Worse Game-Engine i've yet to play on.

th0msth0ms Join Date: 2012-10-31 Member: 165232Members
<div class="IPBDescription">CPU, FPS LAG.</div>I've to admit that this is possibly the worse programmed engine i've ever played on.. The idea of this game is so brilliant and good, and the first 10 min of the games runs very smoothly and i'm having so much fun, but after that i run around with spikes all the way down to 15fps when i blink around as fade..

I know i don't have the newest pc etc:
Quad Core 6600 overlocked to 2.8ghz, a nvidia 460gtx, 4gb ram.


But if i can play BF3 on 32v32 server with every setting on HIGH ... while tanks, helicopters, jets, jeeps and infantry shoots around in this HUGE map, without having any GPU or CPU fps problems AT ALL ...!!!!!

How can an engine be so badly programmed that i get fps problems on my cpu on a 16player server, fighting in a narrow corridor ?!?! ...
I'm so disappointed in the devs for doing such poor job, being a small private company or not, using that much time on a game and they fail do deliver the most important part in first-person shooters... Which is Frames per second! If you don't have a good fps, then you're done, you can't keep up and the fun goes away.


I hope, that the developers is gonna fix this, i can play any other game made on a source engine with everything on high and 70-80fps even with 10 peoples shooting at eachother pointblank range and no fps spikes at all.... And i know people got better pc specs than me and also experience this problem.

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  • ScubboScubbo Join Date: 2012-10-03 Member: 161364Members
    edited October 2012
    there is about 100 million dollars difference in the titles development from bf3 ;\
  • ShEpShEp Join Date: 2010-07-20 Member: 72597Members
    Wow, now there's a constructive post!
  • TalesinTalesin Our own little well of hate Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7710NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators
    Performance issues for certain setups are a known concern, and being worked on actively.
    Transferring to Tech Support; there may be other options to help optimize your system to handle a modern game more effectively, if outside of the known issues being worked on.

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  • antacidantacid Join Date: 2007-08-07 Member: 61821Members, NS2 Playtester
    edited October 2012
    NS2 is heavily reliant on your processor... And you have a pretty crappy processor.

    For example, I also have a 460 and 4 gigs of ram, but I use a 3.6ghz AMD955 quad core, and NS2 runs like butter.
  • rmbrown09rmbrown09 Join Date: 2012-10-17 Member: 162592Members
    I agree. The bad optimization is scaring away players. I have two friends that have played the game on my system, both think it is an absolute blast. I play on 2560x1440 with everything maxed and get anywhere from 40 - 70 fps.

    The problem is this thing eats through games like BF3 on ultra without ever dropping below 60fps. The fact that this game has become the only in my library to make this machine stutter makes them think they can't get it to run on their laptops at all. So they have decided not to buy the game because they think it will be a waste of $25. I am sure other players love the game but with slower system can't truly enjoy the game like this and will stop playing.
  • th0msth0ms Join Date: 2012-10-31 Member: 165232Members
    I doubt there is anything to be done, i play any modern games effectively with my system specs, except for NS2.
    If its CPU fps lag, only thing u can do is waiting for developers to fix their game.

    I can only imagine the frustration to everyone who bought this game with worse system specs than i have. Luckily got this game for free.
  • th0msth0ms Join Date: 2012-10-31 Member: 165232Members
    edited October 2012
    <!--quoteo(post=2003727:date=Nov 1 2012, 01:49 AM:name=antacid)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (antacid @ Nov 1 2012, 01:49 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2003727"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->NS2 is heavily reliant on your processor....<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Yes, then what you're saying is, its badly programmed. Look at the graphics and etc compared to battle field 3 .. BF3 runs flawless on my pc, NEVER any fps spikes...

    If a game that big can run smoothly on my pc specs, then this game is bad programmed.
  • m42m42 Join Date: 2012-03-01 Member: 147923Members
    edited October 2012
    Not only that, but the games mentioned are built on engines several years old that have been refined over and over. Of course those are going to run better. Eventually, you have to upgrade your computer. Asking to run a game on a brand new engine to run completely smooth on a processor that's at least 5 years old is a bit much, no? Especially one that's so dependent on the CPU.

    I have a I7-860 oc'ed to 3.7ghz and it runs nicely with everything on high except in extreme situations where i maybe drop to 40 fps.
  • eNakiruheNakiruh Join Date: 2012-10-30 Member: 164758Members
    ITT Crybabies whine that a small developer made a game.

    So how about you donate the thousands of dollars required to optomise this game?

    No??

    Then shut up

    I don't have a beast machine and it runs well enough for me to do well
  • SwiftspearSwiftspear Custim tital Join Date: 2003-10-29 Member: 22097Members
    <!--quoteo(post=2003718:date=Oct 31 2012, 08:42 PM:name=th0ms)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (th0ms @ Oct 31 2012, 08:42 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2003718"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I've to admit that this is possibly the worse programmed engine i've ever played on.. The idea of this game is so brilliant and good, and the first 10 min of the games runs very smoothly and i'm having so much fun, but after that i run around with spikes all the way down to 15fps when i blink around as fade..

    I know i don't have the newest pc etc:
    Quad Core 6600 overlocked to 2.8ghz, a nvidia 460gtx, 4gb ram.


    But if i can play BF3 on 32v32 server with every setting on HIGH ... while tanks, helicopters, jets, jeeps and infantry shoots around in this HUGE map, without having any GPU or CPU fps problems AT ALL ...!!!!!

    How can an engine be so badly programmed that i get fps problems on my cpu on a 16player server, fighting in a narrow corridor ?!?! ...
    I'm so disappointed in the devs for doing such poor job, being a small private company or not, using that much time on a game and they fail do deliver the most important part in first-person shooters... Which is Frames per second! If you don't have a good fps, then you're done, you can't keep up and the fun goes away.


    I hope, that the developers is gonna fix this, i can play any other game made on a source engine with everything on high and 70-80fps even with 10 peoples shooting at eachother pointblank range and no fps spikes at all.... And i know people got better pc specs than me and also experience this problem.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    This isn't made on the source engine.

    I'm running and older CPU than you are, the same ram, and a ######tier nvidia graphics card, and I'm holding 60 fps in NS2 at nearly all times.

    That being said, aside from your GPU, your hardware isn't really all that new. You're not running the kind of machine where you can demand to be able to play on full settings for every new game on the market. 4 years ago, maybe, but not any more.

    Additionally, your battlefield 3 argument is kind of like complaining that you shot holes in your ceiling with an AR-15 because you had played with an airsoft gun before and it didn't put holes in the ceiling. Graphically NS is doing a lot of things BF didn't do. BF was a game written to run on outdated console hardware. It's not the pinochle of astonishing modern graphics technology.

    Finally, give credit where credit is due. You're comparing a 20-60 million dollar game to a game a couple guys put together mostly in their basement. There are probably a bunch of optimizations that could be done to NS2, but it's far from slow or ugly all things considered!

    I'd hire Max in a heartbeat. He literally did something most people in the games industry would tell you is impossible.
  • th0msth0ms Join Date: 2012-10-31 Member: 165232Members
    edited October 2012
    <!--quoteo(post=2003746:date=Nov 1 2012, 02:02 AM:name=eNakiruh)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (eNakiruh @ Nov 1 2012, 02:02 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2003746"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->ITT Crybabies whine that a small developer made a game.

    So how about you donate the thousands of dollars required to optomise this game?

    No??

    Then shut up

    I don't have a beast machine and it runs well enough for me to do well<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    With this many copies sold, nr 1 on steam etc .. And you say i should donate to get an engine that isn't badly programmed? You must be high as a kite right now.
    Obviously you don't understand the point of this. There are so many who are used to their pc specs to be able to run fps games with even better graphics and 10x largers maps without any problems at all. Then they WASTE their money on this game.. And have to buy a new pc in order to play it smoothly. Why should we donate thousands of dollars to 'optimize' a game, which should be working from start.
  • th0msth0ms Join Date: 2012-10-31 Member: 165232Members
    <!--quoteo(post=2003749:date=Nov 1 2012, 02:03 AM:name=Swiftspear)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Swiftspear @ Nov 1 2012, 02:03 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2003749"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->This isn't made on the source engine.

    I'm running and older CPU than you are, the same ram, and a ######tier nvidia graphics card, and I'm holding 60 fps in NS2 at nearly all times.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Why are you defending them?, you say you have worse pc specs than me, and yet you run 60fps all the time.. Thats another point at a badly programmed game, that makes some specs play worse on this engine...
  • SwiftspearSwiftspear Custim tital Join Date: 2003-10-29 Member: 22097Members
    <!--quoteo(post=2003736:date=Oct 31 2012, 08:57 PM:name=th0ms)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (th0ms @ Oct 31 2012, 08:57 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2003736"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Yes, then what you're saying is, its badly programmed. Look at the graphics and etc compared to battle field 3 .. BF3 runs flawless on my pc, NEVER any fps spikes...

    If a game that big can run smoothly on my pc specs, then this game is bad programmed.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yes, NS2 is badly programmed in the same way a race car built by some guy in his backyard for $100,000 that can only achieve 90% of the top speed of Bugatti Veyron Super Sport is badly built.
  • WheeeeWheeee Join Date: 2003-02-18 Member: 13713Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    you realize that you just barely qualified for minimum specs on the game right?
    "Processor:
    Core 2 Duo 2.6 ghz"

    right now ns2 can't take run on more than 2 cores so your quad core is barely qualifying to run the game.

    stop complaining that your 7 year old processor can't run a new game on ULTRA.
  • th0msth0ms Join Date: 2012-10-31 Member: 165232Members
    <!--quoteo(post=2003757:date=Nov 1 2012, 02:10 AM:name=Wheeee)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Wheeee @ Nov 1 2012, 02:10 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2003757"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->you realize that you just barely qualified for minimum specs on the game right?
    "Processor:
    Core 2 Duo 2.6 ghz"

    right now ns2 can't take run on more than 2 cores so your quad core is barely qualifying to run the game.

    stop complaining that your 7 year old processor can't run a new game on ULTRA.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    You don't read either? makes no difference if i got everything on max settings or lowest setting.. Its cpu lag, because its badly programmed.. Thats all.
  • MouseMouse The Lighter Side of Pessimism Join Date: 2002-03-02 Member: 263Members, NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow
    This thread isn't going anywhere

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