Mini-Cysts

Unknown_SoldierUnknown_Soldier Join Date: 2002-11-03 Member: 6395Members
<div class="IPBDescription">Let Them Evolve</div>So I'm sure everyone is happy with mini-cysts being resource-free now, but I know a lot of people are not happy with them disappearing when they're part of the cyst chain.

My suggestion is to give them a 2-3 minute period where they mature and at the end of the maturation have them become <b><u>permanent</u></b> fully grown cysts that are no longer connected to the Gorge. This would remove the issue of disconnected cyst chains, and the maturation period would prevent Gorges from spamming cysts.

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  • XariusXarius Join Date: 2003-12-21 Member: 24630Members, Reinforced - Supporter
  • killer monkeykiller monkey Join Date: 2010-02-26 Member: 70743Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    It would be stupid if this didnt happen.
  • TechercizerTechercizer 7th Player Join Date: 2011-06-11 Member: 103832Members
    edited April 2012
    No thanks. Removes the point of cysts costing tres.

    If you want your cyst chain to last, buff up your mini-cyst chains with actual ones. If you want it to be disposable, just throw the little guys out there and enjoy not having to worry about them. Gorges are a supplement for the commander, not a substitute.
  • PsiWarpPsiWarp Gifted Gorge Richmond, B.C., Canada Join Date: 2010-08-28 Member: 73810Members
    Maybe if the Comm can pay 2 TRes to upgrade a Mini-Cyst to a Cyst? If Mini-Cysts were made mature-able, the Maturity could carry over to the newly upgraded Cyst, perhaps.
  • SkyPirateSkyPirate Join Date: 2012-02-19 Member: 146845Members
  • Unknown_SoldierUnknown_Soldier Join Date: 2002-11-03 Member: 6395Members
    edited April 2012
    <!--quoteo(post=1930583:date=Apr 27 2012, 02:04 AM:name=Techercizer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Techercizer @ Apr 27 2012, 02:04 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1930583"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->No thanks. Removes the point of cysts costing tres.

    If you want your cyst chain to last, buff up your mini-cyst chains with actual ones. If you want it to be disposable, just throw the little guys out there and enjoy not having to worry about them. Gorges are a supplement for the commander, not a substitute.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Gorges being a supplement is part of a <a href="http://www.unknownworlds.com/ns2/forums/index.php?s=&showtopic=118069&view=findpost&p=1930692" target="_blank">bigger problem</a> plaguing the game right now, but that's on an entirely different matter.

    Fact is most of the important cyst expansion happens early. Gorges have a small limit on the number of mini-cysts they can drop combined with those mini-cysts already having a shorter range for connecting the cyst chain. At best if a Gorge dropped all 5 of their mini-cysts (thus delaying them the ability to drop Hydras in their place of choice) they might save the commander 2 or 3 cysts. Also note that the commander can drop those cysts far faster and with far more efficiency than Gorges (who can't see the limit of the cyst chain without fooling around a bit).

    I really can't see Gorges dropping mini-cysts becoming the main source of early cyst expansion. Mostly what this would help is if Gorges have expanded off to the side of the cyst chain and then that offers the commander the option to later in the game expand upon that expansion. When that happens right now (build 206) is the commander doesn't really know if those were their cysts or if a Gorge dropped them. Suddenly later in the game the same Gorge had to drop multiple cysts elsewhere and the cyst chain ends up with a large gap in it.

    This idea would allow Gorges to <b>supplement</b> the cyst chain off in a direction they initially required for Hydras, without really affecting Alien early-game Alien expansion (due to limit of mini-cysts and time limit before the Gorge can be freed of the mini-cyst), as well as offer a solution to cyst chains being randomly and accidentally broken.
  • KuBaNKuBaN Join Date: 2002-11-16 Member: 8979Members, Constellation
    I've been thinking about Mini-Cysts evolving into Hydras: a self-defending Cyst that only a Gorge can provide. Hydras could then by limited indirectly by the Mini-Cyst cap, have their build times delayed by the Mini-Cysts maturation time (delays the dreaded Gorge rush).

    I also thought it'd be interesting if, when damaged, Hydras spawned individual hydra heads nearby that shot it's own projectile. The more "combat experience" a Hydra has, the more heads it would have. This is probably not entirely on topic, however.
  • Unknown_SoldierUnknown_Soldier Join Date: 2002-11-03 Member: 6395Members
    Just bumping because I've seen some people talking about this on GD.
  • ScardyBobScardyBob ScardyBob Join Date: 2009-11-25 Member: 69528Forum Admins, Forum Moderators, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow
    <!--quoteo(post=1930586:date=Apr 26 2012, 10:18 PM:name=PsiWarp)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PsiWarp @ Apr 26 2012, 10:18 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1930586"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Maybe if the Comm can pay 2 TRes to upgrade a Mini-Cyst to a Cyst? If Mini-Cysts were made mature-able, the Maturity could carry over to the newly upgraded Cyst, perhaps.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    This would be my preferred solution. I think it makes sense that any permanent cyst should cost TRes.
  • OutlawDrOutlawDr Join Date: 2009-06-21 Member: 67887Members
    Also, alien comm needs to be able to distinguish cysts from mini-cysts. Right not they both look the same.
  • TriggermanTriggerman Graphic Artist Join Date: 2004-11-10 Member: 32724Members, WC 2013 - Supporter
    edited May 2012
    -snip-

    Misjudged it to be General Discussion, don't want to rain down on your suggestion.
  • PricePrice Join Date: 2003-09-27 Member: 21247Members
    edited May 2012
    <!--quoteo(post=1930606:date=Apr 27 2012, 11:42 AM:name=SkyPirate)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SkyPirate @ Apr 27 2012, 11:42 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1930606"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I like the idea<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    This!
    or give the AC the ability to upgrade gorge cysts for 1 res to default cysts.
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