Shotgun Stuttering (Freeze Frame) on Fire 252
Kilo
Join Date: 2013-09-01 Member: 187529Members, Reinforced - Shadow
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I'm getting a stutter when fireing the shotgun after the reinforced build. I havent really tested it but it seems to happen when I am closer to a wall. Maybe its from the decal and debris that the shells generate on impact? The fps isnt dropping or anything and I generally have good performance other than this one issue. After talking to others ingame I have found I am not alone with this problem... Are the devs aware, working on a fix? I have 1200hrs+ on NS2 and love the game but this is making the game unplayable for me right now as obviously the shotgun is a big part of marine play and needs fast twitch fireing which is impossible with this stutter. I have just bought the shadow pack too
please fix...
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Do you have any errors in your console?
If you do not try to run with loadtimes true on and see if there is a something that happens when you fire the shotgun.
After some further testing I no longer think it's anything to do with the decal or debris effect.
Out of my clan of 10 members 2 of us get the stutter on fireing the shotgun so I was assuming it was going to be a fairly widespread issue, if anyone else has this issue and can better technically explain whats happening I would be greatfull if you could post here...
EDIT: I have since verified game cache and then done a full reinstall of NS2 using no workshop mods or anything (also deleting app data from the users/roaming folder), I have also tried running the game at a variety of resolutions and graphical settings and still always have the same issue
I have found that shooting the shotgun drops my fps by about 15-20 (with decal life all the way down and partical quality on low) but this only happens if my fps is already 94 or lower.
If I have 95fps+ I wont get the stutter when shooting the shotgun, nor will I get the 15-20 drop in fps on its fireing.
EDIT: I think it would be worth mentioning that if I'm in a room with say 60fps, shooting any other weapon other than the shotgun wont produce the stutter, it is only the shotgun I have this issue with.
Be sure to have the tallest bar at the bottom of your screen selected first, then expand the horizontal purple bars that are the longest.
If you need further help with this please let me know.
Thanks!
Also type loadtimes true and r_loading true into the console once you are in the Ready Room.. be sure to check the console when this hitch occurs for you and see if you can spot anything that just loaded. If so.. type something in the ingame chat like "Hitch" or something to mark the position in the log file.
Then upload your log.txt or techsupport.exe results here. (hopefully with the picture of the profiler too)
Thanks everyone
I used loadtimes true and r_loading true but nothing is produced in the console when I fire the shotgun and the game stutters.
I took a screenshot of what is happening in profile at the moment I fire.
Any other gun I shoot is fine but the shotgun produces the long purple bars and a high bar coming up from the bottom on almost every shot I fire.
I also have a fraps video if you would like me to send that to you?
I use all low settings, DX9 and phsyx off, resolution is 720p. (however as I said before I have tried many combinations of setting but always get the same stutter)
Please let me know if this is of any help as I didnt really know what I was doing in the debug mode.
AMD FX Bulldozer 6 core 3.8GHZ
16 GB RAM
Gigabyte HD 6970 2GB
So, i know you've confirmed no mods and vanilla server etc.. but i need to find the common element between multiple users. Thanks
BTW, the culprit is "TestSweep (9114 calls)"
Run techsupport.exe located in ns2 folder (e.g C:\Games\Steam\SteamApps\common\Natural Selection 2\techsupport.exe)
Then save the .zip file it generates and upload here.
Thanks everyone
edit: I dont need profile shots like kilo gave, i need your techsupport.exe zip file!
When I click on them nothing happens.
Remember to attach your techsupport.exe report too
Thanks
Thanks!
It turned out to be a huge bug, causing all sorts of hell to the game. (networking etc)
It isn't fixed for this patch, but this and the memory crashing issues are the two top issues for next patch.
Thanks
Are you guys still needing info from people experiencing the bug or have you found the culprit?
And get 64 bit ffs 76.48% of users on steam use 64. Update the .exe please.