Bye Bye Ns
MajorJello
Join Date: 2002-12-18 Member: 11059Members, Constellation
Join Date: 2002-12-18 Member: 11059Members, Constellation
<div class="IPBDescription">Too bad the game I played the most got..</div> ...ruined.
I've been playing recently and the Kharaa can get 3 hives up in 10 minutes. Well, I'm, so glad that marines are fighting fades in 2 minutes (I've played on 3 diff servers and the result is the same) If you choose random team and become a marine, just quit, it saves time.
Either it's the server or the game i've been playing long enough to know that something funky is going on. Well, NS is ruined. See yas.
I know this is gonna be flamed big time, but, who really cares... I already heard this... "If the comm knows what he's doing, its a good game"
I've been a marine for 2 or 3 good comms and they lose, it's just a matter of 10 mins or 30 mins. I've been alien and as a gorge and I could put up a 2nd hive in about 45 to 60 secs after getting the first res nozzle.
Please tell me it's a mistake.
I've been playing recently and the Kharaa can get 3 hives up in 10 minutes. Well, I'm, so glad that marines are fighting fades in 2 minutes (I've played on 3 diff servers and the result is the same) If you choose random team and become a marine, just quit, it saves time.
Either it's the server or the game i've been playing long enough to know that something funky is going on. Well, NS is ruined. See yas.
I know this is gonna be flamed big time, but, who really cares... I already heard this... "If the comm knows what he's doing, its a good game"
I've been a marine for 2 or 3 good comms and they lose, it's just a matter of 10 mins or 30 mins. I've been alien and as a gorge and I could put up a 2nd hive in about 45 to 60 secs after getting the first res nozzle.
Please tell me it's a mistake.
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Now, onto the resource thing. If you are the aliens starting gorge (IE game starts, you go gorge, noone else does), there is NO WAY you can get that many resources that quickly. You should have to sit around for atleast that long to put up the first node, almost that long for the second, and then atleast 3 minutes for the hive. The game must have been modified/bugged if you truly gained 80 res in 1 minute with only 2 nodes.
BUT if you just went gorge in the middle of a game, the aliens may control tons of nodes, allowing you to very quickly gain the 80 res you need. That is NOT a bug, its simply a benefit of controlling most of the map.
I have been in a great many games where the marines have won and they all share the common thread of securing a hive immediately, followed by keeping pressure up on the aliens, pinning down the other hives, and assaulting/sieging one at a time. If the marines aren't on the ball, they lose. Keeps the game challenging.
<span style='color:blue'>Be nice.</span>
You weren't a major member of the community, you weren't working on something that we've all been waiting for. We won't care if you leave, it will just mean one less person whining about how NS is incredibly unbalanced, which I might add isn't true.
Oh and also, you said that you have lost within 30 minutes under the command of 2 or 3 good comms. Did it ever occur to you that if they were good comms they wouldn't have lost that quickly?
I've been playing recently and the Kharaa can get 3 hives up in 10 minutes. Well, I'm, so glad that marines are fighting fades in 2 minutes (I've played on 3 diff servers and the result is the same) If you choose random team and become a marine, just quit, it saves time.
Either it's the server or the game i've been playing long enough to know that something funky is going on. Well, NS is ruined. See yas.
I know this is gonna be flamed big time, but, who really cares... I already heard this... "If the comm knows what he's doing, its a good game"
I've been a marine for 2 or 3 good comms and they lose, it's just a matter of 10 mins or 30 mins. I've been alien and as a gorge and I could put up a 2nd hive in about 45 to 60 secs after getting the first res nozzle.
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Well, why don't you come to Finland and get to see some real marine action?
Infact here marines wines more often than not, partly because we have good comms, we have n00b aliens, we have gr8 marine players(we know what it is to fight for your own and mates lives).
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I've been playing recently and the Kharaa can get 3 hives up in 10 minutes. Well, I'm, so glad that marines are fighting fades in 2 minutes (I've played on 3 diff servers and the result is the same) If you choose random team and become a marine, just quit, it saves time.
Either it's the server or the game i've been playing long enough to know that something funky is going on. Well, NS is ruined. See yas.
I know this is gonna be flamed big time, but, who really cares... I already heard this... "If the comm knows what he's doing, its a good game"
I've been a marine for 2 or 3 good comms and they lose, it's just a matter of 10 mins or 30 mins. I've been alien and as a gorge and I could put up a 2nd hive in about 45 to 60 secs after getting the first res nozzle.
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Well, why don't you come to Finland and get to see some real marine action?
Infact here marines wines more often than not, partly because we have good comms, we have n00b aliens, we have gr8 marine players(we know what it is to fight for your own and mates lives).
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I'll have to concede that. Some of the best pub matches I've played when not with my clan members are on finnish servers. Er, their names elude me right now, but there are 3 of them.
Winning just as often as marines as I do as kharaa. Finn comm's rule!
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I've been playing recently and the Kharaa can get 3 hives up in 10 minutes. Well, I'm, so glad that marines are fighting fades in 2 minutes (I've played on 3 diff servers and the result is the same) If you choose random team and become a marine, just quit, it saves time.
Either it's the server or the game i've been playing long enough to know that something funky is going on. Well, NS is ruined. See yas.
I know this is gonna be flamed big time, but, who really cares... I already heard this... "If the comm knows what he's doing, its a good game"
I've been a marine for 2 or 3 good comms and they lose, it's just a matter of 10 mins or 30 mins. I've been alien and as a gorge and I could put up a 2nd hive in about 45 to 60 secs after getting the first res nozzle.
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u r more or less correct. it doesnt take a good commander, it takes both a good commander AND n00b aliens to win.
Admins will always have that power, but thankfully Flayra and the folks can stop regular players from doing crap like that.
As for the game being balanced at aliens 2 hives, marines 1 hive.. I think that's a bit off. Marines having the 3rd hive kills any hope of Bilebomb or Spores or Onos, yes. But marine defenses are underpowered against the long range and hitting power of the Fade's acid rocket.. so they can't HOLD onto the hive or resource nodes very long. The hive should be defended by actual marines, yes, but the nodes need turrets.. and we need nodes to distribute HA/HMG and such.
Edit: Marines have the advantage, BEFORE second hive. Usually marines won't have JP/HA and HMG/GL at that point, and that's needed to fight off fades in umbra.
Also, about finns being so nice pub'ers. BS. I've gotten kicked from servers like 6 times, and they've all been finnish servers. Reasons why have ranged from "you used a clan tactic on a pub server" to "you're a dirty **obscenity** homosexual swedish" to simply "vittu haxxorinen". This finnish admin Console is really bad tempered. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo--> I bet you $100 that you're gonna see atleast one person saying "VITTU!" (you know, the thing the ladies has got between their legs) or "PRKL"/"PERKELE".
Anyway, I played earlier with a guy named ______ on the GTW St. Louis Server, and he would do this, and the first gorge would have 100 resources right off the bat. The Aliens would have 3 hives in about 4 minutes, and onoses in about 6. It's a terrible exploit, and marines hardly have a base by the time the Aliens have 2 hives, and the game is more or less over by the time they have 3 hives.
I had second thoughts about exposing the cheater, so I left his name blank. Maybe there should be a real 'wall of shame' where we post the names of people that were screwing around with widely known bugs.... of course there would have to be witnesses to the crime, but I can already see problems for that in the future. Anywho, someone post this in the Bugs Forum. No one likes me in this community.
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Read my damn posts. Don't you see, he's talking about a new exploited bug.
Its always one guy:
"OMG teh game is unbalanced teh marines loose every time!"
And the rest of the community:
"We see the marines win just as often as the aliens. The fact of the matter is that the more-skilled team wins. Period."
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edit - Another thing I'm seeing discussed is the resource exploit involving hitting f4 and rejoining alien team.
For some reason people are arguing to the death that this was removed in 1.03 when it is still very much there. Guess its a case of misinterpretation of the list of changes from the last patch, but go try it for yourselves.
I was in a game last night with someone who kept bashing us saying "no it doesn't work don't bother". I proceeded to hit f4 as a gorge and come back in, everyone's resources shot up through the roof.
It's not whine if it's a legitimate complaint.
There is also some bug or secret where sometimes an alien has a marine skin instead so its like he is undercover or something. For any of you that have witnessed/experienced it(I witnessed it today), is it a hack or just a bug that they never intentionally tried to do?
If its a hack, then could you tell me how to find somebodies WON id?
thank you
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Well, in CS at least, you bring down the console in game and type status. Hit f5 for a screenie if you want.
( at least you do on the servers I play on..)
I'm guessing this works in NS too..
Edit: You might need to put console "1" in yer config, and possibly bind a key to console..