Aliens underpowered
brunoviek
Join Date: 2012-11-10 Member: 169148Members
Join Date: 2012-11-10 Member: 169148Members
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NS2 and NS1 are very very different games, and NS2 has some flaws, but it's still definitely worth the $25
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For the record, we had another Onos and that was 16 minutes into the game.
NS2 and NS1 are very very different games, and NS2 has some flaws, but it's still definitely worth the $25<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
This.
NS2 is good, a lot of fun, but still needs more polish.
Honestly, I think that blink should be an innate skill for fades, but I don't think it makes any difference.
I am rather new to the game but still I can't count how many times the game dragged on for 20+ minutes when marine were defending their last command center (with only one res point). This really tells us something, doesn't it?
IMHO marines have some "SPAMSPAMSPAMSPAM" strategies that doesn't make the game fun nor interesting, and can be abused to prolong the game/destroy the lategame.
The first strategy coming to my mind is granade spamming when difending your base. It's not like you are only throwing granades into halleys, you can also throw them into your own base when you are getting overrun. This makes it impossible for smaller aliens to survive more than one or two seconds when you are going for the final push. If you get lucky enough to take one nader down, well someone else will pick up the launcher and proceed with the granade barrage. I would love to see granades being the only weapon dealing friendly fire damage (not 100% ofc, maybe something from 10 to 25%). This would prevent spamming granades when your base is attacked, or at least it would make it not as much effective.
A second "spamming" strategy IMO is the mass MAC strategy. When they are welding an exo, my onos is totally screwed: I can't target the exo. No matter what, I will be attacking the stupid macs. I might be doing something wrong for sure, but this really looks a cheap trick to me.
Thoughts?
A skilled marine team will come out on top most the time against a skilled Alien team.
A skilled marine team will come out on top most the time against a skilled Alien team.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Marines got a few significant nerfs compared to NS1, res towers take twice the time to build, Heavy armor can't phase or beacon, obs requires the armory to be build first, and all guns have to be researched before they can be used or dropped. There is no HMG, the onos is godly now, you don't need gorges to babysit building structures anymore, and alien Tres usage allows for some crazy scenarios...
So yeah, things sound bad when you very selectively only list the changes that you personally dislike.
Balance is about as unequal as it was in NS1.
So yeah, things sound bad when you very selectively only list the changes that you personally dislike.
Balance is about as unequal as it was in NS1.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I feel like they balanced the wrong things ? Like the increase build time for RTs and the ~45 seconds to remake a power node is just not fun for anyone. Or the Alien Spawn system, why is it when I have 24 eggs I still have to wait 12 seconds to spawn and then more time to evolve again ? Too much waiting in my opinion on both Marines and Aliens.
Imo, Skulk and Fade could use some more work with a slight buff to Lerk survivability, making them a bit more resistant to shotguns. Skulk wall jumping increased (heard that it's being tweaked), Skulk slight armor increase, a Fade HP boost and a bit more damage, 4 swipes to take out a 3/3 marine is pretty rough in a team game and most marines aren't going to be alone or far from a base with phase gates everywhere.
The only aspects of marines that I think totally ###### on aliens is the cost effectiveness of the shotgun and jetpacks. 25 res for shotty and 20 for jetpack would be better. Atm, it seems like shotgun does pretty well against anything and that isn't good. GL are weak in melee, flamethrowers aren't very good vs onos or lerks, LMG is an all-purpose weapon, Exo is weak when unsupported but shotguns are good everywhere. Jetpacks seem to have zero recharge, it's like being able to blink across the map almost non-stop.
Not to say Aliens aren't OP in some areas but they are more recognizably weaker in certain periods and mechanics.
I am rather new to the game but still I can't count how many times the game dragged on for 20+ minutes when marine were defending their last command center (with only one res point). This really tells us something, doesn't it?
IMHO marines have some "SPAMSPAMSPAMSPAM" strategies that doesn't make the game fun nor interesting, and can be abused to prolong the game/destroy the lategame.
The first strategy coming to my mind is granade spamming when difending your base. It's not like you are only throwing granades into halleys, you can also throw them into your own base when you are getting overrun. This makes it impossible for smaller aliens to survive more than one or two seconds when you are going for the final push. If you get lucky enough to take one nader down, well someone else will pick up the launcher and proceed with the granade barrage. I would love to see granades being the only weapon dealing friendly fire damage (not 100% ofc, maybe something from 10 to 25%). This would prevent spamming granades when your base is attacked, or at least it would make it not as much effective.
A second "spamming" strategy IMO is the mass MAC strategy. When they are welding an exo, my onos is totally screwed: I can't target the exo. No matter what, I will be attacking the stupid macs. I might be doing something wrong for sure, but this really looks a cheap trick to me.
Thoughts?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
1st: Turning on friendly fire is a bad idea. The marines shouldn't have to hurt themselves in order for the aliens to win. Currently, the best counter I can think of for this strategy is destroy the armory so they can't get ammo for recycled weapons. Just hope the marine com isn't feeling generous and starts handing out spare ammo packs to make up for it.
2nd: Bile bomb.
Marine using the same attacks over and over is pretty annoying and boring to play against; I agree. I wish marines had more options to them so that they would have more reasons to mix up tactics, but the aliens could use more variety too. I don't think I've seen a single win for the aliens that doesn't rely on onos or early base rushing.