Cheater Alert
Hannebambel
Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5416Banned
Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5416Banned
be careful if you enter a server with a guy named "photon" on it.
This Guy plays primarily skulk and has
his jaw model switched off +
somekind of "logon script or hack"
the reason for this is that he can bite with both precision, which can be achieved with a low mouse sensitivity, while also make fast turnarounds like having high mouse sensitivity. Achieving both with 100% is IMHO impossible.
His attacks never misses, even when he has turned his back on you. maybe it is some roundhouse bite hack instead.
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More obvious is a script, which allows him to perform a leap attack and almost simultaneously a bite (less than a tenth of a second). Even with spacebar weaponchange or anything like that you would need half a second.
Further a wallhack, coz he knows were you are even without you being parasited.
After he left the server, things went back to normal again.
And there were no noobs on the server, I guarantee.
This Guy plays primarily skulk and has
his jaw model switched off +
somekind of "logon script or hack"
the reason for this is that he can bite with both precision, which can be achieved with a low mouse sensitivity, while also make fast turnarounds like having high mouse sensitivity. Achieving both with 100% is IMHO impossible.
His attacks never misses, even when he has turned his back on you. maybe it is some roundhouse bite hack instead.
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More obvious is a script, which allows him to perform a leap attack and almost simultaneously a bite (less than a tenth of a second). Even with spacebar weaponchange or anything like that you would need half a second.
Further a wallhack, coz he knows were you are even without you being parasited.
After he left the server, things went back to normal again.
And there were no noobs on the server, I guarantee.
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I can understand you are mentioning it out of good intentions, but being warned of one bad player out of the million or so Halflife players isn't much use.
Let admins deal with things as they happen.
His attacks never misses, even when he has turned his back on you. maybe it is some roundhouse bite hack instead.
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Dude, I do things like that all the time, and I play Sensi 20.
As for the wallhack, it's a shame, but you can actually get GFX drivers (which HL CAN'T protect against) to set textures as you wish (i.e, with some time on Photoshop, to 50% alpha)
But you also get a similar effect if you play with a decent set of headphones anyway. (note 2 self. Get quadraphonic sound ASAP)
Question while I'm at it. Aureal Sonic Vortex 2 - If I get some quaddie headphones, do it support it? And do I need th change anything in HL to get it on?
Get a **obscenity** life and play it proper and not let some **obscenity** script do ya work for you....
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The last I remember, the lastinv command works now. Which means he could just leap, hit q, then bite, that easy. Don't see why he needs a script at all. Also, I thought instant-attack-switch scripts didn't work. They used to kill you, but now I thought they just made the second attack not happen.
In games where combat is melee it isn't difficult to tag someone on a turn. You'll have a huge person/thing in front of you when you've whipped around enough. Skulks are even easier cuz they can bite the whole way round regardless of what they hit, as they have no ammo limitation.
Speed turning like this is a skill I'd say you need to be even mediocre in games like Quake.
Now on the other hand, I've noticed some clans using the model hack on their servers. One even went so far as to ban a person who used it in turn to retaliate. Sad thing is these guys are relatively well known as well.
Kheras
PLEASE, always SPECTATE a guy, and watch him, if he then does insane things(180 on the nanosecond, 100% aim with teh pistol right after that turn...), RECORD A DEMO. If its possible in demos, include the part where you pull down the console and type "status", so we see that you didnt just make a demo of someone(your friend) that you KNEW had cheats even before you started playing, have someone you dont like and get his WonID and say that his name was the same as (your friend)the guy you knew had cheats...
I dont know the demo recording commands, someone get plz?
OMG HE KILLED ME, CHEAAAATTT!!!!!!!121!!
p h o t o n
I've played with him, and he doesn't hack i'm pretty sure.
Most of your average "n00b wallh4x0rs" just sit ON the wall as a skulk and listen for a guy behind it, i do it all the time, just jump down and chase the sound, high volume + headphones > marines.
As for the bite. When a skulk bites the damage is not just done from his jaw, for some reason the damage is done on the sides of his body too, so he can actually be doing a 1/4 turn while biting and getting hits off.
And yes, a skilled player with last inv and good FPS can leap and bite nearly at the same time. wish i could :\
And as for the jaw model, you'll just hafta live with that until 1.04, some people believe it or not use that without thinking of it as a cheat. I used to use it because it tremendously helped my FPS, then i saw how much reaction it got as an exploit and simply stopped, killed my framerate though <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo--> Some people will do that, some won't, at any rate, at least in NS there's a buy off to using it, you lose half your HUD without it. Anywho, unless you have some hardcore prove, like a demo or some sure fire screenshot, don't accuse someone of hacking, it ruins there rep, quite possibly for no reason. I once got accuse of hacking just cuz someone though it was impossible for a guy with 400 ping to get a 4-1 ratio in Firearms, lol, you people carry this paranoia way to far.
Example:
I use 6 keys for movement instead of the normal 4.
w = forward
s = back
a = strafe right
q = turn right
d = strafe left
e = turn left
took a while to get used to, but it works very well once you pick it up.
Period!
BTW his name was photon, not p h o t o n. I would have mentioend that.
And further I am sure that I am not a noob, as well as many other regular players on this server haven´t been.
Scripting = Cheating
Period!
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If that was true why was it included in the HL/NS engines?
This is him:
addix|Jimy
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Scripting = Cheating
Period!
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If that was true why was it included in the HL/NS engines?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
good luck trying to uninclude it. The game would be boring if config files were banned. I'd hate to have to play with someone else's idea of a good config set.
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<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->his jaw model switched off +<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Do you have any proof of this whatsoever? how could you know? Big difference between turning off jaw model and biting only when needed as apposed to holding down the attack button.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->the reason for this is that he can bite with both precision, which can be achieved with a low mouse sensitivity, while also make fast turnarounds like having high mouse sensitivity. Achieving both with 100% is IMHO impossible.
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High mouse sensitivity (mines near maxed) and mAd FPS skills = hacker? Ive run with this guy a few times on Joe.to's servers (Joe's servers ROCK!) alot of us woulda noticed if he were exploiting, specially since were not always on the same team <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
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Easily done with .cfg file and bindings, i had something simular set up with my mouse wheel and buttons but i didnt like what it did to my lerking.
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Ahh my personal favorite slogan from NS...."YOU WALLHACK!!!". The dev team made a hellova game, specially when they did the sounds, just buy paying attention i can spend a few seconds and get a fix on every marine and where they are going within 100 yards of wherever my skulk may be hiding, without parasite. Personally i use a set of plantronics 70 headset/microphone combo with the behind the head strap, blocks out all other sound and makes the marines my Bee-Yatch. Ive seen photon (no spaces no caps) play plenty of times on the server i frequent, he aint no cheater, hes just experienced.
-Ronin <!--emo&::skulk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='skulk.gif'><!--endemo-->
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I had no idea you could turn this off. Actually, I think it should be an option on the drop-downs for skulks. What kind of alien has EYES inside its MOUTH? The jaw model is just a cute thing the programmers threw in because it's funny. The fact that every time I bite, I end up being blind and having to stop, find the marine, and attack again...well, it's just not exactly what an "organic killing machine" should be like for maximal efficiency. As far as natural selection is concerned, that adaptation would be selected out...
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[clearly thats bullsht]
but they ARE beign developed. what are you going to do then peeple? headshot headshot headshot headshot lalal alala al ala ala lalalaaaa
Period!
BTW his name was photon, not p h o t o n. I would have mentioend that.
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R O F L! Are you that stupid? bind "w" "+forward" god damn i guess we're all hackers.
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and he imitated my clan tag...he aint in my clan.
I've played with photon a number of times both on his team and opposite. While I might not agree with some of his tactics (read strategies) I've witnessed nothing that would define him as a cheater.
As others have said, if you have some proof, present it.
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i have loads of proof on that cheating fecker...maybe i will post it.
one question...where do the demos go when you record and stop them?<!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
how else do i put it.. " I don't cheat ".. you want some good tips on skulking? e-mail me or message whatever the forum has to contact me
btw, i play with sensitvity 35, thats how i pretty much play all half-life mods
also, i can find marines without them being parasited because guess what,
i know the pathway marines take! surprise surprise! for example..
marines headed to Eclipse ( i said subspace my bad) through triad on ns_eclipse.. then i go through station access and behind them to ambush.. is that cheat (?)
i can give you a hundred ambush tactics on every normal NS map not custom if u wanna know.
btw... whoever accuses me of cheating, what server did i play with you on and what nickname did you use?