I hear the 760 gets 120+ frames, trying to run this on a 144hz monitor @1080p. Current 560 is under 100fps @1080p.
Tryin to figure out which card will be the best purchase, so what kinda frames are you 7950 and 7970 folks getting?
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edited August 2013
Even on an overclocked GTX670 and i5 3570k @ 4.4Ghz I don't get 120fps constant. Late game will still go below 100 often to 70-80 everytime. I don't think an upgrade is worthwhile for you.
Do you get any significant values for Waiting for gpu in r_stats?
vid settings - everything low/off except : Particle quality high - anti aliasing on - texture quality medium. Currently 60-80 fps with 3770k + gtx 560 @1080p. Wanna see which card is best for the price to make use of 144hz monitor so lookin for somethin to give 120+fps reliably.
tryina be 'responsible' and cap the spending at 300$. One of these 7950's or 760's for 220-260$ seems pretty doable with crossfire/sli down the road anyway
I just built a new rig around a Gigabyte 760 2gb OC and i5 3570k. Early game FPS is ~120, once things get mad hectic late game it might drop to ~70 with a ton of players/flamethrowers etc on screen. I've never seen a noticable hit on performance and I've got everything turned on full. That said I've not played on a 32 player server yet, and I'm playing at 1440x900 so not sure what the performance hit would be at a bigger res.
I bought my 760 with SLI in mind. 760's in SLI are on a par with the Titan, so if in a year you feel you need a bit more power than the 760 offers, you can drop in a second when the price has dropped significantly and have the equivalent of a Titan.
I hear the 760 gets 120+ frames, trying to run this on a 144hz monitor @1080p. Current 560 is under 100fps @1080p.
Tryin to figure out which card will be the best purchase, so what kinda frames are you 7950 and 7970 folks getting?
I just bought a 760 for $250 (best rating for the price range). I upgraded from a 550TI huge difference. I actually hit things now when my cursor is over the target lol. The game still needs alot of work on the server and net code side. pretty sure this is the biggest disconnect.
When you see some one with 400 ping going 60-1 in a FPS game there is defiantly something back wards in the code.
Do you get any significant values for Waiting for gpu in r_stats?
Check this first. If you're getting ~0 waiting for GPU values then upgrading your video card will do nothing to improve your fps.
The only person I've seen get close to getting a constant 120fps is derWalters here. He only needed a 660 ti, but he also has a beastly overclocked 3770k at 5GHz and dropped his resolution to 1024x768.
If you don't mind dealing with rebates, it looks like you can pick up a MSI GTX670 for $290 after $20 MIR at Newegg, which is probably the best performance in your price range.
@Rich_
Specifically for ns2? It doesn't matter. Any one of those cards will not bottleneck you.
You could probably even go as low as hd 4k series and it'd play ns2 fine with lower graphic settings. I have 5k series and there's no gpu impact even with everything maxed. As others have stated, the fps you get in ns2 is heavily heavily reliant on your cpu.
You could have a titan/7990 and it wouldn't matter if your cpu wasn't overclocked.
@Rich_
Specifically for ns2? It doesn't matter. Any one of those cards will not bottleneck you.
You could probably even go as low as hd 4k series and it'd play ns2 fine with lower graphic settings. I have 5k series and there's no gpu impact even with everything maxed. As others have stated, the fps you get in ns2 is heavily heavily reliant on your cpu.
You could have a titan/7990 and it wouldn't matter if your cpu wasn't overclocked.
It should be noted that I did find that a HD6950 and GTX670 can be bottlenecked depending on the resolution/graphics settings you use (e.g. 1080p + High graphics settings will bottleneck a 2600k @4.7GHz). As long as you don't care about ambient occlusion, shadows, or atmospherics, then a lowered powered AMD or nvidia GPU would be fine.
doing a 3770k @ 4.5ghz. current card is gtx 560, i can turn off the eye candy settings, go down to 900p, and get 100 fps. Just trying to take advantage of 144hz monitor on 1080p. Thinking 7950 saphire, overclock it to 670 performance, is this possible?
doing a 3770k @ 4.5ghz. current card is gtx 560, i can turn off the eye candy settings, go down to 900p, and get 100 fps. Just trying to take advantage of 144hz monitor on 1080p. Thinking 7950 saphire, overclock it to 670 performance, is this possible?
And then some. A 7950 should easily overclock up to 1150mhz on stock volts. Maybe even higher if your lucky. With 2500k at 4.5ghz, I can overclock my 7970 up to 1300mhz and I get no fps increase.
It should be noted that I did find that a HD6950 and GTX670 can be bottlenecked depending on the resolution/graphics settings you use (e.g. 1080p + High graphics settings will bottleneck a 2600k @4.7GHz). As long as you don't care about ambient occlusion, shadows, or atmospherics, then a lowered powered AMD or nvidia GPU would be fine.
GTX 670 overclocked will get bottlenecked if you use high particle, but using low particles its allright (its just rubbish, biggest problem is fuc"x"ing tracers...). Not really sure is high particles memory bandwidth hog or texture related, but little testing shows that overclocking memory helps more.. High particles will cause more slowdowns on bigger fights and when there is a alot particles..
Particles could be tweaked that they don't eat so much gpu power like medium setting or give option to turn of tracers that I can use low particles..
I try to record video or get pics how particles will cause slowdown, even shooting empty rt can give 200->130 fps drop. This problem is really old one, more like before launch (if I remember right), but performance was still more CPU related..
I´m interested how amd cards handles high particles while nvidia 670 and maybe 680/770 will struggle.. Maybe I need to buy one 7970
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Do you get any significant values for Waiting for gpu in r_stats?
I bought my 760 with SLI in mind. 760's in SLI are on a par with the Titan, so if in a year you feel you need a bit more power than the 760 offers, you can drop in a second when the price has dropped significantly and have the equivalent of a Titan.
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/geforce_gtx_760_sli_review,1.html
Anyway here are some other opinions. Remember... google is your friend.
http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-1688533/760ti-7950-tahiti.html
I just bought a 760 for $250 (best rating for the price range). I upgraded from a 550TI huge difference. I actually hit things now when my cursor is over the target lol. The game still needs alot of work on the server and net code side. pretty sure this is the biggest disconnect.
When you see some one with 400 ping going 60-1 in a FPS game there is defiantly something back wards in the code.
The only person I've seen get close to getting a constant 120fps is derWalters here. He only needed a 660 ti, but he also has a beastly overclocked 3770k at 5GHz and dropped his resolution to 1024x768.
However, if you want to upgrade your GPU, just go down this list until you find one in your price range: http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html
If you don't mind dealing with rebates, it looks like you can pick up a MSI GTX670 for $290 after $20 MIR at Newegg, which is probably the best performance in your price range.
Specifically for ns2? It doesn't matter. Any one of those cards will not bottleneck you.
You could probably even go as low as hd 4k series and it'd play ns2 fine with lower graphic settings. I have 5k series and there's no gpu impact even with everything maxed. As others have stated, the fps you get in ns2 is heavily heavily reliant on your cpu.
You could have a titan/7990 and it wouldn't matter if your cpu wasn't overclocked.
In addition to the one scardy linked, another good set of comprehensive benchmarks can be found here.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/GPU13/583
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/GPU12/372
206012, 1550592, 56, 202, 132.860
And then some. A 7950 should easily overclock up to 1150mhz on stock volts. Maybe even higher if your lucky. With 2500k at 4.5ghz, I can overclock my 7970 up to 1300mhz and I get no fps increase.
Everyone has their own favorite site for benchmarks. Here are some graphs from mine. The link says 7870 but the graph has everything from below your 560ti to the beyond gtx titan.
http://tpucdn.com/reviews/Powercolor/HD_7870_Devil/images/perfrel.gif
http://tpucdn.com/reviews/Powercolor/HD_7870_Devil/images/perfdollar.gif
And to answer your original question about what fps...
Frames, Time (ms), Min, Max, Avg
206012, 1550592, 56, 202, 132.860
Game settings: http://i.imgur.com/zAX3jJB.jpg
My fps in a graph: http://i.imgur.com/fRqcARQ.png
My gpu overclock: http://gpuz.techpowerup.com/13/08/17/62n.png
My2500k is overclocked to 4.4ghz right now.
The graph is over two games on a full 24 man server.
GTX 670 overclocked will get bottlenecked if you use high particle, but using low particles its allright (its just rubbish, biggest problem is fuc"x"ing tracers...). Not really sure is high particles memory bandwidth hog or texture related, but little testing shows that overclocking memory helps more.. High particles will cause more slowdowns on bigger fights and when there is a alot particles..
Particles could be tweaked that they don't eat so much gpu power like medium setting or give option to turn of tracers that I can use low particles..
I try to record video or get pics how particles will cause slowdown, even shooting empty rt can give 200->130 fps drop. This problem is really old one, more like before launch (if I remember right), but performance was still more CPU related..
I´m interested how amd cards handles high particles while nvidia 670 and maybe 680/770 will struggle.. Maybe I need to buy one 7970
I am guessing it is not to dissimilar to what you experience with your hardware...?