Aliens vs. Aliens?
GergiHakfriz
Join Date: 2013-01-27 Member: 182380Members
Join Date: 2013-01-27 Member: 182380Members
I had a random thought the other day about what it would be like if two alien or marine teams could square up against each other?
I feel like it could be a pretty cool experience, but I realize that it could also possibly upset the core identity of NS2 as being Marines vs. Aliens.
Anyway, just thought I'd share an idea for people to think about...thoughts?
I feel like it could be a pretty cool experience, but I realize that it could also possibly upset the core identity of NS2 as being Marines vs. Aliens.
Anyway, just thought I'd share an idea for people to think about...thoughts?
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Nothing on alien vs alien. But can you imagine a game where both teams go camo? Or Fades blinking around each other and then retreating when low health. Skulks leaping around trying to get one bite. And how would Gorge's work. The most difficult part would be making them distinctly noticeable for each side so unless you recolor them it will not turn out well. Besides a noticeable recolor would make aliens stand out when they are based around sneaking and such. It would be bad.
For AvA camo issue - You can always make certain buildings (for expample "veil") act like observatory to uncover enemy's cloaking.
AvA would be awesome, i loved it in NS1 (it was a bit buggy, but still playable) - Custom models/textures/colours. There were certain restrictions like Onos couldn't "eat" other onoses/fades. Umbra was good against lerkspike. Gorges bile bombing hives, Skulks killing each other with two bites. Parasiting was also good :)
The biggest issue would be Cysts..
That's not a bad idea
Also "settlers" rule could be implemented (borders) - Like here:
You know what I'm thinking...
The rest of the Kharaa, disgusted that brethren would work with humans, are now working with humans to destroy this freak ideal. And because they want universal domination, not a measly sectioned off area.
Ok, that sounds like fan fiction, let’s just move onto A&M vs. A&M...
Or, just make an alien faction infused with nanobots by humans to fight Kharaa. Simply add a patchy black "borg but not borg" layer on top of their skin and make their infestation a black powdery substance.
Instead of a comm, they could have a birthing pool (no eggs) and an automatic, slow but purpouseful creep and automatic building of res towers as soon as they are within creep. They will get resources slower than regular Kharaa, but have all the 'upgrades' programmed into them thanks to their nanobots and thus can always get celerity/carapace/silence (and the others) as a lerk/ fade/ gorge /onos (but not skulk)
Instead of camo they would get 'shadow', basically turning them into a black mist, not unlike the fade when blinking, with a slight displacement effect with 'mirror images' so that there is an effect on Kharaa accuracy when it is in effect.
That solves two things: visual identity and background. Balance wise, their buildings would be 50% tougher than regular Kharaa. Skulks would be slower but tougher. Of course, this would have to be a mod.
Those were my thought on MvM. And guess what. It's not fun at all...
Alien combat is mostly melee-based, and melee vs. melee would depend a lot on proper collision handling. Not impossible I think, but much harder to get right than marines shooting other marines.
In related news, really looking forward to playing MvM when it's ready for 248+
As for actual mods in this direction, I remember seeing a "Thunder Hive" mod a while back (Doesn't seem to be on workshop anymore though) where it was skulks v skulks and one bite killed, which sounds like hilariously fast paced fun.
EDIT: This post about someone making a map to work for thunder hive is the only relation to it I can find on the forums: http://forums.unknownworlds.com/discussion/130550/ns2-th-pad
NS2 always gives me a little feeling of Starcraft2. I would hate mirrorgames, but I would love to see a 3rd race or even more. I really loved Dawn of War because of the 9 different and well balanced races it had in the end.
Starcraft or Dawn of War units + techs mixed with the NS2 playstyle would be most amazing!
We already have terrans and zerg nin NS2. Add Protoss or Necrons as Dlc plz
Aliens wouldn't need a re-colour, keep ideas simple and they work. They should just keep the system in place we have now for Alien vs Alien (which is an awesome idea). Where in Players on the same Team can see each other, even through walls. They can just gently highlight friendlies like they are when nearby but out of your direct view and keep the enemy Aliens normal colour and not highlighted. Simple.
I'm more concerned about the Onos vs Babbler, I mean that big guy doesn't stand a chance fighting something that small. Elephants are scared of mice for a reason ya know!