Can we have res carry over from a crash?

glimmermanglimmerman Join Date: 2004-04-29 Member: 28300Members, Constellation
in NS2 General Discussion
for me, this game crashes ALL the time, so when I have 70+ res it's annoying to lose it all to a game crash every 20 mins. Can the the server please remember how much res you had if you rejoin in less than say 2 mins or something?
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  • BicsumBicsum Join Date: 2012-02-27 Member: 147596Members, Reinforced - Gold
    +1

    Also, you should at least get 50% of your pres back after switching teams.
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  • CobraCommanderCobraCommander Join Date: 2012-07-30 Member: 154472Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1961435:date=Aug 11 2012, 06:35 PM:name=Bicsum)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bicsum @ Aug 11 2012, 06:35 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1961435"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->+1

    Also, you should at least get 50% of your pres back after switching teams.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Switching sides in the middle of the game?
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  • WorthyRivalWorthyRival Black Armor Division Join Date: 2006-11-07 Member: 58470Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Supporter, Reinforced - Silver, Reinforced - Gold, Reinforced - Diamond, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow
    +1 to OP one of the most annoying things about the game especially since it's buggy.
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  • LamboLambo Iceland Join Date: 2012-08-07 Member: 154915Members, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Supporter, Reinforced - Silver, Reinforced - Shadow
    It's going to be a useless feature when they officially release it since it's gonna be mostly bug free, meaning no random crashes. Same goes with switching teams mid-game, that's something you just shouldn't do.

    Beta is beta.
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  • NordicNordic Long term camping in Kodiak Join Date: 2012-05-13 Member: 151995Members, NS2 Playtester, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Supporter, Reinforced - Silver, Reinforced - Shadow
    Wont matter in 1.0. Boo hoo game crashed. Go cry in a corner
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  • {GGs} Chicken{GGs} Chicken Join Date: 2011-11-22 Member: 134663Members, NS2 Map Tester
    I agree. Totally unnecessary. I mean who's ever heard of a released game crashing?
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  • playerplayer Join Date: 2010-09-12 Member: 73982Members
    Replace client-crash with internet-outtage\power-outtage, it's a valid request, so don't be a bunch of twats. Also, like Chicken said, v1.0 completely crash-free? Get real.
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  • IeptBarakatIeptBarakat The most difficult name to speak ingame. Join Date: 2009-07-10 Member: 68107Members, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Diamond, Reinforced - Shadow
    Hopefully they'll implement it down the road. No game is ever bug/crash free.
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  • ellnicellnic Join Date: 2010-07-19 Member: 72559Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--quoteo(post=1961435:date=Aug 12 2012, 02:35 AM:name=Bicsum)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bicsum @ Aug 12 2012, 02:35 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1961435"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->+1

    Also, you should at least get 50% of your pres back after switching teams.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Switching sides? Only reasons i can think of doing that for is because the other team is doing better then yours or the less likely reason, the other team is doing bad and you though you might help them out.

    Switching sides and losing your res seems fine to me
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  • WheeeeWheeee Join Date: 2003-02-18 Member: 13713Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    some people switch teams, yknow, to make the teams balanced.
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  • Locke504Locke504 Join Date: 2010-04-23 Member: 71511Members, NS2 Map Tester
    <!--quoteo(post=1961473:date=Aug 11 2012, 10:01 PM:name=Wheeee)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Wheeee @ Aug 11 2012, 10:01 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1961473"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->some people switch teams, yknow, to make the teams balanced.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->


    And the number of people who do this would be the tiniest fraction compared to the number who use it to switch to the "better" or "winning" team.

    So not worth it.
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  • ShadrougeShadrouge Join Date: 2012-08-05 Member: 154833Members
    Seems like a good idea.

    A crash is a crash, and can't be helped by the player really.
    Full release will still have ways to crash or otherwise lose connection.

    Even if full release were somehow 100% crash/disconnection-free, why not just temporarily implement it until it gets to that stage?
    Beta is beta, and beta is now, so people are experiencing this frustration now, even if maybe in the future they wont.
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  • ScardyBobScardyBob ScardyBob Join Date: 2009-11-25 Member: 69528Forum Admins, Forum Moderators, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow
    +1
    This has long been a needed feature in NS2. I think as long as the match persists, you should be able to keep your res from crashing/switching teams.

    <!--quoteo(post=1961476:date=Aug 11 2012, 08:05 PM:name=Locke504)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Locke504 @ Aug 11 2012, 08:05 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1961476"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->And the number of people who do this would be the tiniest fraction compared to the number who use it to switch to the "better" or "winning" team.

    So not worth it.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Generally, the winning team will have more players than the losing one, making it impossible to switch to the winning team in the way your thinking. Team stacking occurs from
    - The random bug (where it puts you on the side with more players)
    - People rage/boredquitting from the losing side
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  • supsusupsu Join Date: 2012-04-24 Member: 151023Members, Squad Five Blue
    It's needed. Imagine competitive match going one crashes, not good, so yes do this ######.
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  • glimmermanglimmerman Join Date: 2004-04-29 Member: 28300Members, Constellation
    This was actually a feature in NS1, it worked there so no reason why it wouldn't work in NS2
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  • TyphonTyphon Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 1899Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1961489:date=Aug 11 2012, 11:39 PM:name=supsu)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (supsu @ Aug 11 2012, 11:39 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1961489"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->It's needed. Imagine competitive match going one crashes, not good, so yes do this ######.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yeah, I remember one game NS2HD was casting, one team had a couple people crash. Say goodbye to your res, now you're gonna lose.
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  • Squeal_Like_A_PigSqueal_Like_A_Pig Janitor Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 66Members, Super Administrators, NS1 Playtester, NS2 Developer, Reinforced - Supporter, WC 2013 - Silver, Subnautica Developer
    This is something we've talked about wanting for a while, so I imagine it will go in at some point, though I don't know where on the schedule it is.

    --Cory
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  • BicsumBicsum Join Date: 2012-02-27 Member: 147596Members, Reinforced - Gold
    <!--quoteo(post=1961487:date=Aug 12 2012, 05:37 AM:name=ScardyBob)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ScardyBob @ Aug 12 2012, 05:37 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1961487"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Generally, the winning team will have more players than the losing one, making it impossible to switch to the winning team in the way your thinking. Team stacking occurs from
    - The random bug (where it puts you on the side with more players)
    - People rage/boredquitting from the losing side<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Exactly.


    I try to have the HBZ servers as balanced as possible, but sometimes people join a side and then leave after the first few minutes, creating a 8vs5 at the start of the game. At this point I change the team, but it is just unfair that I have to start with nothing. With 10 res I could at least buy a welder or go gorge.

    And even if it happens that the winning team has fewer players than the losing, I wouldn't care someone balancing teams again, even if he gets "easy victory". It would be more unfair if the winning starts to lose because of uneven teams.

    Keeping some res would make balance more attractive for everyone.
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  • glimmermanglimmerman Join Date: 2004-04-29 Member: 28300Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1961476:date=Aug 12 2012, 11:05 AM:name=Locke504)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Locke504 @ Aug 12 2012, 11:05 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1961476"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->And the number of people who do this would be the tiniest fraction compared to the number who use it to switch to the "better" or "winning" team.

    So not worth it.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Why would you switch to a winning team anyway? That's just boring....

    I think you will find it's the opposite, more people definitely switch to the losing team as it's generally more challenging.
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  • TimMcTimMc Join Date: 2012-02-06 Member: 143945Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1961476:date=Aug 11 2012, 10:05 PM:name=Locke504)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Locke504 @ Aug 11 2012, 10:05 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1961476"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->And the number of people who do this would be the tiniest fraction compared to the number who use it to switch to the "better" or "winning" team.

    So not worth it.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Winning teams usually have more players than losing team, so cannot switch.

    I honestly think keeping your res when you switch would be a good thing. Give a boon to the side who previously was missing a teammate.
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  • Mr.GreedyMr.Greedy Join Date: 2012-07-21 Member: 154270Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1961602:date=Aug 12 2012, 02:44 AM:name=TimMc)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TimMc @ Aug 12 2012, 02:44 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1961602"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Winning teams usually have more players than losing team, so cannot switch.

    I honestly think keeping your res when you switch would be a good thing. Give a boon to the side who previously was missing a teammate.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Yep. But we need a littel restriction. Letz say the max. pres that an alienplayer can have in the current game is 38 (depending on the numbers of extractors). A Marine player, who changed the team, with 52 pres gets his pres decreased to 38 now .
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  • AurOn2AurOn2 COOKIES&#33; FREEDOM, AND BISCUITS&#33; Australia Join Date: 2012-01-13 Member: 140224Members, Forum Moderators, NS2 Playtester, Forum staff
    could have it so that it also records what faction you were in... so if you drop to marines but were aliens beforehand, you get that 20 res starter pack, but if you swap again, you have the 80 you had before?
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  • H3lixH3lix Join Date: 2012-08-03 Member: 154722Members, NS2 Map Tester
    <!--quoteo(post=1961476:date=Aug 11 2012, 11:05 PM:name=Locke504)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Locke504 @ Aug 11 2012, 11:05 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1961476"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->And the number of people who do this would be the tiniest fraction compared to the number who use it to switch to the "better" or "winning" team.

    So not worth it.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    i've switched teams numerous times just to re-balance the teams :'(
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  • FlayraFlayra Game Director, Unknown Worlds Entertainment San Francisco Join Date: 2002-01-22 Member: 3Super Administrators, NS2 Developer, Subnautica Developer
    Yep we did this in NS1 and it's planned. Hopefully before v1.0.
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  • WorthyRivalWorthyRival Black Armor Division Join Date: 2006-11-07 Member: 58470Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Supporter, Reinforced - Silver, Reinforced - Gold, Reinforced - Diamond, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow
    If this games to be considered a E-Sports game it will have to be featured 1.0

    Crashing at the start of a game in E-sports they would just restart the game.
    But a player dropping out at 20 minutes in .....
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  • LamboLambo Iceland Join Date: 2012-08-07 Member: 154915Members, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Supporter, Reinforced - Silver, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--quoteo(post=1962002:date=Aug 13 2012, 03:02 AM:name=WorthyRival)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (WorthyRival @ Aug 13 2012, 03:02 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1962002"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->If this games to be considered a E-Sports game it will have to be featured 1.0

    Crashing at the start of a game in E-sports they would just restart the game.
    But a player dropping out at 20 minutes in .....<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    qft.
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  • MorshuMorshu Join Date: 2012-08-13 Member: 155539Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    Well for the Esport' sake then I guess it would be needed to have the P.res amount for the player that just crashed saved temp. somehow but for the purposes of switching teams/etc. during a match I think you should only start with 20 P.res like any other normal person starts with.
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  • TimMcTimMc Join Date: 2012-02-06 Member: 143945Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1961734:date=Aug 12 2012, 12:11 PM:name=Flayra)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Flayra @ Aug 12 2012, 12:11 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1961734"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Yep we did this in NS1 and it's planned. Hopefully before v1.0.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Cool!
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  • ellnicellnic Join Date: 2010-07-19 Member: 72559Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    I think it should only be for crashing and not just leaving the server/game and rejoinging that server/starting up the game after manually disconnecting.
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