lockdown?

Cyberwarrior00785Cyberwarrior00785 Join Date: 2010-02-20 Member: 70651Members
in NS2 General Discussion
why are you you locking down the game for features when its not ready? It needs it's features like babblers and so on. When ones like those are added after v1.0 it will be like a beta build all over again! *sigh* DON'T DO IT I BEG YOU!
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  • antacidantacid Join Date: 2007-08-07 Member: 61821Members, NS2 Playtester
    Do you even know what babblers do?
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  • carlgmcarlgm Join Date: 2004-08-26 Member: 30907Members, Constellation
    Yes, because Babblers is very important to hit 1.0. So basically you don't want features after 1.0 then?
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  • Cyberwarrior00785Cyberwarrior00785 Join Date: 2010-02-20 Member: 70651Members
    edited October 2012
    <!--quoteo(post=1985093:date=Sep 30 2012, 05:57 AM:name=antacid)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (antacid @ Sep 30 2012, 05:57 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1985093"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Do you even know what babblers do?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Babblers are like snarks from hl1 i remember the devs put out a voting poll for the general model

    I basically think they should actually finish the game before putting it out into the wild
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  • Onii-chanOnii-chan Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 7164Members
    Define "finished".
    This isn't a generic console game in the sense that you can only launch when it's 100% finished because you can't patch anything besides small hotfixes.
    1.0 is just the begining, as it has been said many times.

    Babblers as a feature are irrelevant to most games, they're an endgame crag ability probably meant to troll marines.
    Kinda like the mothership in SC2, only useful to shame your opponent.
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  • ZekZek Join Date: 2002-11-10 Member: 7962Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    UWE is a business and they need to sell a game to make money. Keeping everything in beta limbo indefinitely is not good for the game or its community.
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  • Cyberwarrior00785Cyberwarrior00785 Join Date: 2010-02-20 Member: 70651Members
    but there are others then just babblers like Dynamic Infestation and i did say "and so on"
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  • Onii-chanOnii-chan Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 7164Members
    Dynamic Infestation is just a graphical upgrade that will likely eat up FPS, it's not needed, nor welcome at this time.
    Cyst system makes for much faster and dynamic games, much better than spending 10 minutes spamming a flamethrower around a corridor to clean infestation.

    I can't think of any other features that aren't implemented, please remind me.
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  • Cyberwarrior00785Cyberwarrior00785 Join Date: 2010-02-20 Member: 70651Members
    there is one unnamed ability for the gorge that Hugh mentioned in one of his newer gorge videos and others i cant remember what they do
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  • Kouji_SanKouji_San Sr. Hινε Uρкεερεг - EUPT Deputy The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    <!--quoteo(post=1985326:date=Sep 30 2012, 11:34 PM:name=Onii-chan)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Onii-chan @ Sep 30 2012, 11:34 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1985326"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Dynamic Infestation is just a graphical upgrade that will likely eat up FPS, it's not needed, nor welcome at this time.
    Cyst system makes for much faster and dynamic games, much better than spending 10 minutes spamming a flamethrower around a corridor to clean infestation.

    I can't think of any other features that aren't implemented, please remind me.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Cysts are here to stay and in the future will work together with the dynamic infestation.



    @op, adding new features will most likely produce bugs and this close to release the performance and balancing outweigh the need for features. After 1.0 the devs can ease off the 2 weekly or weekly schedule they used and perhaps go back to monthly schedules to have more time to test and perfect new features.

    In the end a feature lock is the only logical right now...
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  • Cyberwarrior00785Cyberwarrior00785 Join Date: 2010-02-20 Member: 70651Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1985342:date=Sep 30 2012, 04:51 PM:name=Kouji_San)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kouji_San @ Sep 30 2012, 04:51 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1985342"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Cysts are here to stay and in the future will work together with the dynamic infestation.



    @op, adding new features will most likely produce bugs and this close to release the performance and balancing outweigh the need for features. After 1.0 the devs can ease off the 2 weekly or weekly schedule they used and perhaps go back to monthly schedules to have more time to test and perfect new features.

    In the end a feature lock is the only logical right now...<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    hmmm maybe but it still seems like they should make sure the game has all it's features and is balanced and has a smooth frame rate BEFORE release.
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  • Kouji_SanKouji_San Sr. Hινε Uρкεερεг - EUPT Deputy The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    Ok, let me rephrase that than ;)


    All important features are in the game, hence the feature lock and the complete focus on balancing and performance right before release
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  • SopsSops Join Date: 2003-07-03 Member: 17894Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1985351:date=Sep 30 2012, 07:04 PM:name=Cyberwarrior00785)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Cyberwarrior00785 @ Sep 30 2012, 07:04 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1985351"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->hmmm maybe but it still seems like they should make sure the game has all it's features and is balanced and has a smooth frame rate BEFORE release.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    That is why they are focusing on balance and performance now. All the major features are already in the game.
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  • Cyberwarrior00785Cyberwarrior00785 Join Date: 2010-02-20 Member: 70651Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1985358:date=Sep 30 2012, 05:09 PM:name=Kouji_San)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kouji_San @ Sep 30 2012, 05:09 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1985358"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Ok, let me rephrase that than ;)


    All important features are in the game, hence the feature lock and the complete focus on balancing and performance right before release<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->


    <!--quoteo(post=1985359:date=Sep 30 2012, 05:10 PM:name=Sops)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Sops @ Sep 30 2012, 05:10 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1985359"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->That is why they are focusing on balance and performance now. All the major features are already in the game.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I guess...
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