMD's side.

IronHorse · November 2013

Well definitely try the newest driver and let us know, with a backtrace if possible.

abelthorne · November 2013

Tried 13.11b6. Back to previous step: garbage graphics when launching the game and it's stuck (the garbage/black screen/loading screen might be random). How do I get a backtrace?

Asraniel · November 2013

is it crashed or stuck? do you have an amd graphics card?

abelthorne · November 2013

Yup, stuck (see above): the game doesn't do anything, it only displays a black or garbaged screen (the loading screen happened once, with b259 and Catalyst 13.11b1). Log file is pretty useless.

AMD RadeonHD 7770.

IronHorse · November 2013

http://wiki.unknownworlds.com/ns2/Linux_Guide#Getting_Backtraces

chrix · November 2013

Well, backtrace... It's just hanging there.

In gdb you can just press ctrl+c and then get a backtrace of where it currently is.

glXGetCurrentContext () in the catalyst driver seems to be causing the hang...?

No debug symbols in libGL from fglrx though...

#0  0xf7fdb430 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
#1  0xf417059a in pthread_rwlock_wrlock () from /usr/lib32/libpthread.so.0
#2  0xf43b0c71 in glXGetCurrentContext () from /usr/lib32/catalystpxp/fglrx/libGL.so.1
#3  0x0850b570 in ?? ()
#4  0xf79eb4eb in M4::OpenGLIndexBuffer::CreateInternal (this=0xd3ea7ff0, numBytes=6000, dynamic=false) at ../Source/Render/OpenGLIndexBuffer.cpp:165
#5  0xf79eb5ac in M4::OpenGLIndexBuffer::CreateCommand::Execute (data=0xe32347e8) at ../Source/Render/OpenGLIndexBuffer.cpp:151
#6  0xf79d6db8 in M4::CommandBuffer::ExecuteCommands (this=0xea3ae470) at ../Source/Render/CommandBuffer.cpp:91
#7  0xf79e8608 in M4::OpenGLDevice::BeginRendering (this=0xea3ae0b8) at ../Source/Render/OpenGLDevice.cpp:476
#8  0x0807803a in M4::ClientGame::Update (this=0xea310008, deltaTime=1.3443336269999999) at ../Source/Spark_Client/ClientGame.cpp:892
#9  0x0806be56 in M4::ClientEngine::Update (this=0xf7fd5170, deltaTime=1.3443336269999999) at ../Source/Spark_Client/ClientEngine.cpp:152
#10 0x080bf814 in M4::BaseEngine::RunFrame (this=0xf7fd5170) at ../Source/Spark_Server/BaseEngine.cpp:196
#11 0x080bf840 in M4::BaseEngine::Run (this=0xf7fd5170) at ../Source/Spark_Server/BaseEngine.cpp:160
#12 0x0806a273 in main (argc=<error reading variable: Cannot access memory at address 0x80>, argv=<error reading variable: Cannot access memory at address 0x84>) at ../Source/ShooterExe/Main.cpp:82

Full backtrace:

#0  0xf7fdb430 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
No symbol table info available.
#1  0xf417059a in pthread_rwlock_wrlock () from /usr/lib32/libpthread.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#2  0xf43b0c71 in glXGetCurrentContext () from /usr/lib32/catalystpxp/fglrx/libGL.so.1
No symbol table info available.
#3  0x0850b570 in ?? ()
No symbol table info available.
#4  0xf79eb4eb in M4::OpenGLIndexBuffer::CreateInternal (this=0xd3ea7ff0, numBytes=6000, dynamic=false) at ../Source/Render/OpenGLIndexBuffer.cpp:165
        indexBuffer = -484227084
#5  0xf79eb5ac in M4::OpenGLIndexBuffer::CreateCommand::Execute (data=0xe32347e8) at ../Source/Render/OpenGLIndexBuffer.cpp:151
        command = 0xe32347e8
#6  0xf79d6db8 in M4::CommandBuffer::ExecuteCommands (this=0xea3ae470) at ../Source/Render/CommandBuffer.cpp:91
        entry = 0xe32347f4
#7  0xf79e8608 in M4::OpenGLDevice::BeginRendering (this=0xea3ae0b8) at ../Source/Render/OpenGLDevice.cpp:476
        lock = {<M4::Uncopyable> = {<No data fields>}, m_criticalSection = @0xea3ae448}
#8  0x0807803a in M4::ClientGame::Update (this=0xea310008, deltaTime=1.3443336269999999) at ../Source/Spark_Client/ClientGame.cpp:892
        renderStatus = M4::RenderStatus_Ready
        updateWorldJob = {<M4::Job> = {_vptr.Job = 0xffffc6e8, m_doneEvent = warning: can't find linker symbol for virtual table for `M4::Event' value
warning:   found `MessageLoop::RunAllPending()' instead
{_vptr.Event = 0xf4ab488f <MessageLoop::RunAllPending()+61>, 
              m_impl = "\000\335K\b\005\000\000\000\000\000\000\000`\000\027\364<\307\377\377\274\317\377\367\370\330\377\367\240\357\026\364\060\307\377\377\342\243\376\367\260\332\377\367`\000\027\364\001\000\000\000\005\000\000\000\331\355\026\364\030\033\215\367\030\033\215\367\204\307\377\377\030\033\215", <incomplete sequence \367>}}, m_world = 0xf7453d80 <M4::Event::SetSignaled()+64>, m_connected = 156, m_xSize = 0, m_ySize = 1, m_hasFocus = false, m_visible = false, m_mouseCaptured = false, 
          m_accumulatedDeltaTime = -nan(0xfc780f78d1b18), m_endTime = -3.4406860929522249e+266}
        updateInterval = -inf
        updateResult = true
#9  0x0806be56 in M4::ClientEngine::Update (this=0xf7fd5170, deltaTime=1.3443336269999999) at ../Source/Spark_Client/ClientEngine.cpp:152
        serverGame = 0x0
        serverUpdateJob = {<M4::Job> = {_vptr.Job = 0x81f5208 <vtable for M4::ServerUpdateJob+8>, m_doneEvent = {_vptr.Event = 0xf78d1490 <vtable for M4::Event+8>, m_impl = '\000' <repeats 68 times>, "\b\330'\b\001\275`\025"}}, m_serverGame = 0x0, 
          m_deltaTime = 1.3443336269999999, m_waitForPackets = false, m_result = 200}
        disconnect = false
#10 0x080bf814 in M4::BaseEngine::RunFrame (this=0xf7fd5170) at ../Source/Spark_Server/BaseEngine.cpp:196
        result = true
        deltaTime = <optimized out>
#11 0x080bf840 in M4::BaseEngine::Run (this=0xf7fd5170) at ../Source/Spark_Server/BaseEngine.cpp:160
No locals.
#12 0x0806a273 in main (argc=<error reading variable: Cannot access memory at address 0x80>, argv=<error reading variable: Cannot access memory at address 0x84>) at ../Source/ShooterExe/Main.cpp:82
        allocator = 0xf78e91d4 <M4::(anonymous namespace)::_allocatorsBuffer+20>
        logLocation = {static npos = <optimized out>, _M_dataplus = {<std::allocator<char>> = {<__gnu_cxx::new_allocator<char>> = {<No data fields>}, <No data fields>}, _M_p = 0x834be0c "/home/chris/.config/Natural Selection 2"}}
        engine = 0xf7fd5170
        parser = 0xf7fd6200
        verbose = <optimized out>
        serverOnly = false

drone12 · November 2013

Just bought the game (since I just noticed you had a linux flag up and running), game just hangs after clicking 'play' in steam, this is the log I get

Date: 11/03/13
Time: 18:27:25:
Build 259
Ubuntu 13.10 x86_64
Steam initialized
Num displays: 2
OpenGL 4.3.12614 Compatibility Profile Context 13.25.18 initialized (ATI Technologies Inc. AMD Radeon HD 7800 Series)
GLSL version 4.30
ARB_texture_storage extension present
Compiling 'renderer/Drawer.shader'
Sound Device: default stereo
Record Device: default
Compiling 'renderer/DeferredShading.shader'

Sidenote - xubuntu, dual monitor setup, 13.11 beta 6 drivers.

KatanaSwordfish · November 2013

It seems like I might be having the same issue: NS2 flashes a black screen for a second before crashing on startup, in Ubuntu (Xubuntu, really) 64bit 13.10.

Here's what I'm using:
Xubuntu 13.10 64bit.
AMD HD7770 with 13.10 drivers (fglrx-updates in driver manager)..
Intel i7, 6gb RAM, SSD..

It looks like it may be crashing pretty much right after the OpenGL context is created, but I can't know for sure..

Date: 11/21/13
Time: 03:36:02:
Build 260
Ubuntu 13.10 x86_64
Steam initialized
Num displays: 1
OpenGL 4.2.12337 Compatibility Profile Context 13.101 initialized (ATI Technologies Inc. AMD Radeon HD 7700 Series)
GLSL version 4.30
ARB_texture_storage extension present
Sound Device: default stereo
Record Device: default

abelthorne · November 2013

Yup, problem still present in build 260 (with AMD Catalyst 13.11 beta 6 from AMD site in my case).

misk · November 2013

Same here. Does anyone even managed to run NS2 on any build on any distro with any driver and any AMD GPU?

Everyone asks for logs, backtraces even though they were posted in many threads with same results. Maybe devs could actually try to run NS2 on their own machine with Linux and AMD GPU? Seriously.

[Linux] b262 doesn't start

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