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Lazerus · December 2002

<div class="IPBDescription">very rough layout...</div> Ok here is a more detailed version of my layout. The scales are still a little off.. but it should give a better idea of my intentions...

merry xmas

-Lazerus

(next page for the image)

BiTMAP · December 2002

that map lacks any real depth, it would be over in 2 minutes! (for the aliens too)

Lazerus · December 2002

As I said its not to scale! <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='tounge.gif'>

.. those hallways are way too wide, and the final rooms are going to beshaped very differently. ..

thanks for the constructive feedback though <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='tounge.gif'>

BiTMAP · December 2002

no what i mean is, basicly there is no paths, you just hop in and run to the hives in the next room.

Lazerus · December 2002

ok.. I see your point... But as the post says its a "very rough layout"... The paths leading to the different hives will be much smaller then they apear in the map, with other conduits etc leading in to them...

Maybe I shouldnt have even bothered posting that pic.. it doesnt really illustrate my plans very well...

I didnt have much time to throw it together, so its pretty incomplete...

for example, the big areas (such as resivoir hive) that you see in the map will be broken down in to smaller rooms, and hallways, tunnels etc...

evoLvingeviL · December 2002

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Lazerus @ Dec 23 2002, 03:45 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Maybe I shouldnt have even bothered posting that pic.. it doesnt really illustrate my plans very well...</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
Uh-huh. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='tounge.gif'>

Lazerus · December 2002

hahaha.. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='tounge.gif'>

you just wait.. my map is gunna rule!!! .. you're all just jealous.. hehe

Lazerus · December 2002

ok look im not an idiot.. i wouldnt make a map where you could siege 3 hives from one location.. if your not going to be constructive then dont bother posting.

<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='sad.gif'>

Mercior · December 2002

Well as long as the map doesnt look anything like that picture then I'm sure it'll be great <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='wink.gif'>

evoLvingeviL · December 2002

It's okay Lazerus... don't cry, I was only kidding!

Kidding, sorta... the pic wasn't really informative... but hey, it looked pretty! Yay! <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'>

Awww, it got deleted. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='sad.gif'>

evoLvingeviL · December 2002

'babs', are you READING anything? It seems you're trying to be harsh on poor old Lazerus, who, because his pic was too basic, DELETED the entire design because everyone was being a jerk about it.

Not only is your post misinformed, 'babs', its just plain rude.

C'mon Lazerus, show us what you're made of! Not all of us are obnoxious and mean! Keep on truckin'!

evoLvingeviL · December 2002

Oh, okay. You DID sound pretty harsh. Oh well. Peace.

Anyways, to CLARIFY things, I <i>think</i> the design pic that Lazerus posted was, as it is said in the thread description 'a very rough layout'. Lazerus said a few posts back that the design didn't really illustrate much (except the sections of the map), and didn't show actual ROOMS. Everyone, unfortunately, took the design literally, and Lazerus got sad and deleted it. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='sad.gif'>

Whew.

Lazerus · December 2002

here it is...

Ganonn · December 2002

You've gotta start with something don't you?

Make all 3 hives a long distance from the mall and that solves the general seige location. Add some rooms for flavor and a bit more strategic impact for Kharaa defenses between the mall and resevoir as well, so you don't end up with a long hall between the 2.

And if the marines are supposed to enter by shuttle, make it look kinda like the CC is in the cockpit and there is an airlock between the shuttle and the rest of the station/ship/whatever. Might also make sense to take out the alternative exit from the marines if they are actually entering from some kind of attachment vehicle. I know these things don't really matter, but atmosphere is what makes the original maps so much fun to play.

Always here to help.

Lazerus · December 2002

i should have added that this map is huge.. it doesnt really look it from the pic, but there are about 1000 units between each main area...

my goal is to make a large map that doesnt lag, and also not too large that marines have a disatvantage. (since skulks are faster)

as for the comments about the shuttle.. I have already created a lot of the **obscenity** pit.. its really dark (only light by computer terminals etc... )

one exit is a narrow curving hallway leading to the reception area.. the other is one floor down in the shuttle, which is to load the cargo off of the shuttle..

i may also add a 3rd entrence/exit through some fuel line or somthing connecting the shuttle to the space station...

i dont want the marines to be able to turttle at all...

and dont worry there will be no long hallways <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='wink.gif'>

-Lazerus

evoLvingeviL · December 2002

I'm assuming the layout is still pretty 'rough', but I want to make sure you're keeping in mind that the actual Hive rooms don't have to be that big...

Screenies any time soon?

Lazerus · December 2002

here are some early shots... <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'>

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Lazerus · December 2002

yeah the layout is totally rough.. i tend to take a very detailed aproach to mapping..

evoLvingeviL · December 2002

That last pic is too HUGE (scale it down, buddy), and the floor texture looks kinda not-good.

The rooms seem a little empty, too...

Are these finished shots? Or more 'rough' work? ...just asking. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='tounge.gif'>

Lazerus · December 2002

haha.. everything is rough at this point <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'>

at least im having fun.. and this map should be good once its done.. I think its going to take a couple months at least though...

my new pc should help speed it along though.. 2.5ghz!! <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'>

-Lazerus

Lazerus · December 2002

dont you dare critisize my textureing until you hook me up with that texture back <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='tounge.gif'>

besides, its meant to be a background for a floor grating, alpha texture....

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