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WrathWrath Join Date: 2002-12-14 Member: 10815Members
<div class="IPBDescription">I need help running a server</div> <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo-->

Lo all, i need help running a server for NS, the problem being is that i have never run a server before. I want to be able to run a server and play on the same machine is this possible.

System spec - P4 2.4 Ghz, 768 RAM, Windows xp.

Please help if you can ........Thx

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  • VadakillVadakill The Almighty BSO Join Date: 2002-04-02 Member: 373Members, NS1 Playtester
    Yes it's possible. Depends what you want to do and how many people you want to be able to host. If you just want a server to be up when you play you can set up a listen server. If you want it to be dedicated you can do that too.

    One of the most important things is finding out how much bandwidth you have, specifically upload. To host a 12 player server I use around 220kbps (22KB) a sec upload, most cable and DSL accounts nowadays have only 128 kbits (12.8KB) upload/upstream. You can find out how much you have by going to a bandwidth testing site like DSLreports.com which will test both your incoming and outgoing bandwidth amounts.

    Other then that, you have a plenty powerful system and it would make for an excellent server.
  • WrathWrath Join Date: 2002-12-14 Member: 10815Members
    edited December 2002
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    465 / 362
    Your download speed : 465308 bps, or 465 kbps.
    A 56.8 KB/sec transfer rate.
    Your upload speed : 362450 bps, or 362 kbps.

    <a href='http://www.dslreports.com/speedtests/465308;362450;3b82144604e85da5da2455df8a36cf8c;2.0;nyc.speakeasy.net/1039924197' target='_blank'>http://www.dslreports.com/speedtests/46530....net/1039924197</a>

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    So now what, where do i get software from, how do i use it <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->

    Thx
  • WrathWrath Join Date: 2002-12-14 Member: 10815Members
    edited December 2002
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    Here is another -

    <a href='http://www.dslreports.com/speedtests/527647;241196;487493338e16504a46ba7324a1949656;2.0;nyc.speakeasy.net/1039970338' target='_blank'>http://www.dslreports.com/speedtests/52764....net/1039970338</a>

    Down is better but Up isn't
  • VadakillVadakill The Almighty BSO Join Date: 2002-04-02 Member: 373Members, NS1 Playtester
    I'm not a windows admin, I use linux. But I think you have everything you need to run a NS server now if you have half-life and NS installed on your windows machine already. Do a google search for "hlds dedicated server win32" You should come up with something, it will probably be how to set up a CS server but it can be slightly adapted for NS
  • voogruvoogru Naturally Modified (ex. NS programmer) Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1827Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--Vadakill+Dec 15 2002, 03:30 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Vadakill @ Dec 15 2002, 03:30 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->One of the most important things is finding out how much bandwidth you have, specifically upload. To host a 12 player server I use around <b>220kbps (22KB)</b> a sec upload, most cable and DSL accounts nowadays have only 128 kbits (12.8KB) upload/upstream.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Your speeds are wrong, your supposed to divide the bps(BITS per second) by 8 not 10 (8 bits in a byte), so 220kbps is 27.5KBytes/sec not 22.0KBytes/sec, and 128kbps is 16KBytes/s
  • WrathWrath Join Date: 2002-12-14 Member: 10815Members
    I still got an idea of what i needed though.

    Thx Vadakill
  • MonsieurEvilMonsieurEvil Join Date: 2002-01-22 Member: 4Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    (Fixing incorrect topic date due to server issue)
  • VadakillVadakill The Almighty BSO Join Date: 2002-04-02 Member: 373Members, NS1 Playtester
    I was estimating, sheesh. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • cracker_jackmaccracker_jackmac Join Date: 2002-11-04 Member: 6891Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin--Vadakill+Dec 17 2002, 02:59 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Vadakill @ Dec 17 2002, 02:59 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I was estimating, sheesh. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    lol some ppl are just more anal than others. hahaha...just its all gravy...or so i'm told.
  • localhost2600localhost2600 Join Date: 2002-12-04 Member: 10448Members
    if you wanna be picky like that, then complain to HDD manufacturers, they advertise 1gb = 1,000,000,000 bytes, when it's really 1024000000 i think, not that 24 mb is that big a difference

    sry bout off topic, but i couldn't resist
  • MellonpoprMellonpopr Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2304Members
    don't you hate the way they fill potato chip bags with air
  • AaronAaron vroom vroom der party startah Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 7020Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Mellonpopr+Dec 18 2002, 03:19 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Mellonpopr @ Dec 18 2002, 03:19 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->don't you hate the way they fill potato chip bags with air<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yes. I also hate when you buy a bottle of hand lotion or soap or something, and the stem doesn't go all the way down, so you are left with 1/2 inch of stuff you can't use so you have to go out and buy another bottle sooner.
  • Lt_PredatorJ_LGSOLt_PredatorJ_LGSO Join Date: 2002-12-15 Member: 10851Members
    In order to do this , you need to Download the Halflife dedicated server files , then add then the ns server files . Im not real clear on this , but i believe after u set everything up , if u want to run a dedicated server and be able to connect to it on the same box , u need to setup your server with a different port other then 27015 , ie. 27035 or something of that sort. Then your server runs on one port , while u connect as a client via the other port.

    Here are some links to help you out...

    <a href='http://planethalflife.com/commands/howto.shtml' target='_blank'>http://planethalflife.com/commands/howto.shtml</a>

    <a href='http://planethalflife.com/commands/howto.shtml#serverclient' target='_blank'>http://planethalflife.com/commands/howto.s...ml#serverclient</a>

    That whole site is dedicated to just such things. Search around and you should find exactly what u need.

    Hope this helps.
  • r3v0luti0nr3v0luti0n Join Date: 2002-12-11 Member: 10528Members
    edited December 2002
    you don't even need to download anything; just run HLDS from your machine. HLDS comes w/ the default HL installation. command line should be something like:

    C:\SIERRA\Half-Life\hlds.exe -game ns -noipx -port 27016 +maxplayers 16 +map ns_bast -nojoy +servercfgfile server.cfg +mapcyclefile mapcycle.txt


    most of the command line commands are pretty self explanatory:

    hlds.exe : HL ded server file
    -game ns : declares the mod (NS)
    -noipx : disables IPX lookup and stuffs
    -port 27016 : declares port that HLDS will listen on (<b>make this anything BUT 27015 if you want to play on same machine</b>)
    +maxplayers 16 : max players you want on server
    +map ns_bast : starting map for server
    -nojoy : no joystick use
    +servercfgfile server.cfg : server's config file
    +mapcyclefile mapcycle.txt : server's map list file
  • Lt_PredatorJ_LGSOLt_PredatorJ_LGSO Join Date: 2002-12-15 Member: 10851Members
    Sorry about my incorrect directions downloading the hlds , i was just going off a post at planethalflife/server . My bad.
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