Armorys Give Out Hp?

elimelim Join Date: 2002-11-17 Member: 9006Members, Constellation
<div class="IPBDescription">Im curious and puzzled...</div> Whats this about Armory's giving HP if it is scripted with admin mod? Just wondering, I play at Misfires server and never see this. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • Frogg2Frogg2 Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4867Members, Constellation
    yeah its a server mod on the voogru server.
  • elimelim Join Date: 2002-11-17 Member: 9006Members, Constellation
  • NukeitalllNukeitalll Join Date: 2002-11-29 Member: 10208Members
    IF the NS team wanted armories to dispense health, they would have included it.

    I regard this as butchering the game.
  • NubiNubi Join Date: 2002-11-10 Member: 8026Members
    Me too, nuke, that's why I only play on the real NS servers

    not stupid pass-offs that people do cause they're not satisfied with a good game
  • MavericMaveric Join Date: 2002-08-07 Member: 1101Members
    armories were never meant to give out health at all. dont get too attached to it, since it isn't on every server.

    ballance issues w/ such an idea is enormous.

    admin mod scripts are e-vil. e-vil i tell you!
  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    LOoK

    if you don't like voogru's server JUST DON'T PLAY THERE

    some people probably think NS is butchering HLDM, so you know what they do? they play HLDM

    yes, voogru's server (only one I know that has the mod) lets you:
    1) get HP form armoury
    2) NVGs if you have observatoory
    3) aliens can put Rez into a comon pot so that toheres can get em
  • SemperFiSemperFi Join Date: 2002-08-02 Member: 1049Members
    Yeah i went to play there before once, and i just read the connect messgae it said all that stuff. So i just cancelled my connect and didnt play there. I wonder how the NVG looks though <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->.
  • NukeitalllNukeitalll Join Date: 2002-11-29 Member: 10208Members
    Again, a few servers have this mod, and quite frankly every time I join a server that is running it I shake my head and leave.

    Dont like something in the mod? tough, let the team deal with it.

    It's like saying "hey, nice car...let's add 2 more wheels, another ashtray..some fuzzy dice.." without asking.

    It's stupid, and I for one am against it.
  • death1death1 Join Date: 2002-11-16 Member: 8920Members
    its not adminmod... voogru wrote his own server side stuffs, i think. there are plenty of other posts about it...

    -d$
  • elimelim Join Date: 2002-11-17 Member: 9006Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->3) aliens can put Rez into a comon pot so that toheres can get em <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    huh?
  • NukeitalllNukeitalll Join Date: 2002-11-29 Member: 10208Members
    edited December 2002
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  • SemperFiSemperFi Join Date: 2002-08-02 Member: 1049Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--.eLiMiNaToR.+Dec 19 2002, 03:43 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (.eLiMiNaToR. @ Dec 19 2002, 03:43 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->3) aliens can put Rez into a comon pot so that toheres can get em <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    huh?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    The aliens can deposit res into the hive or community pot................or something.
  • saberxsaberx Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 3044Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--|SemperFi|+Dec 18 2002, 09:49 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (|SemperFi| @ Dec 18 2002, 09:49 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin--.eLiMiNaToR.+Dec 19 2002, 03:43 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (.eLiMiNaToR. @ Dec 19 2002, 03:43 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->3) aliens can put Rez into a comon pot so that toheres can get em <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    huh?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    The aliens can deposit res into the hive or community pot................or something.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    ..and you lose resource points when you die. Real fun.
  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    you look at the hive, type something like give xxx (xxx= #)

    then other aliens can look at the hive and hold the use key to get Rez out of it (great for gorges)

    as for the NVG, they look like crqap and don't do anything
  • KingKahuna[KKG]™KingKahuna[KKG]™ Join Date: 2002-11-21 Member: 9507Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin--Maveric+Dec 18 2002, 10:38 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Maveric @ Dec 18 2002, 10:38 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->armories were never meant to give out health at all. dont get too attached to it, since it isn't on every server.

    ballance issues w/ such an idea is enormous.

    admin mod scripts are e-vil. e-vil i tell you!<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    you people amaze me.

    voogru doesn't use admin mod scripts. We write our OWN code in C++;
  • KingKahuna[KKG]™KingKahuna[KKG]™ Join Date: 2002-11-21 Member: 9507Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin--|SemperFi|+Dec 18 2002, 10:42 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (|SemperFi| @ Dec 18 2002, 10:42 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Yeah i went to play there before once, and i just read the connect messgae it said all that stuff. So i just cancelled my connect and didnt play there. I wonder how the NVG looks though <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    You'll never find out, now will you.

    unless you connect of course.
  • KingKahuna[KKG]™KingKahuna[KKG]™ Join Date: 2002-11-21 Member: 9507Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin--Thansal+Dec 18 2002, 10:52 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Thansal @ Dec 18 2002, 10:52 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->you look at the hive, type something like give xxx (xxx= #)

    then other aliens can look at the hive and hold the use key to get Rez out of it (great for gorges)

    as for the NVG, they look like crqap and don't do anything<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    You look at the hive; or another team member; and type giveres #. Easy. If you want to take resources from hive; just press the use key.

    Really cool feature, especially on a PUBLIC server w/tons of n00b gorges.

    As for the NVG. It looks exactly like NVG in real life. Call it crap; but it's very close to real.
  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    kahuna, use the edit post button, it is just sorta polite

    as for NVGs, meh they are not worth it
  • Heresy_FnordHeresy_Fnord Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 7207Members
    I'd say those servers are a butchered NS "mod" but I might get in trouble. Apparently it is not apropriate to say how much that mod sucks. You can only talk about how good it is.

    ...

    Which it isn't. Voogru has taken a great game and unbalanced it. Some people find it fun. I guess all is fair since all these mods are free.

    If you want to play the original better version of the game a warning to you all, DO NOT PLAY ON VOOGRU servers.

    I hope no one takes my PERSONAL OPINION to hardly.
  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    nowthen, if you had posted like that before it would be ok, look so long as oyu make it clear:
    I don't like it, I think it is bad, thus I will not play there
    however I am not a tool who will try to force my opinions on other


    all is cool <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • voogruvoogru Naturally Modified (ex. NS programmer) Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1827Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, Constellation
    edited December 2002
    <!--QuoteBegin--saberx+Dec 18 2002, 10:51 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (saberx @ Dec 18 2002, 10:51 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->..and you lose resource points when you die.  Real fun.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    A random of 1/4th to 1/6th of your resources are sent to the hive whe nyou die, if your a gorg all but 33 are sent to the hive. you can always get them back out of the hive but it does that so other players can make use of the resources (since your dead) Also if your a gorg with 100 resources, then fall and die, 67 resources which would have been lost are put into the hive for team mates to take.

    This was put in so i could counter the effect of NVG and Armory's giving out HP, i needed to give aliens something cool.

    Ever since i started logging team wins,

    The marines have won 230 rounds, and the aliens have won 212 rounds. Before resource sharing it was marines 10 aliens 2.

    (king, ya use edit and dont keep posting, kinda dumb to keep posting no offense)
  • Ugly_JimUgly_Jim Join Date: 2002-11-29 Member: 10235Members
  • Teufel_EldritchTeufel_Eldritch Join Date: 2002-01-28 Member: 124Members
    night vision goggles
  • Heresy_FnordHeresy_Fnord Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 7207Members
    edited December 2002
    <!--QuoteBegin--Thansal+Dec 18 2002, 11:59 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Thansal @ Dec 18 2002, 11:59 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->nowthen, if you had posted like that before it would be ok, look so long as oyu make it clear:
    I don't like it, I think it is bad, thus I will not play there
    however I am not a tool who will try to force my opinions on other


    all is cool <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    All is not cool. I am not a tool nor have I ever been.

    But I did talk **obscenity** about the server because it sucks, HARD.

    What is irritating is that I never said anything about you yet YOU attacked me. You're the one being the tool for some server you apparently don't care for anyway, if my memory serves. (You mentioned something about not carrying to play there because of the NVG, perhaps I am wrong)

    You and black hawk both, who had zero constructive thoughts on my post and rather leaped forth with talons out as if I had personally attacked you. Who cares what I think. It doesn't matter. If you care that much though about what I think then you or he/she can privately email me or ICQ or AIM me or YahooIM me orwhatever you like.

    It wouldn't have been a problem had you conducted yourselves properly.
  • LestatLestat Join Date: 2002-11-16 Member: 8935Members
    Bah yeah as everyone says you don't like it don't play there. I myself would not enjoy that at all frankly I see it as a waste of time and effort to change it in that way. But some people will always do it and a minority will enjoy it so let them just have their few changed servers and the majority stick to the ones that do not tamper with the game
  • Heresy_FnordHeresy_Fnord Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 7207Members
    edited December 2002
    <!--QuoteBegin--Lestat+Dec 19 2002, 01:33 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Lestat @ Dec 19 2002, 01:33 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Bah yeah as everyone says you don't like it don't play there. I myself would not enjoy that at all frankly I see it as a waste of time and effort to change it in that way. But some people will always do it and a minority will enjoy it so let them just have their few changed servers and the majority stick to the ones that do not tamper with the game<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I'm fine with that. You know in the end why I'm mad?

    If they want to run the servers that's fine.

    But if I want to NOT like them that should be fine to.

    One, I have an opinion of the servers they run and since it is not in favor of them, random people take it upon themselves to tell me how "pick an obsene word" I am.

    As long as there are people posting about how they like voogru I plan and telling them how much I dislike it.

    I would never tell someone how dumb they are for liking it.

    However, if someone attacks me personally because I made fun of their server or a server they play on, I'm going to rip them a new **obscenity** as they have done to me. End of story.

    They want to talk about the server and how great it is, fine. I can accept that. I just want people to accept my opinion too.
  • KingKahuna[KKG]™KingKahuna[KKG]™ Join Date: 2002-11-21 Member: 9507Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin--Nukeitalll+Dec 18 2002, 10:36 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nukeitalll @ Dec 18 2002, 10:36 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->IF the NS team wanted armories to dispense health, they would have included it.

    I regard this as butchering the game.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Well; since they didn't, WE INCLUDED IT. Isn't America wonderful.

    Regard it however you wish.

    I'll make the same arguement about Half-Life. If the HL team wanted a mod like NS; they would have included it.

    I regard this a butchering the Half-Life game.

    NOT

    Why don't you people get a life, and stop whinning all the time. You may find life more enjoyable.
  • KingKahuna[KKG]™KingKahuna[KKG]™ Join Date: 2002-11-21 Member: 9507Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin--Thansal+Dec 18 2002, 11:11 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Thansal @ Dec 18 2002, 11:11 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->kahuna, use the edit post button, it is just sorta polite

    as for NVGs, meh they are not worth it<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Actually, I'm not really much in mood to be polite to most of you here. NO one here has decided to treat us politely.

    I'll never flame you; or call you name.
  • VenmochVenmoch Join Date: 2002-08-07 Member: 1093Members
    I HAVE played on Voogru's server. I have my own opinions on it. However I can also see the amount of time and dedication it must have taken to code the addition.

    However! The ideas that were implimented altered Flayra's ideas for NS. There wasn't going to be any Night Vision because the idea was for the areas to be dark so aliens get an oppertunity to hide in the dark areas and spook the marines. Ask me what my best moments are and they'll involve dark corridoors and a skulk. (Heras Maintenance corridoor in particular) Adding Night Vision removes this part of NS that is what makes it good. I know you need an observatory and everything but it still changes the style of NS.

    The Medpack/Armoury thingy is alright in theory but it also changes/replaces the commanders roll in NS. Instead of having to get a commander to decide wheather the marine deserves that shiny medpack. However instead of this we have commanders with the need to build one of these in every room. That also makes it harder for the aliens to attack back. (Yes I know about the 2 hp per use etc)

    I admire the work you guys have done I just wish you'd looked into the philosophy of NS first.

    Disclaimer: These Are Just My Opinions
  • AaronAaron vroom vroom der party startah Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 7020Members
    edited December 2002
    <span style='color:red'><b>If you don't have anything nice to say...</span></b>
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