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spaceturtle
Join Date: 2012-08-03 Member: 154714Members
Join Date: 2012-08-03 Member: 154714Members
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TRAINING! woooo
Parasite effect is incredibly ugly. I really don't understand how anyone could think that was a good idea? I assumed the nano-shield and catalyze effects were temporary (they're also hilariously ugly) but this makes it seem like they're all intentional.
Blur effect on the minimap is both annoying and pointless. If you want to add things like this, they need to be "depth of field" effects, that you can turn off in the options menu.
Hives are visible through the walls for all marines when they've been spotted. What the?
I really liked the improvements in the last couple of patches, but so far this is looking like a very sour lemon.
Edit: Only one upgrade per chamber, so no cara and regen at the same time. At least that's one good change.
Parasite effect is incredibly ugly. I really don't understand how anyone could think that was a good idea? I assumed the nano-shield and catalyze effects were temporary (they're also hilariously ugly) but this makes it seem like they're all intentional.
Blur effect on the minimap is both annoying and pointless. If you want to add things like this, they need to be "depth of field" effects, that you can turn off in the options menu.
Hives are visible through the walls for all marines when they've been spotted. What the?
I really liked the improvements in the last couple of patches, but so far this is looking like a very sour lemon.
Edit: Only one upgrade per chamber, so no cara and regen at the same time. At least that's one good change.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Agree on all these points....especially with the new parasite look.
Parasite effect is incredibly ugly. I really don't understand how anyone could think that was a good idea? I assumed the nano-shield and catalyze effects were temporary (they're also hilariously ugly) but this makes it seem like they're all intentional.
Blur effect on the minimap is both annoying and pointless. If you want to add things like this, they need to be "depth of field" effects, that you can turn off in the options menu.
Hives are visible through the walls for all marines when they've been spotted. What the?
I really liked the improvements in the last couple of patches, but so far this is looking like a very sour lemon.
Edit: Only one upgrade per chamber, so no cara and regen at the same time. At least that's one good change.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Parasite effect is placeholder (looks like someone exploded a glowstick in your face xD)
Hives visible - don't like that one myself how it is currently, but the implementation will probably change a bit.
Anecdotal, but my FPS is down a bit.
<a href="http://www.unknownworlds.com/ns2/forums/index.php?showtopic=117569&st=60&gopid=1959954&#entry1959954" target="_blank">http://www.unknownworlds.com/ns2/forums/in...p;#entry1959954</a>
(remember this is inofficial though, some unknown mechanic-changes can also have an impact on balance)
I would really like to see a loading bar instead of the useless rotating circle.
Thanks for officially adding fullscreen windowed mode. Plus I got a mild performance increase I believe.
Great patch from what I played so far, excluding the glowing red hives across the map.
agree that parasite effect is ugly (I never had a problem with nano shields.)
Sounds like you are using a mod that hasnt been updated for 216
Glowing red hives and cc icon's are here to stay, sorry. They will probably be decreased a bit in size and maybe made a little less intense, but they are necessary for players to know where to go, and what the objective is. Every FPS game has something like this. Maybe it will be added as an option to turn off later.
--Cory
--Cory<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
oh yes, please. please. please. <u><b>please.</b></u>
or at the very least make it easy to mod out- currently the UI elements in the game are in like 10+ different lua files/folders.
Parasite effect is incredibly ugly. I really don't understand how anyone could think that was a good idea? I assumed the nano-shield and catalyze effects were temporary (they're also hilariously ugly) but this makes it seem like they're all intentional.
Blur effect on the minimap is both annoying and pointless. If you want to add things like this, they need to be "depth of field" effects, that you can turn off in the options menu.
Hives are visible through the walls for all marines when they've been spotted. What the?
I really liked the improvements in the last couple of patches, but so far this is looking like a very sour lemon.
Edit: Only one upgrade per chamber, so no cara and regen at the same time. At least that's one good change.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I agree with all of these points. Also what's the purpose of having a hp bar when attacking a hive, or building something, i don't understand why that's needed, lets clutter up the screen some more... Either way, I feel at this moment in time that this patch has a couple of pointless new additions.
edit: Why add a placeholder, just keep it as it was until the new one is complete, it's just weird having something so ugly in whenever it doesn't have to be.
edit2: Cory, as long as you can toggle off/on those glowing red cc/hive icons, then i'm fine with it. Plus I really don't think it shows 'what the objective is' or 'where to go'. I think all it does is confuses new players and rather than the new players doing what they should be doing, they're attracted to a CC and will just get randomly picked off. There has to be a better way.
No mods here.
Just ran "verify integrity of game cache" and it found 1 file was bad and reaquired. Now AV is working fine again.
edit: Why add a placeholder, just keep it as it was until the new one is complete, it's just weird having something so ugly in whenever it doesn't have to be.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I'm with Syknik.
Why do I hate visible CC/Hive? Because it's redundant information. Once we know where the hive is at, it's not going to move anywhere. It's up to the commander to keep everybody on track. The goal is to kill the hive, great! But I can't just walk in and poke it dead. There is a build up to that hive getting down and I feel like having that by having giant red 'go here' button it makes people more likely to just walk there and die. Why did the game tell me to go to this giant fortitied area? I don't know why I need to be constantly reminded that there is a hive there. I enjoy commanding and once we find where the hive is, I know what area to avoid and where we need to build against. I'm not going to forget what the objective is. The game yells at you as you start to destroy the enemy base. Having an "objective" is great, but it's not like we're playing NS2: The RPG and along the way to Data Core I'm going to be stopped by a friendly gorge to go pick up lerk pelts (somebody needs to make an NS2 RPG).
The progress bar while building is again something that seems redundant. I have a builder item that tells me the percentage, and the ring around the building, why do I need a bar as well? This also goes for the alien hive health. I'm personally against health bars by principle because I feel that there are better ways to display health. Maybe in a future update we can have physical scaring on the hive to show how destroyed it is getting or even have a hive list with health, just a suggestion, but I'm not happy with more clutter on my screen. The UI is nice and clean, yeah it's huge and it takes up a lot of screen real estate, but it at least looks nice and is for the most part, unobtrusive.
I'm going to keep any responses or this post or even this thread into this one I made <a href="http://www.unknownworlds.com/ns2/forums/index.php?showtopic=119960" target="_blank">here</a>.
Sorry, but I disagree. It's not like everyone should rush the hive by knowing where it is. You also don't know the path to it, so I find it rather confusing. My main point is: The hive is most of the time not the main objective, but rather it's rts or expansions.
If you want player to know where the other team is located, just show it on the minimap, but not in the first-person perspective.
Glowing red hives and cc icon's are here to stay, sorry. They will probably be decreased a bit in size and maybe made a little less intense, but they are necessary for players to know where to go, and what the objective is. Every FPS game has something like this. <b>Maybe it will be added as an option to turn off later</b>.
--Cory<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Holy ###### yes please make this an option to turn off.
I'll have to test the patch when I get home from work :)
ps: Not sure why you would want new players constantly running at cc or hive, its not an objective point. However you have made the game open source, someone will mod it out for us eventually.
I like the changes to docking :)
--Cory<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
That's a load of non sense. I registered on to these forums just to say how unnecessary it is to have the glowing red CC/hive. In NS1, you didn't need it and I don't believe you need it in NS2.
Sorry Cory, but the consumer is always right.
There are waypoints for a reason... In every screenshot we're going to have the Hive/CC in it. At least have what the first hive as text on the HUD somewhere, I'd much prefer that then it always on my screen. It's also very distracting especially in dark rooms.
It's when you stop listening to 'us' the players of the game, it's then it starts to fall apart.
I also don't care for the building progress bar. It's ugly, the ingame floor circle looks cool and isn't hard to understand.
srsly guys wtf!! One key feature of NS1/2 was to explore the map and now you are showing where the CCs/hives are. Thats just a facepalm.
The rest of the patch, it runs smooth. congrats but i have no fun if i see the hives and CCs and i dont think that you should make it optional the first 2-3 min was about exploring now its only about rush the base.
Do you now in starcraft/warcraft etc. at the start where the enemy base is (random spawns). I dont think so. Next patch please.
Not your best patch....
The rest of the patch, it runs smooth. congrats but i have no fun if i see the hives and CCs and i dont think that you should make it optional the first 2-3 min was about exploring now its only about rush the base.
Do you now in starcraft/warcraft etc. at the start where the enemy base is (random spawns). I dont think so. Next patch please.
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Come on guys, go open up the game at least before you post. You don't see it unless someone gets line of sight.
Why oh why did you buff marines even FURTHER with armory healing armor again ???????????????????
We finally got some teamwork going with people welding eachother and welders are also good to have for destroyed PNs, now that's all POINTLESS cos you can just run back to armory!
What about lerk battles again? Marine hugs armory 1-2 sec and the lerks 20s of work is nullified? It's really boring as marine.
As for red glowing hives on HUD, why? Just make them be spotted on minimap, like any other RTS (hives and all other spotted buildings, but greyed out so one knows they're not in LOS).
Lot's of redundant additions. Build 216 has only made the game worse.
It reminds me of this video - <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-LE0ycgkBQ" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-LE0ycgkBQ</a>