Ns Copied ?

Flying-BastardFlying-Bastard Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1859Members
edited December 2002 in NS General Discussion
<div class="IPBDescription">Is ns being copied as another game ?</div> I dont know about you guys, but there is a new game called "savage" that,apparenttly, is the same "type" as NS. I dont know much about it, but i know that it is set in a "Celtic"-ish or "medieval"-ish world (not so sure about it but whatever..). there are players who play as rts and others as fps. remember i dont know much about it but could it be a copy of ns ?


**note***: i just read there web-site. Graphicaly, its great, but it is THE SAME gameplay as NS. FULL SAME. They use "commander" for rts thigny too. what the hell is happening here ? and NO im not doing publicity for them


www.s2games.com
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  • MouseMouse The Lighter Side of Pessimism Join Date: 2002-03-02 Member: 263Members, NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow
    I remember reading about this a while ago. It's no big deal though, just because NS was first doesn't make everything after it a copy
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  • GreedoGreedo Bounty Hunter Join Date: 2002-01-24 Member: 37Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    Starcraft == Warcraft == Command and Conquer == any other top down RTS game.

    Of course, this is a foolish notion. Savage isn't an NS clone.
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  • Flying-BastardFlying-Bastard Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1859Members
    edited December 2002
    ook. maybe ive gone a little too far. Its just seeing another game (thats actually going to be released and selled) that has the same basics that NS actually, well, created, is kinda "frustrating". Bleh, we are still gonna play ns. arent we ? ;P

    **greedo** this game isnt just rts, its fps too and thats what made me post this. (quake=halflife=unreal= any other first person shooter, <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->). bleh, nvm
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  • SiniSSiniS Join Date: 2002-11-26 Member: 10017Members
    When I first heard about NS I thought it was clone of Quake 2: Gloom
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  • MirageMirage Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 1993Members
    I wish people would stop cloning Space Invaders already.
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  • sendersender Join Date: 2002-11-12 Member: 8337Members
    ofn

    (for the TW peeps)
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  • Dan_ForeverDan_Forever Join Date: 2002-08-02 Member: 1054Members
    Savage is the same as ns in that it has a "commander mode" but other then that it's different. For one, it's in large open areas and marines and aliens are replaced by cavemen afaik
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  • Go7Go7 Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2553Members
    Battlezone 1 and 2 beat NS to the FPS/RTS hybrid mix. There was also a game that came out close to BZ2's release that, published by Microsoft, that did the same. Another game was an RTS/TPS (third person shooter) mix.

    But i do think NS is the first game to mix RTS and standard FPS gameplay (ie troops/infantry). The other games were mostly vehicles.

    now that i know Savage is tryin to mix it up.. i have to check the game out. Before i didn't give a damn about the game. lol
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  • LarofeticusLarofeticus Join Date: 2002-10-30 Member: 1764Members
    NS = free, good, good community and developer support (like the best i've seen of any game ever)
    This celtic game = Not free, not nessecarily good

    hmmm... ponder ponder...
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  • kiwakaikiwakai Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 3353Members
    I heard of Savage long before I heard of NS.
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  • SevendashsevenSevendashseven Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 3357Members
    Team Fortress 2, anyone? <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • LegionnairedLegionnaired Join Date: 2002-04-30 Member: 552Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--Sevendashseven+Dec 21 2002, 02:29 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Sevendashseven @ Dec 21 2002, 02:29 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Team Fortress 2, anyone? <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Vaporware, anyone?

    The Commander was a NPC, I do believe.
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  • MissyMissy Join Date: 2002-12-20 Member: 11246Members, Constellation
    edited December 2002
    bah copied my butt

    ns is a FPSRTSS using the half-life engine
    so its better

    there is no crime in using similar storylines and Sci-Fi ideas... sif human Vs Alien is a novel concept
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  • Flying-BastardFlying-Bastard Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1859Members
    bleh.. battlezone (which i consider as the third best game of the universe behind halflife and starcraft(ns is with hl)) is different cuz when you build, its in the fps section. yes there is a sattelite thigny where you can build in top view but its different. there was another game called hotsile waters i think but its a batllezone rip off. for the rest ur right Go7. the big deal wit ns is the fact that it uses the engine of a first person shooter to make a top view rts game. bleh, just say what you think here
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  • Scorpion571Scorpion571 Join Date: 2002-11-24 Member: 9800Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Greedo386+Dec 20 2002, 07:02 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Greedo386 @ Dec 20 2002, 07:02 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Starcraft == Warcraft == Command and Conquer == any other top down RTS game.

    Of course, this is a foolish notion.  Savage isn't an NS clone.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Starcraft does <b>not</b> = Warcraft.
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  • CoolHungDaddyCoolHungDaddy Join Date: 2002-11-28 Member: 10148Members
    Did anyone bother to read the game description of savage on their website? It sounds alot like NS. So maybe it is a clone. But this is what happens to a good gaming idea, it gets cloned or modified or whatever. The first RTS game was Dune but the first one to make a lasting impression was Starcraft. The first FPS was wolfenstein3d, but Doom took most of the credits (and sold awfully well).
    There is a post on the savage website where people argue which game might be better. Until the game isn't finished this is ridicoulus. So lets wait and see what Savage has to offer and form an opinion then.

    Prota
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  • DanSTCDanSTC Join Date: 2002-11-26 Member: 10046Members
    Oh no! Here's another game that's ripping off Natural Selection! Their site is here: <a href='http://avp2.sierra.com/' target='_blank'>http://avp2.sierra.com/</a>

    Someone should sue those guys for copying other people's hard work!
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  • FlatlineUTDFlatlineUTD Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7695Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Legionnaired+Dec 20 2002, 09:31 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Legionnaired @ Dec 20 2002, 09:31 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin--Sevendashseven+Dec 21 2002, 02:29 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Sevendashseven @ Dec 21 2002, 02:29 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Team Fortress 2, anyone? <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Vaporware, anyone?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I just got out of an Intel/Ritual Entertainment workshop at CPL, and they refused to comment on TFC2, saying they're focusing entirely on Condition Zero right now. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->

    Vaporware is right. Whatever happened to that Duke Nukem game? I've forgotten what it's called since it's been so long.
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  • Flying-BastardFlying-Bastard Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1859Members
    omg... guys <b>all go to this site <a href='http://forums.s2games.com/6/ubb.x?q=Y&a=tpc&s=100600955&f=971600065&m=1476061871&p=1' target='_blank'>http://forums.s2games.com/6/ubb.x?q=Y&a=tp...=1476061871&p=1</a> this is the thread at savage forum where they talk about the similarities. read it, its soooo funny !</b> hope you guys like it. YES its different but well, ns is for futuristic and scarry, savage is for medieval/ish and epic warfare.
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  • AhnteisAhnteis teh Bob Join Date: 2002-10-02 Member: 1405Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->The Commander was a NPC, I do believe. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Errr no. The commander was going to be similar to the NS comm and it's likely that this inspired Flayra in part. (I don't remember reading anything about an RTS view in the original design docs on his site.) It doesn't matter in any case, similar games exist (to just about every game). Welcome to the real world.
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  • BedwettingTypeBedwettingType Join Date: 2002-07-26 Member: 1001Members
    Stupid game developers. When are they gonna stop copying Pong?
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