Total Lameness

MMZTrellMMZTrell Join Date: 2002-12-18 Member: 11036Members
<div class="IPBDescription">> 5 people on 1 team</div> Ok I have heard and played on teams where there are more than 5 players on a single team. Yes this is a hard game but I must say it makes you work really hard as a team.

My biggest complaint with this "Feature" is the fact that when a team starts to loose everyone will bail to the RR. I have been on both sides of this fence as most of you have, and wondered why in the world is everyone leaving. Just to make the game go faster, IMHO, thats just lame. I have been in a game, pre 1.03, that lasted about 4 hours, and went back and forth, aliens kicking butt, to marines kicking but, both teams being way uneven for a bit and then getting even again. That, I must say was probabily the best match I have ever played. Granted we were all wiped out afterwards and went and collapsed, but none the less it was an awesome game and would not have been the same with the more than 5 player limit.

Maybe I'm all off the wall but seems to me this takes away from some of the fun of the game.
I agree that the team balance needs to be fixed but that should be the ability of AdminMod. I mean coding it into the game is a good attempt but why not make it where neither team can have more than like 2 players. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->

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  • ShuflYShuflY Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8760Members
    Every situation is different, and I bail depending on a few different things. If you are almost finished, but the enemy is keeping you alive so they can toy with you, I go to ready room. I'm here to play a game, not to watch some newbies tech all the way up and play around. I hate when marines refuse to siege the last hive, or the aliens destroy everything but a single spawn portal. Now, I don't hate the team that won who is causing these problems, I hate the players on my team that lost who refuse to press "F4" to get another game going. What, are these people braindead?

    I never quit unless it is over.
  • uranium_235uranium_235 Join Date: 2002-11-20 Member: 9478Banned
    Every time I play alien I end up fighting the marine team of lamers. They'll sit in our final hive just shooting you as you respawn, while the commander keeps telling them to kill the damn hive. In that case I just go F4.
  • AaronAaron vroom vroom der party startah Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 7020Members
    Server option. 'Nuff said.
  • ShingyBoyShingyBoy Join Date: 2002-11-17 Member: 9086Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->why not make it where neither team can have more than like 2 players.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    so every team can only have 2 players on their side so its gona b a 2v2 on a 4v4 server or something...
  • EdcrabEdcrab Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4324Members
    It's annoying, especially on large games- when on a 16 vs 16 battle (lagfest in most cases) a clan leaves and ends it all. GAH!
    I'm using RR earlier and earlier... even as marines develop their skills they still seem to prefer buggering about to actually finishing off the hive.
  • MMZTrellMMZTrell Join Date: 2002-12-18 Member: 11036Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--ShingyBoy+Dec 18 2002, 08:52 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ShingyBoy @ Dec 18 2002, 08:52 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->why not make it where neither team can have more than like 2 players.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    so every team can only have 2 players on their side so its gona b a 2v2 on a 4v4 server or something...<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    You know that is not what I meant. No more than 2 player difference on either team, that would eliminate the greater than 5 players the other team wins. I have been in a game where a clan left, and as the aliens we had 2 hives and were taking out there base and we lost the game. Now is that fair, NO, in fact its a pain in the *ss.
  • MMZ_TorakMMZ_Torak Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 3770Members
    Heya Trell!

    I do not see the "go to the ready room when your team has no chance of winning" action as being a problem. NS is very RTS based and typically in RTS games you do not get to march in and wipe them off the map. Look at it like Chess, have you EVER actually TAKEN a king? No, does that make it lame? Not at all. Why should I stand around and let you kill me when I have already realised that we have lost. Also, as was posted before, who wants to respawn to an alien base to be killed by marines that won't kill the hive -or- a marine base that has only an infantry portal?
  • MMZTrellMMZTrell Join Date: 2002-12-18 Member: 11036Members
    Torak, I agree with the spawing and being killed, because the other team is being lame.
    And I'm sure we all have been on the team were we keep them alive for the fun of it, but at the same time we usually will end it pretty quick. My complaint is as in example of an entire clan leaving, and were winning and when they leave we lose by default, thats just lame. And maybe something can be done about that. It goes back to the team balance issues. I know there trying to make it fair but making an auto win with more than 5 people isn't cool either.
  • SlycasterSlycaster Limited Edition Join Date: 2002-01-24 Member: 24Members, NS1 Playtester
    <!--QuoteBegin--ShuflY+Dec 18 2002, 05:25 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ShuflY @ Dec 18 2002, 05:25 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I never quit unless it is over.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    This is how it should be done, please do not hit F4 if you see that your team is even remotely losing. It is VERY frustrating for the other players on the team and it ruins the game for them. I know of servers who will kick people who do this, so please do not do it, for the benefit of everyone. If you really can't wait, please don't play, your only making it unfun for everyone else.
  • MMZ_TorakMMZ_Torak Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 3770Members
    the only way I can see it as a problem is if in the middle of a game, before there is a clear victor evident, enough people on the other team leave focring the game to end. In games where the victor is evident and all thats left to do is kill everyone, I still see conceding as a viable option. This game is done, on with the next!
  • TazolTazol Join Date: 2002-11-12 Member: 8323Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Cyanide+Dec 18 2002, 11:23 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cyanide @ Dec 18 2002, 11:23 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin--ShuflY+Dec 18 2002, 05:25 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ShuflY @ Dec 18 2002, 05:25 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I never quit unless it is over.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    This is how it should be done, please do not hit F4 if you see that your team is even remotely losing. It is VERY frustrating for the other players on the team and it ruins the game for them. I know of servers who will kick people who do this, so please do not do it, for the benefit of everyone. If you really can't wait, please don't play, your only making it unfun for everyone else.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    So what do you do when your team is determined to kill those camping HMG/HA marines? Sit there and just respawn.. die.. respawn.. die..? I'd rather just yell at people to F4, and if they don't, then I'd just leave the server..

    But in some cases, it's impossible to win even when they're not at your hive. Trying to take back Auxillary Command(near Port Engine on ns_nancy) when it has a lot of turrets, a few sieges.. and there's THREE turret factories, two of which are upgraded.. along with a phase gate. Then there was a similiar set-up at the "Mother" aka noname hive. So what do you do then? Be "good sports" and just sit and wait for the marines to make the final push? No thanks.. I'd rather just F4 and restart and get a new game, where both sides have a chance at winning.
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