Black Armor abilities

EarthEarth Join Date: 2009-07-23 Member: 68243Members
edited April 2012 in NS2 General Discussion
<div class="IPBDescription">omg</div>So after testing the game on the same rig setup and furiously monitoring multiple gameplay videos, I am convinced that black armor gives multiple advantages to the character.

The most obvious is the accuracy of the weapons. Most anytime a black armor is playing his weapons tend to either have less recoil or better damage because they are always killing the most.

Next is the dodging. If you've ever tried to play against a black armor you know they are hard as hell top hit. The armor lets the player evade and camouflage way better.

And finally, the most obvious is the wall hacks. Because they can run around a map and never hit a dead end or get lost, like they know where they are going.
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  • Super Angus BoySuper Angus Boy Join Date: 2012-04-01 Member: 149771Members
    I can confirm the wall hacks. Aiming is hard, though.
  • DrakennzDrakennz Join Date: 2012-03-11 Member: 148620Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1927522:date=Apr 20 2012, 04:28 PM:name=Earth)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Earth @ Apr 20 2012, 04:28 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1927522"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->And finally, the most obvious is the wall hacks. Because they can run around a map and never hit a dead end or get lost, like they know where they are going.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    This comes naturally with playing the game a while, especially with only 3 official maps :D
  • YbarraYbarra Join Date: 2012-03-29 Member: 149621Members, Squad Five Blue
  • LuitjensLuitjens Join Date: 2010-07-26 Member: 73034Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow, Subnautica Playtester
    I agree, I was too powerful with the black armor and now for some reason, I was nerfed, I am now a green-skin and I am losing out in a lot of fights. I JUST DO NOT UNDERSTAND!
  • DarkOmenDarkOmen Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 7148Members
    I think black armor is in need of a slight nerf. Maybe -10% less damage, or increased weapon costs, since they always get a good investment for their purchases.
  • hamham Join Date: 2011-08-31 Member: 119370Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1927523:date=Apr 19 2012, 08:32 PM:name=Super Angus Boy)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Super Angus Boy @ Apr 19 2012, 08:32 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1927523"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I can confirm the wall hacks. Aiming is hard, though.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    you bought the pax dlc, shut your mouth
  • BlitzThoseBlitzThose Aberdeen, Scotland Join Date: 2010-04-11 Member: 71342Members, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow
    <!--quoteo(post=1927522:date=Apr 20 2012, 05:28 AM:name=Earth)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Earth @ Apr 20 2012, 05:28 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1927522"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->So after testing the game on the same rig setup and furiously monitoring multiple gameplay videos, I am convinced that black armor gives multiple advantages to the character.

    The most obvious is the accuracy of the weapons. Most anytime a black armor is playing his weapons tend to either have less recoil or better damage because they are always killing the most.

    Next is the dodging. If you've ever tried to play against a black armor you know they are hard as hell top hit. The armor lets the player evade and camouflage way better.

    And finally, the most obvious is the wall hacks. Because they can run around a map and never hit a dead end or get lost, like they know where they are going.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->


    I have black armor yet you have obviously never seen me play. Im terrible at this game always have been but I dont care I have fun regardless
  • gage_czgage_cz Join Date: 2010-01-23 Member: 70271Members
    edited April 2012
    We should consider Black Armor v2.0
  • Chris0132Chris0132 Join Date: 2009-07-25 Member: 68262Members
    You missed out the cloaking device and night vision.
  • DrummerDrummer Join Date: 2004-02-18 Member: 26654Members
    the answer is quite simple, black armor has more nanites
  • matframatfra Join Date: 2004-01-10 Member: 25206Members, Constellation
    I have paid for the black armor, but since I 100% play alien I never use it, also, you cannot see a 3rd person of yourself lol.
    I tought it was all visual and it wasnt giving any advantage. And also I was sure black armor was not implemented yet.
    Can you post a screenshot of a marines without a black armor and with a black armor please.
  • GsemiaGsemia Join Date: 2011-01-28 Member: 79297Members
    edited April 2012
    <!--quoteo(post=1927607:date=Apr 20 2012, 12:13 PM:name=matfra)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (matfra @ Apr 20 2012, 12:13 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1927607"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I have paid for the black armor, but since I 100% play alien I never use it, also, you cannot see a 3rd person of yourself lol.
    I tought it was all visual and it wasnt giving any advantage. And also I was sure black armor was not implemented yet.
    Can you post a screenshot of a marines without a black armor and with a black armor please.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    <!--coloro:red--><span style="color:red"><!--/coloro-->*IMAGE BALEETED.* This is not an image macro board. Let's keep it that way. -Talesin<!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc-->

    OK.. you are a constellation member.. you can't be stupid :) so troll yourself :)

    I can agree with the fact, that I get more thrill while fighting against a black armored Marine :) In the past where we did not have this fade to black after death it was even worse, since you could see your nemesis. Today its often unclear if it was a black or green armor guy.
    I can't imagine what it feels like to fight against me :) Some people were sure hating me.. specially if I played on my own server with a ping of 7 :) Got called a cheater and worse :)
  • Kouji_SanKouji_San Sr. Hινε Uρкεερεг - EUPT Deputy The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    I remember a time when the Fade used to be the one with Black armor...
  • SkieSkie Skulk Progenitor Join Date: 2003-10-18 Member: 21766Members, NS2 Playtester, Reinforced - Shadow
    The black armor rewards the early un-niggardly people with amazing prowess.
    Learn to fear us. Unless you're playing against Mendasp or something.
  • ImbalanxdImbalanxd Join Date: 2011-06-15 Member: 104581Members
    There also seems to be an echo script associated with the black armour that lets it communicate with other black armours. I regularly see black armour users typing "back in NS1 ..." which must be code for something.
  • Kouji_SanKouji_San Sr. Hινε Uρкεερεг - EUPT Deputy The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    <!--quoteo(post=1927670:date=Apr 20 2012, 01:08 PM:name=Imbalanxd)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Imbalanxd @ Apr 20 2012, 01:08 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1927670"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->There also seems to be an echo script associated with the black armour that lets it communicate with other black armours. I regularly see black armour users typing "back in NS1 ..." which must be code for something.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Don't give away the codes man! <i>"Why back in my day we didn't have all these whipper-snappers running around"</i>
  • TechercizerTechercizer 7th Player Join Date: 2011-06-11 Member: 103832Members
    Can confirm OP's observations. Additionally, Green Armor appears to make Marines approx 15% tastier and at least 33% easier to unwrap on average.
  • MendaspMendasp I touch maps in inappropriate places Valencia, Spain Join Date: 2002-07-05 Member: 884Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Gold, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow, Retired Community Developer
    <!--quoteo(post=1927668:date=Apr 20 2012, 03:08 PM:name=Skie)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Skie @ Apr 20 2012, 03:08 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1927668"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->The black armor rewards the early un-niggardly people with amazing prowess.
    Learn to fear us. Unless you're playing against Mendasp or something.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    You insulted my honor! I demand satisfaction! I challenge you to a duel!
    1v1 de_dust2
  • TechercizerTechercizer 7th Player Join Date: 2011-06-11 Member: 103832Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1927822:date=Apr 20 2012, 02:11 PM:name=Mendasp)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mendasp @ Apr 20 2012, 02:11 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1927822"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->You insulted my honor! I demand satisfaction! I challenge you to a duel!
    1v1 de_dust2<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    do you accept cp_balloon_race as a replacement?
  • WheeeeWheeee Join Date: 2003-02-18 Member: 13713Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    Man i'm quitting the game, i thought UWE was a team with ethics, a team with solid moral principles. Allowing people to buy in-game perks that give an unfair advantage over f2p players? FOR SHAME.
  • DghelneshiDghelneshi Aims to surpass Fana in post edits. Join Date: 2011-11-01 Member: 130634Members, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--quoteo(post=1927838:date=Apr 20 2012, 09:52 PM:name=Wheeee)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Wheeee @ Apr 20 2012, 09:52 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1927838"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Man i'm quitting the game, i thought UWE was a team with ethics, a team with solid moral principles. Allowing people to buy in-game perks that give an unfair advantage over f2p players? FOR SHAME.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    UWE? That hacker clan? They're SO annoying! I will seriously quit the game if these guys aren't globally banned soon!
  • TechercizerTechercizer 7th Player Join Date: 2011-06-11 Member: 103832Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1927844:date=Apr 20 2012, 03:05 PM:name=Dghelneshi)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dghelneshi @ Apr 20 2012, 03:05 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1927844"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->UWE? That hacker clan? They're SO annoying! I will seriously quit the game if these guys aren't globally banned soon!<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Those guys have hacked the game so much I can't even tell it's the same one I started playing 10 years ago.
  • LV426-ColonistLV426-Colonist Space Jockey Join Date: 2011-08-05 Member: 114269Members, Constellation
    Black armor gives you all sorts of bonuses; such as but not limited to:

    -extra health
    -faster movement speed
    -increased armor rating
    -you jump much higher than normal
    -often your gun will shoot skulks without you firing
  • FloodinatorFloodinator [HBZ] Member Join Date: 2005-02-22 Member: 42087Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    edited April 2012
    They sometimes also can walk up walls and surprise you in a high vent.
    And the black armors that wear jeans can make skulks getting stuck by knocking em down with the Rifle.
    I even heard a rumor about the Exodus Black Armor that shined golden the moment you died by his barehands as alien, TSF planed massproduction of a klone from him but delivery is delayed till end of summer.
  • matframatfra Join Date: 2004-01-10 Member: 25206Members, Constellation
    Really, black armor give a bonus ????
    I tought it was just a skin look.
    If its the case, alien skulk shold have a black skin too.
  • TechercizerTechercizer 7th Player Join Date: 2011-06-11 Member: 103832Members
    edited April 2012
    <!--quoteo(post=1927900:date=Apr 20 2012, 05:37 PM:name=matfra)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (matfra @ Apr 20 2012, 05:37 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1927900"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Really, black armor give a bonus ????
    I tought it was just a skin look.
    If its the case, alien skulk shold have a black skin too.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    - xbox 360 avatar
    - bad spelling and grammar

    - Constellation member?

    Not sure if serious...
  • playerplayer Join Date: 2010-09-12 Member: 73982Members
  • TechercizerTechercizer 7th Player Join Date: 2011-06-11 Member: 103832Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1927997:date=Apr 20 2012, 11:02 PM:name=player)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (player @ Apr 20 2012, 11:02 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1927997"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->He's Canadian.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Now really not sure if serious.
  • EarthEarth Join Date: 2009-07-23 Member: 68243Members
    I think we should bring this up to the devs.
  • TechercizerTechercizer 7th Player Join Date: 2011-06-11 Member: 103832Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1928005:date=Apr 20 2012, 11:34 PM:name=Earth)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Earth @ Apr 20 2012, 11:34 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1928005"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I think we should bring this up to the devs.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Only Black Armor users have that ability. :/

    No wonder people are always trying to get a key.
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