Performance issues
frallan123
Join Date: 2012-05-12 Member: 151962Members
Join Date: 2012-05-12 Member: 151962Members
I have FPS problem in this particular game. I believe my computer is pretty good and people with worse computers how are they supposed to play this game? Im running 1920x1080 with every on low and I have 27-50fps in combat and around 50-60 when not. These numbers are based on 5min of gameplay and after 20 minutes when whole map is full with stuff I have around 15-30fps in combat and 45fps outside. I get same FPS when playing with everything on maxed settings. Sometimes the FPS is better but most of the time its like this. The game feel choppy and laggy even though if I manage to have over 60FPS without dropping below. As I said how can people with less powerfull components in their computers manage to play this game at a comfartable FPS? Have I missed something? Is there a FPS fix for this game? I've been playing since the beta and thought it was going to be fixed to full release I guess I was wrong.
My computer have the following hardware
i7 2600k 3.4GHz non OC
MSI GeForce GTX680 2GB non OC
8GB DDR CORSAIR 1333MHz RAM
OCZ AGILITY 3 SSD 128GB I run the game from this harddrive
1TB SAMSUNG for storage
MSI P67A-GD55 Motherboard
My computer have the following hardware
i7 2600k 3.4GHz non OC
MSI GeForce GTX680 2GB non OC
8GB DDR CORSAIR 1333MHz RAM
OCZ AGILITY 3 SSD 128GB I run the game from this harddrive
1TB SAMSUNG for storage
MSI P67A-GD55 Motherboard
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My computer have the following hardware
i7 2600k 3.4GHz non OC
MSI GeForce GTX680 2GB non OC
8GB DDR CORSAIR 1333MHz RAM
OCZ AGILITY 3 SSD 128GB I run the game from this harddrive
1TB SAMSUNG for storage
MSI P67A-GD55 Motherboard<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
That performance is way too low. Make sure you have the latest drivers.
To give you perspective, I'm running:
Gigabyte G33m-D22r mobo
Core 2 Quad Q9300
GTX460 768mb (30%+ OC) in game res 1280x768
8gb ddr2
[basically, some old @$$ gear!]
...And I'm averaging 80+ fps with my only drops being in a hive/base during intense combat.
I would suggest the following in game settings:
-FIRST: disable/lower ALL extras in the graphics menu
- now observe the FPS counter on the upper right
-switch on graphics feature 1 by 1 and see what drops the FPS counter by a large amount
-YOUR GOAL: find a set of settings that leaves the FPS counter at or above 100fps!
For me, the most GPU "punishing" features are Shadows, Infestation, Ambien Occlusion, and bloom. So, I keep these low or off.
YMMV and good luck
Schmidi
PS: HeatSurge's suggestion is wise as well. you will need to enter BIOS and disable "onboard video" and direct the BIOS to use PCIe for your video card . Also, open your case and make sure your GPU's fan is functioning correctly!
Defrag your HDD (if your game is installed on it)
Launch taskmanager and check your processes. If more than 10% of the open services and processes are background dredgeware like superfluous audio control panels, motherboard-packaged bloatware, third-party tray software etc.
Of course, your computer may just be overheating. Either your GPU or CPU overheating would massively impact your performance. Check that your coolers are running like they should, that they are connected to the die surface or the GPU/ CPU well, both that they're seated properly and well-covered in thermal paste.
Then, you know, make sure it's not choking on dust.
----------------BY THE WAY------------------
How old is that SSD? I just saw you run the game from it. Do you use it as a gaming drive? How many times have you installed/uninstalled to it, and more importantly, how often does texture swapping happen from it? (Meaning, how many hours has it been used for HD gaming) AND OH THE HORROR: Do you use it as BOTH a gaming and windows drive???
I'm starting to think this is your failing component. SSDs are not tolerant of always being read from/ written to, and usually they will fail after a year if they are 'abused'.
Defrag your HDD (if your game is installed on it)<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
since when is it recommended to defrag an ssd
I'll upload printscreens later on, gonna reflash bios incase if something causing an error. Im using Windows 7 64bit
<!--quoteo(post=2037331:date=Nov 29 2012, 10:38 AM:name=DJSchmidi)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DJSchmidi @ Nov 29 2012, 10:38 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2037331"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->yeah, you have a nice setup, and your numbers should be at least 50% higher or more. I would wager its a mix of both your in game settings and potentially system/windows settings causing some issues.
To give you perspective, I'm running:
Gigabyte G33m-D22r mobo
Core 2 Quad Q9300
GTX460 768mb (30%+ OC) in game res 1280x768
8gb ddr2
[basically, some old @$$ gear!]
...And I'm averaging 80+ fps with my only drops being in a hive/base during intense combat.
I would suggest the following in game settings:
-FIRST: disable/lower ALL extras in the graphics menu
- now observe the FPS counter on the upper right
-switch on graphics feature 1 by 1 and see what drops the FPS counter by a large amount
-YOUR GOAL: find a set of settings that leaves the FPS counter at or above 100fps!
For me, the most GPU "punishing" features are Shadows, Infestation, Ambien Occlusion, and bloom. So, I keep these low or off.
YMMV and good luck
Schmidi
PS: HeatSurge's suggestion is wise as well. you will need to enter BIOS and disable "onboard video" and direct the BIOS to use PCIe for your video card . Also, open your case and make sure your GPU's fan is functioning correctly!<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Its not overheating the GPU is at 60 degree and CPU is around 45degree. I dont think I have that option in my motherboard but I will check.
<!--quoteo(post=2037336:date=Nov 29 2012, 10:44 AM:name=Metal Handkerchief)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Metal Handkerchief @ Nov 29 2012, 10:44 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2037336"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Sounds like you are either missing drivers, or your computer is jam-packed with bloatware, spyware, viruses and/or fragmented space. Unfortunately, not even bleeding edge equipment can guard against user incompetence.
Defrag your HDD (if your game is installed on it)
Launch taskmanager and check your processes. If more than 10% of the open services and processes are background dredgeware like superfluous audio control panels, motherboard-packaged bloatware, third-party tray software etc.
Of course, your computer may just be overheating. Either your GPU or CPU overheating would massively impact your performance. Check that your coolers are running like they should, that they are connected to the die surface or the GPU/ CPU well, both that they're seated properly and well-covered in thermal paste.
Then, you know, make sure it's not choking on dust.
----------------BY THE WAY------------------
How old is that SSD? I just saw you run the game from it. Do you use it as a gaming drive? How many times have you installed/uninstalled to it, and more importantly, how often does texture swapping happen from it? (Meaning, how many hours has it been used for HD gaming) AND OH THE HORROR: Do you use it as BOTH a gaming and windows drive???
I'm starting to think this is your failing component. SSDs are not tolerant of always being read from/ written to, and usually they will fail after a year if they are 'abused'.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
The SSD is few months old and Ive reinstalled windows 7 twice on it using the OCZ format tool. Ive only run NS2 around 20hours on it and yes its also windows 7 on it. I moved the game for faster loading screen which is working great. I have recently installed ESET NOD32 and I havent found any spyware or viruses.
<!--quoteo(post=2037339:date=Nov 29 2012, 10:47 AM:name=DJSchmidi)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DJSchmidi @ Nov 29 2012, 10:47 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2037339"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Well, you might try dropping your resolution. I just tried 1920x1080 and it dropped my FPS by 60%! It honestly doesn't look half bad at lower res's.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I can try that but I would rather like to play on 1920x1080 :)
Same drivers I'm on. That should be fine. Op this doesn't make any sense you and I have nearly identical systems. For reference I get 60 fps minimum almost always oh high at 2560x1440. At 1920 with single 680 you should be getting near the same on max. Should be blowing it out of the water on low.
<!--quoteo(post=2037326:date=Nov 29 2012, 11:31 AM:name=HeatSurge)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (HeatSurge @ Nov 29 2012, 11:31 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2037326"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->This is pretty horrendous for that system. You might gain a little bit by OCing that CPU (it's made for OCing, just put it at 4.4-4.6 at least), but even without OC you should be getting way above 15 fps on lowest all. Does the computer have more than 1 video card? Maybe it's using the other one if yes? Post CPU and GPU utilization % screenshots (with msi afterburner and task manager) maybe? Also what windows are you using?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
The 2600k needs a voltage increase for anything above about 4.4 unless you have a golden chip.
type r_stats in console. right below fps there will be "X ms waiting for GPU"
if X > 0, yout GPU is the bottleneck (or there is something odd with your GPU, cause I have a HD7870 and play really smooth even at 1080p)
else your CPU is the bottleneck
type r_stats in console. right below fps there will be "X ms waiting for GPU"
if X > 0, yout GPU is the bottleneck (or there is something odd with your GPU, cause I have a HD7870 and play really smooth even at 1080p)
else your CPU is the bottleneck<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Here's a picture on an empty server
<img src="http://i.imgur.com/KjT1u.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />
edit: by changing from everything on HIGH to low it was 0 ms waiting for GPU and then changing back it was the same. But if I start game with everything on high its around 4-5ms
try to disable all the mods and try again. (in the main menu -> mods -> active = no to all)
try to disable all the mods and try again. (in the main menu -> mods -> active = no to all)<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yea no difference. My friend who have the simular computer as me but a i7 3770k instead is having 40-60fps more than me. I'll try to OC my CPU if its really necesarry be able to run this game.
The 3770k is just the ivy bridge brother of the 2600k. In benchmarks it does just as well or worse in some cases as the 2600k. You basically have he same processor, it just sounds like his system is performing the way yours should be.
I do recommend overclocking though, it actually overclocks better than the 3770k will too so at the top end it will edge it out.
Even at stock clocks though the 2600k can take it: see here <a href="http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/551?vs=287" target="_blank">http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/551?vs=287</a>
tldr; something else is wrong with your system.
So check your memory and mainboard operating voltages. To ensure they are compatible.
To make this reply actually productive, go and OC your CPU. Since the game is largely CPU-bound, you should see a large performance increase.
Granted my system is lower spec, but I manage...
anyone that complains about having 25fps should try playing on my system :)
My system is pretty beefy too really:
i7 2600k OC'ed to 4.6ghz (watercooled so stays under 25c)
16gb DDR3 1866mhz Ram
2x GTX 680
128gb SSD For OS
2x 2 TB HDD's in raid 0 for most game storage
In all fairness the game is pretty much a solid 150+fps when i'm not jumping around as a skulk.
I wouldn't say this is "solved", your computer should be able to handle games of this quality 10x over and over again. would like to hear dev input on this
Q6600 @3.6ghz (stock 2.4ghz) - runs 70-90c using default cooler - stable
GTX460 1GB @ 725 MHz core clock - stable
Max settings other than no shadows or atmospherics, 1920x1080 @120hz.
0ms waiting for GPU, never higher.
40-80 lategame minimum is still around 30 though when infestation is ###### everywhere
65-100 early game
Notable increase in hitregistry as well.
Still having stupid stuttering issues when texture resolution is set medium or higher, 1GB VRAM is probably not enough for this terribly optimized engine as there is no proper texture streaming.
lua <--> C++
I get between 40 and 70 fps.
here are my settings: <a href="http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=111282067" target="_blank">http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/file...s/?id=111282067</a>
FPs screenies <a href="http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=111281464" target="_blank">http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/file...s/?id=111281464</a> <a href="http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=111282444" target="_blank">http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/file...s/?id=111282444</a>
combat drops a little if there are spores and bile but I don't drop below 40.
I have a mild OC on my system and I do have an SSD
965 phenom BE
Evga gtx 470
8g corsair 2000 ram
Old western digital 300g 7200rpm HDD
No OC, all stock, all settings on low w/ 1200+ resolution and I get 140 ish fps in menu and 70-80 in game under normal combat and map travel conditions, late game and bigger battles drop it 20 or so.
Edit: I try to avoid 12v12 counter strike NS2 pubs... No more than 10v10 for me
AMD FX 6200 (HexaCore) 6 x 3.84 Ghz
GPU: Asus 560 GTX 1 GB
4 GB RAM ( 1866 Mhz) Corsair
Mainboard Asus M5A97 Pro
fps: 30-60 in game BUT ALWAYS LAGG ( i cant play FULL LOW SETTINGS & HIGH SETTINGS) and i cant play because the game is freeze and still Image or game is run normally and again lagg and lagg but not internet lagg, GAME LAGG fps issues and etc... why why why? all games run FULL NORMAL but only this game not... and no one can say that this must be a scam because the 4 GHz...
unoptimazet game, fix itt plz
At least ten times during the last couple of weeks, on separate occasions, have i or someone else in-game mentioned how bad the performance is although they have very powerful PCs. And <u>every single time</u> has there been a surprised reply from one or more players who say that they have excellent performance with PCs that cost a third as much.
Either UWE secretly made the NS2 engine only work well with mid-range hardware in some attempt to gain revenge on people who could afford much better systems than they, or this probably is as huge a mystery to their customers as it is to them. Makes no sense whatsoever that software would work much slower on much better hardware. And much less so if it wasn't on purpose!
I've never heard of a game that forced you to <i>downgrade</i> your PC in order to be playable! ;) It's seriously embarrassing to have friends come over and watch the ugly, low-res, "FPS-capped" game that is NS2 when you have a computer that costs more than their car.
One idea for a thread that i wish they'd start and sticky is one where they ask people with good performance in NS2 to post their specs, so we could make a database of what configurations that actually work.