Cheater?

Echo1432 · October 2012

<div class="IPBDescription">Or he's exploiting something</div>I know most of you would call bull######, so I looked this guy up. Check out his playtime and KDR.

<span style="color:#FF8C00"><b>link removed, against community guidelines to single out people -Kouji San</b></span>

countbasie · October 2012

He's a member at ARC, they are known for having greatly performing players.

The only 'exploit' you need at the moment is a good CPU. It gives you hell of an advantage.

Grissi · October 2012

Average: 6 rounds - 15 minutes each - 25 kills per round, 100% marine played.

Can't really see anything special about it.

Zomb3h · October 2012

Recorded by another player

<b><span style="color:#FF8C00">Removing YouTube link as well, inappropriately linked to person -Kouji San</span></b>

eh? · October 2012

:P

I'm def guilty of stat padding, but I blame zups for having killstreaks in ns2stats.

Rambo Swags · October 2012

lmfao

Skie · October 2012

Marine vs. standard pubbie skulks is very easy right now. Ah, reminds me of the Laser Rifle whoring in Dystopia with 52/2 or 40/0 stats on US servers. Good times.

eagleye · October 2012

Just loved the missing parts before every fights, so you don't know why he is looking at this location.

Mango · October 2012

I played that guy and he never misses his aim is always perfect. I also notice he refuses to go aliens. I asked him many times to go aliens and he always goes Marines. Last game was today actually had 40+ kills with 1 death. He won't answer me to what 3rd party mods his using. I do believe cheating. But, since spect mode we can't go to 1st person view yet it is hard to tell.

Runteh · October 2012

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Zomb3h @ Oct 17 2012, 06:39 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1992863"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'>Recorded by another player

<b><span style="color:#FF8C00">Removing YouTube link as well, inappropriately linked to person -Kouji San</span></b></div>

I used to make anti-hacking videos for enemydown.co.uk when I was an admin there, installed wallhacks to see if people were hacking or not.

It is very difficult unless you have a first person view and wallhacks to see whether someone is wallhacking or not. At times I watched demos back with hacks on and it was far too close to call, but could be seen to be looking suspicious.

As soon as you make a video of someone who looks 'good' and label that person a hacker on the video title, you have already implanted that seed in peoples brains.

At times he looks like he is shooting early, but if you play 3 hours a day like ARC do then I know (from experience) that you start to judge player movement very effectively, and you often fire before someone strafes past a corridor based on what you expect from the player, and the sound they are giving off.

Innocent until proven guilty.

Zeikko · October 2012

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Skie @ Oct 17 2012, 07:49 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1992868"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'>Marine vs. standard pubbie skulks is very easy right now. Ah, reminds me of the Laser Rifle whoring in Dystopia with 52/2 or 40/0 stats on US servers. Good times.</div>
Oh man! I still see nightmares about you with the laser rifle! You just see the red beam closing in getting strong and stronger and then you're dead. :(

You're a beast with that thing.

Mango · October 2012

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Zomb3h @ Oct 17 2012, 09:39 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1992863"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'>Recorded by another player

<b><span style="color:#FF8C00">Removing YouTube link as well, inappropriately linked to person -Kouji San</span></b></div>

Thanks for the video..I notice many times he was shooting before entering the room. He has some type of hack wall. There was no way he can see through the walls next to the hive. There is no satellite not even near by to spot aliens.

Grissi · October 2012

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Zomb3h @ Oct 17 2012, 01:39 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1992863"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'>Recorded by another player

<b><span style="color:#FF8C00">Removing YouTube link as well, inappropriately linked to person -Kouji San</span></b></div>
Watched each instance of that video closely and there is nothing there to indicate he is cheating. You need to put down much better evidence.
All these clips can be connected to soundspotting, scan or effective positioning. Most of these clips are also from public play against inexperienced players, figuring out their hiding spots isnt really that hard.
Just look at some of the competitive streams where he was playing you can see plently of instances where he gets surprised by skulks. If you are looking for evidence of cheating then it should be relativly easy to spot it on these streams. But I doubt you will be able to find any.

I generally feel that accusing someone of cheating on the general forums is a very bad idea, even worse when you don't have any clear evidence of it. It will end up hurting the player reputation no matter what.

Kouji_San · October 2012

Currently there is no way to prove cheating in the game with the lack of true FPS spectating. Besides most of the stuff I see in that video is usually a combination of good headphones or knowing about certain hiding spots. Even if some of the stuff in that video look a bit suspicious it still isn't proof, I'm afraid. And there simply are some bloody good aimers and tacticians out there in NS2 lands as well. Especially with aliens being made of cardboard in these builds (222,223) and slow, especially if used incorrectly by new players.

<b><span style="color:#FF8C00">Locking this and removing the link from your post OP. It's against the community guidelines to single out people, not even mentioning accusations made without proof</span></b>

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