Jetpack energy

Rapid_SausageRapid_Sausage Join Date: 2012-08-05 Member: 154811Members
Don't make it regenerate.

here's the reasons why i think jetpack energy shouldn't regenerate:
1. It's completely unrealistic, even for a highly fictional game such as this.
2. Marines already have the luxury of phase gates.
3. Based on #2, Marines don't needs additional mobility, Jetpacks should be used wisely in combat, not just "Hold SPACE".

Of course it won't be left like that, visiting an armory will recharge the energy.

some will argue "It's running on fuel cells/advanced power generating contraption", well if they have fuel cells or any other advanced means of energy generation, then i bet they would also have more advanced weaponry for their time instead of projectile based rifles and pistols, wouldn't they?

I'm not saying jetpacks are bad, but imagine when the Exos come, and marines all have jetpacks and grenade launchers coming for the hive, it'd be more merciful to nuke the damn thing.

and now, with the lerks having to spend energy to fly, it makes marines much more efficient at flying and much more effective on the offense.

I repeat, jetpacks are supposed to be a tactical combat item, not an "Escape from teeth almost indefinitely" item.

Comments

  • Firepower01Firepower01 Join Date: 2012-08-03 Member: 154658Members
    edited August 2012
    Surely you're joking? Nobody cares about realism in this game so as far as I'm concerned that point is invalid.

    Aliens have the luxury of moving much faster than marines and using vents to move around the map very quickly without needing to defend a building to keep that ability.

    Jetpacks are crucial for marines, it's the only thing that allows them to even be remotely effective against fades and onos and keep them in the fight during the late game. If you remove the ability for jetpacks to recharge then nobody would bother with them because they'd be virtually useless, unless you gave jetpacks a huge boost in fuel before needing to refill.

    Edit: Also I forgot to mention that jetpacks only recharge energy while the user is on the ground, so it isn't just "hold spacebar"
  • Rapid_SausageRapid_Sausage Join Date: 2012-08-05 Member: 154811Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1960635:date=Aug 10 2012, 12:20 PM:name=Firepower01)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Firepower01 @ Aug 10 2012, 12:20 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1960635"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Aliens have the luxury of moving much faster than marines and using vents to move around the map very quickly without needing to defend a building to keep that ability.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Marines have phase gates, which are far more effective than other means of transportation.

    <!--quoteo(post=1960635:date=Aug 10 2012, 12:20 PM:name=Firepower01)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Firepower01 @ Aug 10 2012, 12:20 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1960635"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Jetpacks are crucial for marines, it's the only thing that allows them to even be remotely effective against fades and onos and keep them in the fight during the late game. If you remove the ability for jetpacks to recharge then nobody would bother with them because they'd be virtually useless, unless you gave jetpacks a huge boost in fuel before needing to refill.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    didn't patch 216 (latest) nerf onos, fades, and lerk flying??

    <!--quoteo(post=1960635:date=Aug 10 2012, 12:20 PM:name=Firepower01)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Firepower01 @ Aug 10 2012, 12:20 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1960635"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Edit: Also I forgot to mention that jetpacks only recharge energy while the user is on the ground, so it isn't just "hold spacebar"<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    a bigger base energy pool should do the trick.
  • Firepower01Firepower01 Join Date: 2012-08-03 Member: 154658Members
    edited August 2012
    I don't believe onos were nerfed, fades had their energy values tweaked so they can't blink as long but they are still incredibly effective against marines and without jetpacks would be able to easily steamroll entire marine squads.

    Phase gates have their pluses and minuses and the aliens' forms of movements also have their pluses and minuses. Phase gates on one hand allow for faster movement across maps to static locations, but the phase gate has to be defended in order for the marine team to retain this ability.

    Alien movement allows them to utilize vents and move faster overall to give them better accessibility to enemy controlled portions of the map which lets them harass the marines more effectively and give them more combat effectiveness.


    Also the lerk can still glide without using energy, it simply costs energy to flap it's wings now. I personally don't play lerk so I don't know how much of a nerf this is but they still seem to be able to fly relatively fine from what I've seen.
  • schkorpioschkorpio I can mspaint Join Date: 2003-05-23 Member: 16635Members
    sure, but only if onos adrenaline doesnt recharge until he has a power nap...
  • LamboLambo Iceland Join Date: 2012-08-07 Member: 154915Members, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Supporter, Reinforced - Silver, Reinforced - Shadow
    Taking away the recharge on Jetpacks is like eliminating the energy recharge for Fades.
  • IckorusIckorus Join Date: 2012-07-12 Member: 154057Members
    I don't particularly like how jetpacks work at the moment as they're far too effective against aliens at the moment but I think we should wait for exo-skeletons before they get balanced properly.
  • LamboLambo Iceland Join Date: 2012-08-07 Member: 154915Members, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Supporter, Reinforced - Silver, Reinforced - Shadow
    edited August 2012
    This might not even be how THEY want the jetpacks to be, it's just Beta.
  • DietOliveDietOlive Join Date: 2012-08-10 Member: 155232Members
    As long as you can't use exosuits and jetpacks at the same time I have no problems with them as I think they are balanced ATM.
  • GrohmiGrohmi Join Date: 2012-08-10 Member: 155216Members
    Not a bad idea at all. But if you make it rechargeable only in armories, then the max fuel level have to be increased.
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