Build me an NS2 rig

godriflegodrifle Join Date: 2006-12-01 Member: 58815Members
Requirement: At least 30 fps in NS2 at all times, occasional hiccups forgiven, but during hectic combat, 30 fps is a must. I know you don't actually have the rig to see if you're getting 30 frames with it, so a bit of guessing is a given.
Computer must be as cheap as possible. Just the rig, no other peripherals.
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  • NeoRussiaNeoRussia Join Date: 2012-08-04 Member: 154743Members
    edited December 2012
    You need a series 3 i5/i7 and overclock it past 4GHz to get a good constant fps in NS2. For a graphics card my GTX460 is more than enough, I would recommend the 560ti though, 1GB VRAM at least. High performance RAM is nice, NS2 needs anything higher than 2GB. If you want at least 30fps, I can just sell you my old CPU if you want lol. $150 for the motherboard, processor, and RAM. It can run NS2 above 30fps easy, Q6600 is all you need if you overclock high enough. It gets that and three times more early game and 60fps mid game. Much lower in big fights though and that's what matters. 30fps really sucks and is unplayable in my opinion. I'm not at my best unless I get 80fps or higher. You can make a computer for about $350 that can run NS2 at 30fps, if you really want that.
  • rmbrown09rmbrown09 Join Date: 2012-10-17 Member: 162592Members
    edited December 2012
    <!--quoteo(post=2042080:date=Dec 8 2012, 01:00 PM:name=godrifle)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (godrifle @ Dec 8 2012, 01:00 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2042080"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Requirement: At least 30 fps in NS2 at all times, occasional hiccups forgiven, but during hectic combat, 30 fps is a must. I know you don't actually have the rig to see if you're getting 30 frames with it, so a bit of guessing is a given.
    Computer must be as cheap as possible. Just the rig, no other peripherals.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I'm going to assume you're running at 1080p. I would say a 560ti to ensure great gameplay and anything over a 2500k / 3550k.
  • LofungLofung Join Date: 2004-08-21 Member: 30757Members
    <!--quoteo(post=2042080:date=Dec 9 2012, 04:00 AM:name=godrifle)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (godrifle @ Dec 9 2012, 04:00 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2042080"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Computer must be as cheap as possible.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    if you are putting this as a bound, i would say: forget about it. playing this game is basically money burning on BBC 8pm.
  • NeoRussiaNeoRussia Join Date: 2012-08-04 Member: 154743Members
    well he wants 30fps, which is easy. my CPU is more than 6 years old and I get above 30 most of the time in 18 player servers.
  • godriflegodrifle Join Date: 2006-12-01 Member: 58815Members
    edited December 2012
    I meant never dropping below 30FPS, so it should have way more frames then that early/mid game.
  • pRiNcEkAhUnApRiNcEkAhUnA Join Date: 2012-03-06 Member: 148264Members
    <!--quoteo(post=2042105:date=Dec 8 2012, 12:43 PM:name=godrifle)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (godrifle @ Dec 8 2012, 12:43 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2042105"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I meant never dropping below 30FPS, so it should have way more frames then that early/mid game.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    HahahAhahaha. Good request. That is something us gamers on some of the best hardware cannot achieve.
  • NeoRussiaNeoRussia Join Date: 2012-08-04 Member: 154743Members
    I hardly ever go below 30 only in extreme cases and in 24 player servers with only a Q6600. I'm getting an i5 at the end of this month, I'll tell you how much I get.
  • MaximumSquidMaximumSquid Join Date: 2010-07-20 Member: 72593Members
    <u><b>godrifle:</b></u>

    i3 + HD6870 gets me 120 frames in combat mod, but only 20-30 frames during the main game when the map is full of buildings

    I'd try to shoot just above my rig especially now that it's almost a year old
  • ZenuZenu Join Date: 2010-07-26 Member: 72861Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    edited December 2012
    I had bad fps before I oc'd my cpu but now the game is most of the time playable with some areas in maps that have performance issues, but I play with lowest graphic settings and 1680*1050 resolution with antialiasis on. My system is:

    Intel i7 930 @ 3.5 GHz
    Asus P6T Deluxe V2
    AMD Radeon 5850
    12 GB ram running at some weird clock 13xx MHz
    and game is installed on SSD drive for faster loading times

    This system is 2 years old already so should be pretty cheap nowadays and very good gaming computer otherwise imo, just not enough for NS2 at stock speeds.
  • Visor1Visor1 Join Date: 2012-01-13 Member: 140300Members
    edited December 2012
    I never go below 60fps on 16 player servers. I use the following:

    IB i5k CPU @ 4.2 (you won't need to overlock this high since most of the time I'm at 80fps in combat)
    560ti overclocked
    standard hdd
    8gig of ram @ 2133
    asrock extreme 6

    There isn't anything overly expensive in that setup you'll just need a decent case so you can overclock.
  • MaximumSquidMaximumSquid Join Date: 2010-07-20 Member: 72593Members
    edited December 2012
    <u><b>godrifle:</b></u>

    Slickdeals had a crazy cheap barebones gaming rig posted a few hours ago. . .

    Unfortunately it looks like it has expired, but I'm sure there will be more as we roll into the holidays

    Source:
    <a href="http://slickdeals.net/permadeal/85068" target="_blank">http://slickdeals.net/permadeal/85068</a>

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    <u><b>joederp:</b></u>

    Barebones usually means that you add to the system to optimize it further
    The CPU should be better than what I'm currently using so shouldn't be an issue so long as you match it up with a nice graphics card

    -
  • joederpjoederp Join Date: 2012-11-02 Member: 165992Members
    I was getting BAD FPS on my old system, an amd phenom 9150 x4 @ 2ghz, 8gb ram and a Radeon HD 6850 1gb.

    I JUST finished upgrading my motherboard, ram and cpu, and never see FPS drop below 40-60 even during heavy combat. Early game FPS is 140+ (who cares about that). I play 1600 x 900 with everything at the highest detail except I have ambient occlusion off as it really messed with my ability to see clearly (preference). Here are my specs:

    Mobo: ASUS M5A97 LE Rev 2.0 AM3+
    CPU: AMD FX 8320 Vishera @ stock speeds (3.5ghz up to 4.0 depending on load)
    Ram: 8gb gskill "sniper" 1866 mhz
    Video: Radeon HD 6850 1gb

    I have no bothered to OC yet as my system handles this game no problem now. And this system will cost significantly less to build than the comparable Intel setup.
    Intel fan boys will tell you AMD can't handle this game but it's my belief that its the older core AMD CPUs that seem to have problems, the "Bulldozer" core or 8150 for example. I see a lot of people with those chips claiming to see slow-downs. The newer style, Vishera AKA "Piledriver" are seemingly much better. Personally I am loving it!

    CPU + MOBO + Ram cost me about $300 total after some rebates. You could save a little by going with a cheaper AM3+ motherboard but I wouldn't suggest it - with motherboards you usually get what you pay for both in terms of reliability and performance.
  • joederpjoederp Join Date: 2012-11-02 Member: 165992Members
    <!--quoteo(post=2042175:date=Dec 8 2012, 05:35 PM:name=MaximumSquid)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MaximumSquid @ Dec 8 2012, 05:35 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2042175"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><u><b>godrifle:</b></u>

    Slickdeals had a crazy cheap barebones gaming rig posted a few hours ago. . .

    Unfortunately it looks like it has expired, but I'm sure there will be more as we roll into the holidays

    Source:
    <a href="http://slickdeals.net/permadeal/85068" target="_blank">http://slickdeals.net/permadeal/85068</a><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Thats a good deal for sure but I'm not sure that would maintain 30fps or better at all times, unless you overclocked it quite a bit.
  • NeokenNeoken Bruges, Belgium Join Date: 2004-03-20 Member: 27447Members, NS2 Playtester, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Silver, Subnautica Playtester
    edited December 2012
    i5-2500K
    GTX560 Ti
    8 GB RAM

    Should be good value for money and run the game at 30 fps min. As long as you don't turn settings to max.
  • NeoRussiaNeoRussia Join Date: 2012-08-04 Member: 154743Members
    edited December 2012
    Most video effects don't cost much if any at all processing power, running on higher settings might actually yield a higher framerate unless you have a really crappy video card or a monster 5ghz+ CPU.

    Also, here <a href="http://youtu.be/5NoONgFEUo8" target="_blank">http://youtu.be/5NoONgFEUo8</a>
  • AnsomAnsom Join Date: 2012-11-03 Member: 166364Members
    By the time you get the rig up, NS2 will be a dead game.
  • NominousNominous Baltimore, MD Join Date: 2012-02-18 Member: 146518Members
    <!--quoteo(post=2042194:date=Dec 8 2012, 06:17 PM:name=joederp)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (joederp @ Dec 8 2012, 06:17 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2042194"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I was getting BAD FPS on my old system, an amd phenom 9150 x4 @ 2ghz, 8gb ram and a Radeon HD 6850 1gb.

    I JUST finished upgrading my motherboard, ram and cpu, and never see FPS drop below 40-60 even during heavy combat. Early game FPS is 140+ (who cares about that). I play 1600 x 900 with everything at the highest detail except I have ambient occlusion off as it really messed with my ability to see clearly (preference). Here are my specs:

    Mobo: ASUS M5A97 LE Rev 2.0 AM3+
    CPU: AMD FX 8320 Vishera @ stock speeds (3.5ghz up to 4.0 depending on load)
    Ram: 8gb gskill "sniper" 1866 mhz
    Video: Radeon HD 6850 1gb

    I have no bothered to OC yet as my system handles this game no problem now. And this system will cost significantly less to build than the comparable Intel setup.
    Intel fan boys will tell you AMD can't handle this game but it's my belief that its the older core AMD CPUs that seem to have problems, the "Bulldozer" core or 8150 for example. I see a lot of people with those chips claiming to see slow-downs. The newer style, Vishera AKA "Piledriver" are seemingly much better. Personally I am loving it!

    CPU + MOBO + Ram cost me about $300 total after some rebates. You could save a little by going with a cheaper AM3+ motherboard but I wouldn't suggest it - with motherboards you usually get what you pay for both in terms of reliability and performance.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I'm curious to see a benchmark chart if you could get around to it sometime. <a href="http://www.unknownworlds.com/ns2/forums/index.php?showtopic=119506&st=80" target="_blank">Here</a> is a good list of guidelines and others' benchmarks for comparison. I was actually thinking of upgrading my old Phenom II X4 830 to a FX-4300, but I gave in and went Intel instead (i5-3570k). I don't regret my purchase one bit, but I'm still curious to see how a Vishera CPU compares.

    @OP: You don't even need a modern CPU to run the game above 30 FPS at all times. Starting from b224, my Deneb dropped below 30 FPS rarely. But if you're a discerning gamer, I doubt you'll be satisfied with 30 FPS for long. Since most monitors have a 60 Hz refresh rate, I think you should save up money and go for a 3570k or similar. Even more reason to if you plan on playing other modern games or if you have a 120 Hz monitor.
  • IronHorseIronHorse Developer, QA Manager, Technical Support & contributor Join Date: 2010-05-08 Member: 71669Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, Forum Moderators, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Subnautica Playtester, Subnautica PT Lead, Pistachionauts
    <!--quoteo(post=2042122:date=Dec 8 2012, 01:19 PM:name=pRiNcEkAhUnA)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pRiNcEkAhUnA @ Dec 8 2012, 01:19 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2042122"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->HahahAhahaha. Good request. That is something us gamers on some of the best hardware cannot achieve.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Not trying to stoke the fire here, but i have a 3, (almost 4) year old i7 920 thats overclocked and i never hit 30 fps, even if its endgame with 20 people in a room.
    Just saying.. you dont need the best of hardware to meet that standard.. 30 fps isn't much. Now if you said 60 fps minimum, well, that's a different story.
    Does anyone with "best hardware" out there today ever honestly dip below 30 fps??
  • rhombusrhombus Lerk Queen Join Date: 2011-06-23 Member: 106055Members, Constellation, Squad Five Blue
    <!--quoteo(post=2042247:date=Dec 8 2012, 09:06 PM:name=ironhorse)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ironhorse @ Dec 8 2012, 09:06 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2042247"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Not trying to stoke the fire here, but i have a 3, (almost 4) year old i7 920 thats overclocked and i never hit 30 fps, even if its endgame with 20 people in a room.
    Just saying.. you dont need the best of hardware to meet that standard.. 30 fps isn't much. Now if you said 60 fps minimum, well, that's a different story.
    Does anyone with "best hardware" out there today ever honestly dip below 30 fps??<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->


    Only when khammander hits the crazy heal button on 5+ crags at once.
  • IronHorseIronHorse Developer, QA Manager, Technical Support & contributor Join Date: 2010-05-08 Member: 71669Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, Forum Moderators, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Subnautica Playtester, Subnautica PT Lead, Pistachionauts
    Why would a commander have 5 crags? They stack only up to 3?
    Also do you have "best hardware" ? I know lerk nest did. :-P
  • pendelum5pendelum5 Join Date: 2012-10-29 Member: 164317Members
    edited December 2012
    *My rig*
    CPU: Q6600 @ 3.0 GHz
    RAM: 4GB DDR2
    GPU: GTX 460

    *My performance*
    Decent. I can run the game at minimal settings (lowest possible for all graphics settings @ 1680x1050) and get 60 frames for the majority of the gameplay. Once things start to get hectic (multiple enemies, structures, attacks, effects, explosions, ragdolls etc) my FPS can drop to around 15-20, but it rarely dips below that unless I'm on a 24-man server. I really need to get an i5, this 5-year old LGA 775 is starting to show its age.
  • ritualsacrificeritualsacrifice Join Date: 2012-11-14 Member: 171148Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--quoteo(post=2042212:date=Dec 8 2012, 04:15 PM:name=Neoken)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Neoken @ Dec 8 2012, 04:15 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2042212"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->i5-2500K
    GTX560 Ti
    8 GB RAM

    Should be good value for money and run the game at 30 fps min. As long as you don't turn settings to max.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    That's the exact rig I run the game on and it frequently dips below 30 fps late game. It gets 40-80 early game, and it's pretty all over the place throughout the game. Would absolutely not recommend this setup. Turning the graphics from max to min basically makes no difference on this rig either.. max you get 20-60 frames, min you get 40-80 but if there's a lot of ###### going on it might dip down as low as 20 from time to time. That's because of dumb ###### like tons of lerk spores and flamethrowers going off at the same time or something like that.
  • ScardyBobScardyBob ScardyBob Join Date: 2009-11-25 Member: 69528Forum Admins, Forum Moderators, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow
    edited December 2012
    Tom's Hardware's <a href="http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/How-To,4/Build-Your-Own,16/" target="_blank">System Builder Marathon</a>'s are a great place to search for the best comps within budgets. Using some of their $500/650 builds as a base, I put together this pretty solid system for $725 ($657 after combo deals/MIR): <a href="http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ryHI" target="_blank">http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ryHI</a>

    With that Cooler Master TPC 812 you could easily get a 4.0-4.5 GHz overclock.

    For comparison, my rig is a:
    <!--c1--><div class='codetop'>CODE</div><div class='codemain'><!--ec1-->Intel i5 2600k @4.8GHz
    AMD HD 6950
    16GB RAM<!--c2--></div><!--ec2-->
    And my latest benchmark on Dec 4th (using Fraps) gave a
    Min = 46fps
    Max = 112fps
    Avg = 73fps
  • joederpjoederp Join Date: 2012-11-02 Member: 165992Members
    <!--quoteo(post=2042234:date=Dec 8 2012, 08:13 PM:name=Karnaj)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Karnaj @ Dec 8 2012, 08:13 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2042234"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I'm curious to see a benchmark chart if you could get around to it sometime. <a href="http://www.unknownworlds.com/ns2/forums/index.php?showtopic=119506&st=80" target="_blank">Here</a> is a good list of guidelines and others' benchmarks for comparison. I was actually thinking of upgrading my old Phenom II X4 830 to a FX-4300, but I gave in and went Intel instead (i5-3570k). I don't regret my purchase one bit, but I'm still curious to see how a Vishera CPU compares.

    @OP: You don't even need a modern CPU to run the game above 30 FPS at all times. Starting from b224, my Deneb dropped below 30 FPS rarely. But if you're a discerning gamer, I doubt you'll be satisfied with 30 FPS for long. Since most monitors have a 60 Hz refresh rate, I think you should save up money and go for a 3570k or similar. Even more reason to if you plan on playing other modern games or if you have a 120 Hz monitor.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    You got it. I'll do that now and post my results to that thread shortly.
  • piedriverpiedriver Join Date: 2009-12-17 Member: 69695Members
    edited December 2012
    Hi,
    I'm not sure exactly what FPS i get in game, but i <u>never</u> lag in-game, even in the heaviest hostile engagements. All settings at maximum, no exceptions.
    So for your consideration, these are my machine specs:

    i7 980 3.33Ghz (6 scores, 12 threads)
    12gig DDR3 RAM 1.333Ghz
    Motherboard Make - ASUSTek Computer Inc
    Motherboard Model - P6X58D-E
    ATI Radeon HD 6950 (2gb) on a 22" monitor (max resolution)
    Western Digital : 1 TB Sata3 HDD @ 7600RPM 32MB cache

    Windows Index score. Windows 7 Professional (64-bit)
    Processor - 7.8 || RAM - 7.8 || Graphics - 7.8 || Gaming Graphics 7.8 || primary Hard Disk - 5.9
    --
    Everything stated+recorded here is at stock speeds. However, overclocking the CPU and GPU increases each of the above scores by .1

    cost: $1,009.00

    Good Luck! :)
  • IronHorseIronHorse Developer, QA Manager, Technical Support & contributor Join Date: 2010-05-08 Member: 71669Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, Forum Moderators, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Subnautica Playtester, Subnautica PT Lead, Pistachionauts
    edited December 2012
    <!--quoteo(post=2042263:date=Dec 8 2012, 07:14 PM:name=ritualsacrifice)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ritualsacrifice @ Dec 8 2012, 07:14 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2042263"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->i5-2500K
    GTX560 Ti
    8 GB RAM
    That's the exact rig I run the game on and it frequently dips below 30 fps late game. It gets 40-80 early game,<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I think you should seek the tech support forums and do some troubleshooting.. that seems severely off.. are you OCing out of curiosity?
    Do you have vsync or AO enabled?
  • ritualsacrificeritualsacrifice Join Date: 2012-11-14 Member: 171148Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--quoteo(post=2042272:date=Dec 8 2012, 07:51 PM:name=ironhorse)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ironhorse @ Dec 8 2012, 07:51 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2042272"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I think you should seek the tech support forums and do some troubleshooting.. that seems severely off.. are you OCing out of curiosity?
    Do you have vsync or AO enabled?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    *facepalm*

    I'm just being dumb. I have a 2320, not a 2500. I guess I just rounded up in my head or something, idk. But no, no overclock. I heard that wasn't a good idea for the 2320.
  • NeoRussiaNeoRussia Join Date: 2012-08-04 Member: 154743Members
    edited December 2012
    <!--quoteo(post=2042257:date=Dec 8 2012, 10:53 PM:name=pendelum5)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pendelum5 @ Dec 8 2012, 10:53 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2042257"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->*My rig*
    CPU: Q6600 @ 3.0 GHz
    RAM: 4GB DDR2
    GPU: GTX 460

    *My performance*
    Decent. I can run the game at minimal settings (lowest possible for all graphics settings @ 1680x1050) and get 60 frames for the majority of the gameplay. Once things start to get hectic (multiple enemies, structures, attacks, effects, explosions, ragdolls etc) my FPS can drop to around 15-20, but it rarely dips below that unless I'm on a 24-man server. I really need to get an i5, this 5-year old LGA 775 is starting to show its age.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I've got

    Q6600 @3.4ghz
    4GB DDR2
    GTX 460 1GB

    fps never goes below 30. About 70 early game, 50 mid game. My Q6600 can easilly take 3.8ghz if I had proper cooling. Maxed out or not doesn't matter for fps, I run high everything, 1920x1080.
  • xtcmenxtcmen Join Date: 2004-04-20 Member: 28040Members, Squad Five Blue
    <!--quoteo(post=2042283:date=Dec 9 2012, 12:53 AM:name=NeoRussia)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NeoRussia @ Dec 9 2012, 12:53 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2042283"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I've got

    Q6600 @3.4ghz
    4GB DDR2
    GTX 460 1GB

    fps never goes below 30. About 70 early game, 50 mid game. My Q6600 can easilly take 3.8ghz if I had proper cooling.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Then why do you complain so much about having low fps???? LOL
  • rmbrown09rmbrown09 Join Date: 2012-10-17 Member: 162592Members
    edited December 2012
    Was in a server today where a kid was trying to say that he had everything maxed at 1080p with a single 680 and a 3930k and never went below 100FPS. I promptly called him on his bull######. He kept insisting though. Lol'd.
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