A Very Strange Problem

iownjuiownju Join Date: 2002-12-22 Member: 11388Members
in Tech Support
<div class="IPBDescription">This problem dosent let me play ns like</div> Well ive been laying ns for a long time but this problem has never gone away. Ive uninstalled and re downloaded but nothing worked. O can play marines fine but no commander and i cant play aleins at all and this is really starting to bug me <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->

here are some pics of the problem and some descriptions to. <span style='color:blue'>tell me if you cant see the pics!</span>


Here you can see when i right click to see the menu all i see are these words in corrner that are overlaping each ohter <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='wow.gif'><!--endemo--> and you see pink around the edges
<img src='http://invis.free.anonymizer.com/http://members.lycos.co.uk/shaboinker/picture044.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>

Here it is again
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it is the same with marines to with the overlapping words


Here this is what it looks like when im commander, i have no arrow to see but there is something because ill move my mouse around and sometimes it well pass over the logout button and will light up but i hav eno arrow to see what im am doing
<img src='http://invis.free.anonymizer.com/http://members.lycos.co.uk/shaboinker/picture049.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>

So i hope someone can help me, right now i think it is my grpahics card that cant handle it but i dont think it is that but im not sure what it is now <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->

Plz help
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  • chaostheorychaostheory Join Date: 2002-12-19 Member: 11155Members
    what graphics card do you have ?
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  • iownjuiownju Join Date: 2002-12-22 Member: 11388Members
    i have an ATI 7500 Vivo i think, but i can play cs and battle field just fine with out any problems <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • iownjuiownju Join Date: 2002-12-22 Member: 11388Members
    can anyone help me?? i really want to play but this is not helping me <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • PrototypePrototype Join Date: 2002-12-17 Member: 11002Members
    1) Do you see this problem if you switch to software rendering? If so then it's probably not your video card.
    2) How does it look DirectX vs. OpenGL? Same problem with both API's?
    3) Does your video card manufacturer have an updated Firmware version that you could download and update? If Vivo is your Manufacturer, have you looked at ATI's site for a reference driver for the 7500 chipset?
    4) What version of DirectX are you using... and with what Operating Environment (e.g. Windows 98SE, Windows XP Home, etc...).
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  • iownjuiownju Join Date: 2002-12-22 Member: 11388Members
    1) What do you mean by switching rendering, i havent really tired anything with in the game, i have changed a few things but it dosent work

    2) I dont really understand what you are talking about here

    3) I have installed the latest drivers but the seem to make it worse in a way, but are drivers and firmwaer diffrent or the same

    4) im using Windows 98se and i have x 8.1
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  • PrototypePrototype Join Date: 2002-12-17 Member: 11002Members
    I'm at work right now so I don't know the exact steps to get you to your Video options.

    Once you've launched Natural-Selection there is an option for "Configuration" or something similar. Then under that there should be some options for configuring your video. One of the sub-menu's allows you to set "OpenGL" or "DirectX" or "Software". I'm under the assumption you're running with OpenGL.

    First try to switch to DirectX and click Done (or okay). If it was on DirectX then try to switch to OpenGL. Basically you'll want to enter the game and see if the problem is happening with both or just one of the two API's (OpenGL or DirextX). If you see this problem with both DirectX and OpenGL, you should then try the option for "Software" to see if it's still happening. Let me know either way.

    Just for your reference... OpenGL and DirectX are 3d API's (Application Porgramming Interface). Half-Life supports both of these API's, but you can only be using one or the other at a time (it also supports software rendering, but it's not a true 3d API). Video chipset/card manufacturers are responsible for making their video cards (and drivers) compatible with the OpenGL and DirectX .... but when it comes to OpenGL they typically won't implement the entire API (usually because it's not needed except for the professional 10k video cards). It's my understanding they only use a subset of the entire API (so you never know what you're going to get from different vendors). Please note that this is from a friend who's done Video Game Development on PC's and XBox... so it's second hand information, I've never personally developed any software that used OpenGL or DirectX. I'm sure there's someone who knows more about 3D API's around here that might be able to clarify this more for you (and me I guess). <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • CatgirlCatgirl Join Date: 2002-11-03 Member: 5741Members
    It looks like you're in Software rendering because of the floor pixellatedness. NS doesn't support Software, but you have a Radeon 7500 and I use mine (a 7500 also) in up to 1152x864 OpenGL so you should have no problem with that.
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  • Phant0mxPhant0mx Join Date: 2002-12-05 Member: 10496Members
    I can tell you right now he's in software mode. I'd recomend 1024 x 786 openGL.
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  • PrototypePrototype Join Date: 2002-12-17 Member: 11002Members
    To change it you'll need to do the following.

    1) Launch Natural Selection
    2) Select "Config"
    3) Select "Video"
    4) Select "Video Modes"

    If you choose OpenGL, just leave it to the "Default" setting and then click OK. Should work fine. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • weirdballsweirdballs Join Date: 2002-12-22 Member: 11339Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Prototype+Dec 24 2002, 05:11 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Prototype @ Dec 24 2002, 05:11 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->To change it you'll need to do the following.

    1) Launch Natural Selection
    2) Select "Config"
    3) Select "Video"
    4) Select "Video Modes"

    If you choose OpenGL, just leave it to the "Default" setting and then click OK. Should work fine. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    thanks for the info.. it got mine to work... <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • iownjuiownju Join Date: 2002-12-22 Member: 11388Members
    well ive tried most of the fixes you guys gave me and none of them worked <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo--> so i think its something else, but not the card
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  • SupernornSupernorn Best. Picture. Ever. Made. Ever. Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7608Members, Constellation
    edited December 2002
    i had exactly the same problem. Here is a simple method of fixing this:

    1) Launch Natural Selection
    2) Select "Config"
    3) Select "Video"
    4) Select "Video Modes"

    in your case, it will show that it is using OPENGL, what you will need to do is change it to DIRECT 3D.
    once done, click on apply to save the settings and this will fix the problem...

    hope this helps <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • JaguarJaguar Join Date: 2003-01-05 Member: 11859Members
    edited January 2003
    Okay, so I had the exact same problem with NS. Switched from OpenGL to Direct3d, and it all cleared up. Except now I'm running at 4fps in both NS, CS, and TFC. TFC and CS worked well with OpenGL before. Also, when I start messing with the Video modes, and try OpenGL, it tells me my video card doesn't support it.

    Help?

    -Jag
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