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AdjuchasAdjuchas Join Date: 2013-08-21 Member: 187006Members
I've been in the mood for a Savage-like game recently and this seems to be the only active game of it's genre that I could find. So my question is, is it any good? I typically take on a commander role in these games.
I've seen a few videos but don't really know much about the community, are there clans that operate frequently etc?

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  • NeokenNeoken Bruges, Belgium Join Date: 2004-03-20 Member: 27447Members, NS2 Playtester, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Silver, Subnautica Playtester
    edited August 2013
    I played Savage, but it never hooked me like NS did. It has a pretty small but rather friendly community. Friendlier than most in any case. Pub play has much more teamwork than you see at any other online shooter, with a lot of people using mics. The comp scene is small as well, but there are regular tournaments, and lots of dedicated casters. And there are frequent updates made for the game, like this big new patch coming pretty soon. In short, yes, it is good. :)

    But yeah, that's just, like, my opinion, man.
  • RoobubbaRoobubba Who you gonna call? Join Date: 2003-01-06 Member: 11930Members, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow
    There is a pretty decent competitive scene, and there are some good public servers as well. It's a great game, but it isn't particularly friendly to new players. If you can get past that and stick with it, NS2 is an awesome game :)

    If you're already thinking about competitive play, I'm going to assume that you've some experience of this in another game and that you're a reasonably good player. In that case, you should have no problem learning the game, but be warned that it's a fairly steep learning curve, and there are some (from the pub perspective) insanely good players around, and you should not expect to be able to kill them often.

    In short:

    BUY IT NOW :)
  • VetinariVetinari Join Date: 2013-07-23 Member: 186325Members, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Silver
    It's the best game ever and you should buy it instantly.

    Apart from that, there are regularly (balance-)updates, a big content update is incoming.

    Just make sure to get past the steep learning curve and stick to the game; it's worth it. Also, I recommend to get ~30-50 hrs of gameplay experience first, before trying to comm. It helps you understanding how everything works - and the normally nice community is allergical to rookie comms :D
  • delta78delta78 Join Date: 2013-01-08 Member: 178131Members
    edited August 2013
    Well, there are these clan wars and tournaments, which are frequent enough. The community is mixed. Some people are total pain in the plot, if they see that your are new player, who hasn't enough experience, especially if you are commanding. They'll swarm you with insults and kick you out, as soon as they find that you are a rockie. However, there are a lot of guys, who are friendly enough to help you learn the game.

    If you want to mostly command, you'll need to put your authority and set the rules in the team or most won't even bother to listen to you. You have to command with an iron fist, if you want stuff done! Communication is essential for a good game.

    Now about the game, well it's good, though not many people play it these days. Although it's not hard to find a populated server. Players are mixed about, if the game is good or bad. ( that's why there is a mod 'better NS2 249' ;) ) It's a hard game, which involves a lot of frustration but if you are in a communicating team it will be a blast. Suddenly kills and deaths have no meaning, when the entire team works as one to accomplish the ultimate goal: kill the opponents. But there will be boring moments, where no one tries to work together, which the game is not at fault here but the players.

    Oh and you should make sure that your PC is high end or you'll have trouble with the FPS. Other than that, I can't think of anything else to say.
  • ColtColtColtColt Join Date: 2012-06-27 Member: 153707Members
    Neoken wrote: »
    But yeah, that's just, like, my opinion, man.

    But what if I'm not into that whole brevity thing?

  • AdjuchasAdjuchas Join Date: 2013-08-21 Member: 187006Members
    Cheers for the opinions guyts.
  • GISPGISP Battle Gorge Denmark Join Date: 2004-03-20 Member: 27460Members, Playtest Lead, Forum Moderators, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Squad Five Silver, Squad Five Gold, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Onos, WC 2013 - Gold, Subnautica Playtester, Forum staff
    @Adjuchas Hook me up, or anyone from the NS2 Mentors group. And any of us can "command from the ground" - So youll get valuable commander experience, while being being directed /adviced from the soldiers on the field. - Whit good communication and a can do attitude, and you will be a competant (pup commander) whitin a game or 3. The finer details and tactics is ofcouse something that takes time to develop. But it will give you a vary solid foundation and learn the fundimentals quickly.
    Allso spend the 10mins doing the tutorial, its a small time spend and alot of mistakes avoided :)

    On a side note, if you indeed are a long time fps gamer, you will get better at communicating, and become a better fps gamer in general. A skill that translates over to any other multiplayer game. So even if you do find the game to to suck, you will atleast get that from it, and your skills as a gamer will raise faster in NS2 than any other game. :)
  • VetinariVetinari Join Date: 2013-07-23 Member: 186325Members, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Silver
    edited August 2013
    Oh, and there are some great community made tutorials out there - Check out It's Super Effective, Tycho-whatever-he's-called exactly (Celchuuu!) and NS2 University. The latter unfortunately has only one vid.
  • UncleCrunchUncleCrunch Mayonnaise land Join Date: 2005-02-16 Member: 41365Members, Reinforced - Onos

    In my opinion you can't be only a commander all the time in this game.
    1 it's not the way it is.
    2 a good commander knows the ups and downs of every unit. So he train himself.

    Advices:
    -Play the tutorial map BEFORE joining servers. Help yourself by reading some info i you don't get it. Alien side is a bit complex at first glance. In this special map you will be able to play every unit on both side. 2 hours in the training map worth 40 hours running the maps on server without a clue.

    -Take 10 minutes on each maps by making your own local server and it should do it for the 'directions'. The common place names etc... Watch you map regularly (default key = C).

    With that, even as a rookie you will be a better player than some jerks above the 20hrs line.

    You can watch some video made by pro guys (being a better skulk etc...) but you won't wait that long do you ?
  • CCTEECCTEE Join Date: 2013-06-20 Member: 185634Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    YAY a new player ! (well, almost)
    UWE might have a little butter on their shared, dry slice of old bread today.
  • GISPGISP Battle Gorge Denmark Join Date: 2004-03-20 Member: 27460Members, Playtest Lead, Forum Moderators, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Squad Five Silver, Squad Five Gold, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Onos, WC 2013 - Gold, Subnautica Playtester, Forum staff
    CCTEE wrote: »
    YAY a new player ! (well, almost)
    UWE might have a little butter on their shared, dry slice of old bread today.
    The upcoming content patch will make that into a full sandwish :)
  • CCTEECCTEE Join Date: 2013-06-20 Member: 185634Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    GISP wrote: »
    CCTEE wrote: »
    YAY a new player ! (well, almost)
    UWE might have a little butter on their shared, dry slice of old bread today.
    The upcoming content patch will make that into a full sandwish :)

    Fine, but a shared sandwich, no need to spoil them!
  • VetinariVetinari Join Date: 2013-07-23 Member: 186325Members, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Silver
    -Take 10 minutes on each maps by making your own local server and it should do it for the 'directions'. The common place names etc... Watch you map regularly (default key = C).

    I don't think 10 minutes is enough for a NS2 map :D
  • NordicNordic Long term camping in Kodiak Join Date: 2012-05-13 Member: 151995Members, NS2 Playtester, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Supporter, Reinforced - Silver, Reinforced - Shadow
    I never have trouble finding populated servers, US WEST, but I do have trouble finding them in my preferred player count of less than 20 people.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Join Date: 2013-05-09 Member: 185176
    It´s a good game with some questionable desing and balance things, try it, it is not very expensive.
  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    Oh, and there are some great community made tutorials out there - Check out It's Super Effective, Tycho-whatever-he's-called exactly (Celchuu?) and NS2 University. The latter unfortunately has only one vid.
    Everyone always leaves the third U off.
  • BentRingBentRing Join Date: 2003-03-04 Member: 14318Members
    The reason I always call you TychoCelchuuuuuuuuuuuuu is to help even out the losses.
  • VetinariVetinari Join Date: 2013-07-23 Member: 186325Members, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Silver
  • 1dominator11dominator1 Join Date: 2010-11-19 Member: 75011Members
    Savage 2 is still kicking, though it is not much like savage.
  • MaxAmusMaxAmus UK Join Date: 2003-12-26 Member: 24779Members, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Reinforced - Shadow
    Savage was/is a good game. But it dose not compare to ns2,
  • ResRes Join Date: 2003-08-27 Member: 20245Members
    I enjoyed Savage 2 thoroughly. I also enjoy NS2.

    If you liked the savage games, you'll like Natural Selection.

    NS2 has a little bit of a higher learning curve to be good in my opinion compared to Savage 2 as NS2 is more "first person shooter" based compared to Savage 2.

    While you say you like commanding, you'll want to spend a LOT of time playing as just a player before you command. This will give you an idea what of tech trees and strats should be used first (unless it's a bad commander) and give you different tactic ideas for the different maps as you'll also want to learn the maps in and out as well.

    (no one likes a commander commanding who doesn't know these things, even newbies don't like an inexperienced comm.)
  • ChizzlerChizzler Join Date: 2013-01-04 Member: 177532Members
    xen32 wrote: »
    Let's do some math.
    I've put about 850 hours into this game by now, which at current price is like 0.03$ for one hour of entertainment. Where I live, you can get one small cracker for this price.
    salty-cracker-18090609.jpg
    Which brings us to this price equation:
    One hour of natural selection, USD = one small cracker, USD = 0.03 USD


    Now let's compare amount of satisfaction I get from each:
    One hour of natural selection > one small cracker > 0.03 USD

    So, if you love crackers, NS is even better AND is worth buying.

    So, in summary, you'd be crackers not to buy this game!
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