Could we please have...
Angry Child
Join Date: 2012-12-05 Member: 174256Members
Join Date: 2012-12-05 Member: 174256Members
<b><!--sizeo:5--><span style="font-size:18pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo-->The game start only when both commanders hop into their respective hives or command stations.<!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec--></b>
So many games are over before they even start on map changes or load ins or with new players because the marine commander doesn't even enter the chair until around 1-2 minutes into the game, for any serious game play you would expect your commander in the chair right at the start of a match, I feel like a lot of pub losses for marines occur from this simple reason alone, the alien comm doesn't need any organized prerogative from his teammates to start capturing the map. He has the advantage right from the get go, you would alleviate a lot of the problems for the community developers if you addressed this.
So many games are over before they even start on map changes or load ins or with new players because the marine commander doesn't even enter the chair until around 1-2 minutes into the game, for any serious game play you would expect your commander in the chair right at the start of a match, I feel like a lot of pub losses for marines occur from this simple reason alone, the alien comm doesn't need any organized prerogative from his teammates to start capturing the map. He has the advantage right from the get go, you would alleviate a lot of the problems for the community developers if you addressed this.
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I've never seen a game begin after map change cos i always come in after it's started (damn u pre-caching!)
...but i guess ironhorse is alluding to the fact that this is a known issue and perhaps has been fixed? :o
I've never seen a game begin after map change cos i always come in after it's started (damn u pre-caching!)
...but i guess ironhorse is alluding to the fact that this is a known issue and perhaps has been fixed? :o<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Theyre fixing it, and if you are loading that slow consider SSD caching.
Do you work for an SSD manufacturer? I keep seeing you pimpig them all over the board.
Or did you just get an SSD and you can't stop talking about it? :)
Or did you just get an SSD and you can't stop talking about it? :)<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I think it stems from a couple things, I was really frustrated with how regardless of having a great computer, I was dealing with terrible load times. If I worked for an SSD manufacturer, I'm pretty sure I'd be fired since I have only stated what brand I have, and actually linked an entirely different brand for someone else.
I just think that for the money, it is a massive boost of performance, and considering you can do SSD caching where you don't have to sacrifice space, it's a no brainer. Probably the best $50-100 upgrade you can get, hands down, regardless of all other components. I've had an SSD for a while, and was very leary at first, and now I am just spreading the word.
I just think that for the money, it is a massive boost of performance, and considering you can do SSD caching where you don't have to sacrifice space, it's a no brainer. Probably the best $50-100 upgrade you can get, hands down, regardless of all other components. I've had an SSD for a while, and was very leary at first, and now I am just spreading the word.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I respectfully disagree with how much of a boost it is.
I'd rather pay slightly more for a 10,000RPM HDD than nearly double for a quarter of the space for an SSD.
I'd rather pay slightly more for a 10,000RPM HDD than nearly double for a quarter of the space for an SSD.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Price points for SSD's have come down quite a bit in the last 12months.
You just need to be wise in what you put on them. For any games with long load times or high read/write during play, the improvements you get are as someone mentioned above, the best bang for buck any bit of hardware will give you. If you're putting it off because you want to treat it like mass storage, you're doing it wrong.
It's a great option to help people who are slow loaders but only have a small SSD boot drive.
Or did you just get an SSD and you can't stop talking about it? :)<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I've had an SSD since last summer I still think it's awesome. PC boots in seconds, apps off the SSD load almost instantly!
I have an SSD as an OS drive and NS2 on my Samsung F1. I'm always first in after a server change.
I can understand why someone would want to tell everyone. It's really, really awesome. If anyone takes his advice and/or gets a new SSD as an OS drive, check<a href="http://www.overclock.net/t/1156654/seans-windows-7-install-optimization-guide-for-ssds-hdds" target="_blank"> this site </a>first.
On topic:
Couldn't a pub play impatiently jump into the chair, then hop out after the game starts? It would kinda bring everything back to square one.
Couldn't a pub play impatiently jump into the chair, then hop out after the game starts? It would kinda bring everything back to square one.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Who would do that? It would cripple your own team. It would just be a troll move like vote eject or recycling or spamming stuff to intentionally waste resources.
In pubs, people will do a lot of things that cripple their team. Make a pub sit around for 30-60seconds. Either people will leave or someone will hop in just to start the game, then hop out saying, "I've never comm'd and don't know what to do, at all."
It's still better than no one going in at all till 3-4 minutes in and then instead of playing a match, I play "the marine's boring last stand" that goes on for 20-30 mins. Besides, I know commanders that load slow and want to play commander only to hop in with a disadvantage.
The reason there's even this problem is because people want to play Marines/Aliens and run straight for a team to reserve their slot, leading to the game starting pre-emptively even before everyone had loaded in. It's frustrating.
The issue is that the default position is few players/no comm at the start of matches. Requiring someone to actively sabotage the game will reduce the frequency that it occurs.
My god...it would solve so many first round on new map load problems.
I recently installed it onto my HDD(well all of steam on a WB black drive)
Loads times are 15-20s longer which is nothing really
This is with texture streaming off
It's a great option to help people who are slow loaders but only have a small SSD boot drive.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Wait what?
I tried to do this 2 days ago
Tried to install random games onto a 2nd HDD that I dont play often but keep main games like NS2 on the SSD
People said it was not possible so I just transferred everything to my HDD
The reason there's even this problem is because people want to play Marines/Aliens and run straight for a team to reserve their slot, leading to the game starting pre-emptively even before everyone had loaded in. It's frustrating.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Great argument for this type of change. It would help with late loading comms.
Is that a "sit tight, we are already planning to implement this in the upcoming patch" or a "sit tight, we are planning to implement this in a couple of months down the line when half the player base will have quit already anyway"
You just need to be wise in what you put on them. For any games with long load times or high read/write during play, the improvements you get are as someone mentioned above, the best bang for buck any bit of hardware will give you. If you're putting it off because you want to treat it like mass storage, you're doing it wrong.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I'm pushing it off because I can't think of any real use for it beyond gaming and/or backing up your computer if you're going to be doing a re-install.
One of my RL friends has a SSD just for World of Warcraft and Diablo III.
Apparently loading 3 seconds faster than everyone else is important when you're doing a 25 man raid.
One of my RL friends has a SSD just for World of Warcraft and Diablo III.
Apparently loading 3 seconds faster than everyone else is important when you're doing a 25 man raid.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
1. Much faster boot times
2. Much faster app loading times. No more system tray appearing slowly 1 by 1.
3. Much faster game loading times
4. If you ever have to page, you're paging to RAM like speeds, not spindle speeds
5. Much faster streaming of data on specific games. ie Your friend might login to capital city xyz and start trying to 'load-in' 500 odd character models into memory. It's going to be a ######load quicker on an SSD than your moving parts hard drive. Diablo was also notorious for this when you initially cached each new mob. IF you had loaded for the first time and joined someone else, teleport to them mid battle, you're going to have a hard time for 10 or so seconds whilst your SATA drive tries furiously to keep up.