I hold my hands up..

Soul_RiderSoul_Rider Mod Bean Join Date: 2004-06-19 Member: 29388Members, Constellation, Squad Five Blue
in NS2 General Discussion
I've been ###### and whining how it is impossible to hit anything, particularly skulks, and I have been wondering how this game could ever survive launch in the state it is in...

Today I upgraded from WinXP to Win7... I can't believe the difference...

My hardware is exactly the same, my framerate hasn't changed, but wow, I can hit stuff now!! My bullets register on skulks, in a way they never did before, I can actually kill the buggers.

If there is anyone out there still running windows XP, I can't say why, but upgrading to Win7 will improve your game performance measurably.

I didn't think a simple OS change could be so important, but for this game it appears to be so.

For those wondering why I've only changed now, I have some XP gen hardware, to which I only discovered Win7 drivers for today. I've actually had win7 for 18months :P

Anyway, the hassle of the install was more than worth it!!!
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  • internetexplorerinternetexplorer Join Date: 2011-10-13 Member: 127255Members
    edited October 2012
    What changed under the hood to make it possible?
    Was XP not communicating with servers or something?

    (I don't believe you, and it's more likely "having a fresh windows install after using brutally old hardware" is the real answer, not the fact that it's windows 7)
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  • Soul_RiderSoul_Rider Mod Bean Join Date: 2004-06-19 Member: 29388Members, Constellation, Squad Five Blue
    Nothing changed under the hood. My FPS is the same as it was. I have had Win7 for 18months but never installed it due to sound card not having win7 drivers, which I discovered today.

    There are numerous changes, I no longer get client hitching when first firing my rifle, and I went 6-0 in game as marine, which if anyone ever games with me knows, it's normally 0-6, and I complain about bugged hit-reg on the skulk with the rifle, but not anymore :P

    Every piece of hardware is the same. I still have XP on the other partition and flipped back, to the same problems. I can't say why, but it definitely makes an improvement.
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  • TimMcTimMc Join Date: 2012-02-06 Member: 143945Members
    It is possible for the dev's to not have an XP test system, <a href="http://kotaku.com/332948/the-eve-online-bootini-problem-explained" target="_blank">seeing as how Eve Online released a patch that killed Windows XP installations</a> since they didn't have it.
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  • ScardyBobScardyBob ScardyBob Join Date: 2009-11-25 Member: 69528Forum Admins, Forum Moderators, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow
    According to the <a href="http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey" target="_blank">Steam Hardware Survey</a>, only about 12% of Steam users are still running XP.
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  • Kouji_SanKouji_San Sr. Hινε Uρкεερεг - EUPT Deputy The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    edited October 2012
    <!--quoteo(post=1986749:date=Oct 3 2012, 10:47 PM:name=TimMc)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TimMc @ Oct 3 2012, 10:47 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1986749"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->It is possible for the dev's to not have an XP test system, <a href="http://kotaku.com/332948/the-eve-online-bootini-problem-explained" target="_blank">seeing as how Eve Online released a patch that killed Windows XP installations</a> since they didn't have it.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I had a winXP system as I've explained to Soul_Rider in his earlier thread, but that was used back at around build 200 and switch to win7 back then used up to build215 :P

    Not sure about the other PT's, but I expect a few still have winXP...
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  • TechercizerTechercizer 7th Player Join Date: 2011-06-11 Member: 103832Members
    WinXP systems mean WinXP architecture and WinXP drivers and a whole bunch of other WinXP stuff that's out of date by a decade. You shouldn't be expecting games to run well on it any more than you should expect Win95 games to work on Windows 8.
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  • IndustryIndustry Esteemed Gentleman Join Date: 2010-07-13 Member: 72344Members, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Supporter
    Just out of curiousity, what is the CPU you are using?
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  • Soul_RiderSoul_Rider Mod Bean Join Date: 2004-06-19 Member: 29388Members, Constellation, Squad Five Blue
    I have a i3 530 (Dual Core with HyperThreading) 2.93Ghz, @ 3.67Ghz.
    My GFX card is a Nvidia GTS250 512 at stock.
    My framerate in the Graphics menu is 56 on both installations, With NO - Shadows, Atmos, Bloom, AA or AO. Reflections are on though, as is AF.
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  • 1dominator11dominator1 Join Date: 2010-11-19 Member: 75011Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1986751:date=Oct 3 2012, 06:49 PM:name=ScardyBob)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ScardyBob @ Oct 3 2012, 06:49 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1986751"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->According to the <a href="http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey" target="_blank">Steam Hardware Survey</a>, only about 12% of Steam users are still running XP.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    We are the 12%, we are the 12%!
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  • MaGicBushMaGicBush Join Date: 2002-12-02 Member: 10378Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1986795:date=Oct 3 2012, 08:52 PM:name=1dominator1)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (1dominator1 @ Oct 3 2012, 08:52 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1986795"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->We are the 12%, we are the 12%!<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    XP was the best for it's time and up through Vista. Windows 7 is the now :D.
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  • MrRadicalEdMrRadicalEd Turrent Master Join Date: 2004-08-13 Member: 30601Members
    memory utilization... that's all I can think of here.
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  • dethovudethovu Join Date: 2009-06-23 Member: 67906Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1986736:date=Oct 3 2012, 06:34 PM:name=Soul_Rider)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Soul_Rider @ Oct 3 2012, 06:34 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1986736"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I have some XP gen hardware, to which I only discovered Win7 drivers for today.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Hope that's not drivers for Creative X-fi audio! 'Cause oh boy, that is a headache :|

    In regards to the OS upgrade, was in a x86 or x64? If you upgraded to 64-bit memory addressing, that could be a large part of the performance increase. Also, XP doesn't handle more than 2 cores very well, so that could be it, too.
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