Performance help?
SloppyKisses
omgawd a furreh!Virginia Join Date: 2003-07-05 Member: 17942Members, Constellation
omgawd a furreh!Virginia Join Date: 2003-07-05 Member: 17942Members, Constellation
Core I7 3GHZ
4GB Ram
Geforce GTS 250 1024 GDDR3
Windows 7 64bit
low - med - high graphics levels
all give me the same results. Horrible frame rates and lag. When i switch between the different modes of graphics settings the frame rates dont even go up, low, and high result in the same frame rates. Yes, Physx is also installed. Between the 3 different graphics settings the framerates do not change between 24-33FPS
The lag seems to occur when I encounter other aliens as soon as a battle engages. The framerates drop a little, but it causes a lot of stutter, so much so, it makes it impossible for ANY smooth gameplay.
Any thoughts or suggestions to try to smooth it out would be greatly appreciated! :3
4GB Ram
Geforce GTS 250 1024 GDDR3
Windows 7 64bit
low - med - high graphics levels
all give me the same results. Horrible frame rates and lag. When i switch between the different modes of graphics settings the frame rates dont even go up, low, and high result in the same frame rates. Yes, Physx is also installed. Between the 3 different graphics settings the framerates do not change between 24-33FPS
The lag seems to occur when I encounter other aliens as soon as a battle engages. The framerates drop a little, but it causes a lot of stutter, so much so, it makes it impossible for ANY smooth gameplay.
Any thoughts or suggestions to try to smooth it out would be greatly appreciated! :3
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But the question remains, why do i still see the same fps rate from low-med-high? No matter which I select the fps doesnt change. D: Putting it even on the lowest setting, causes the same exact problems as If I was running it on high settings. I guess I could upgrade my card, but it'll be awhile x_X
I still think though maybe there is an underlying performance issue with the game more so than with my own computer. D:
IE: Playing On high, the problems don't get worse than playing it on low settings. They both equal the same results. It doesnt get worse or get better. It simply stays the same.
DISCLAIMER: I just pulled those numbers out of my arse, but you get the idea.
DISCLAIMER: I just pulled those numbers out of my arse, but you get the idea.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
How is a Core i7 3GHZ not able to hold its own? lol. Unless I'm missing something and they have like 5ghz i7's out now.
While @ 3ghz, my fps was in the 10-30 range @ 3.5ghz 35-65.
If all else fails --- try running the game at a lower resolution.
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Those are my current specs. I could try boosting my i7 abit more but its already 10% OC'd. Although since its watercooled I may be able to OC it to 15%
"Optimization remains our key focus, but we can't let it stop us from continuing work on the rest of the game as well. There is not one magic fix that will double the framerate in one patch, it's an accumulative process that improves it little by little. If you compare the state of the performance in the game to a year ago, there have been huge improvements on the server and client side, and has taken a lot of dedicated programming time and effort to get there.
Many of the odd framerate drops that you experience, such as looking at a wall, or in random spots in a map are due to the current occlusion system, which can cause a lot of random drawing of map geometry that is not visible. Max is working on the new occlusion system now, which will hopefully make the overall framerate a little more consistent, without as many drops.
The game is going to get where it needs to, on the performance side, but it will still take some time, and meanwhile we are going to continue to release patches that have new gameplay features, and bug fixes, along with the sometimes small and sometimes large, optimizations.
--Cory"
Shadows and bloom effects don't consume much CPU or GPU time. Atmospheric lighting is turned off by default, so that shouldn't be a problem.
Almost everyone is experiencing client rate drop during combat. The dev team is constantly working on improving game performance.
My system specs are similar to yours (duo core CPU @ 3.1GHz, 4GB DDR2 RAM, 1GB Radeon HD5750 @ 1280x960), and I'm getting 20 (in combat) to 50 FPS on average during game.
Shadows and bloom effects don't consume much CPU or GPU time. Atmospheric lighting is turned off by default, so that shouldn't be a problem.
Almost everyone is experiencing client rate drop during combat. The dev team is constantly working on improving game performance.
My system specs are similar to yours (duo core CPU @ 3.1GHz, 4GB DDR2 RAM, 1GB Radeon HD5750 @ 1280x960), and I'm getting 20 (in combat) to 50 FPS on average during game.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Thanks much, just happy to hear it's not just me thats affected by the issues. ^_^
edit: Just OC'd to 3.4ghz - Not sure if it's stable enough to play for long periods of time but when I can get into a US server thats full I'll test it out and see if theres any increase in performance.
They do, its called the 2600K OCd
A gen1 i7 OCd to only 3 / 3.4 GHz is basically a pathetic OC, considering (regardless of which i7 you have) they will all go to 4GHz on air (stock cooler). Why don't you just OC to 4.0/4.2/4.4 and see a large gain in FPS? This game sees more benefit from a faster CPU than it deos GPUs
If you are unsure about how you OC that CPU to that level, post your MB/Chip and HSF in here and I will give you the OC settings to achieve it.
The new occlusion system that Max is working on now, and which will be in the next patch, will hopefully improve framerate some, especially regarding random drops in FPS when a large area of the map is suddenly drawing when it shouldn't. It should also smooth out when you spin around quickly, as the framerate, whether its low or high for you, should at least remain more consistent, since it won't have that issue of looking in one direction suddenly drawing the entire map.
As mentioned here already, the particle FX are another very large performance issue, and something that is most likely more of an issue for you in large battles. They are very unoptimized and expensive, currently, and they are next on the list for Max to rework, so there should be some good improvements from that. Beyond that there are still other things contributing to poor performance, such as physics, server tick rate, the list goes on. Improving one of this areas is most likely not going to magically fix the performance issues, but over the next few months you will see some steady improvements being made to the game. We also have a new engine programmer starting on Monday, and he will be tackling the performance issues along side Max, as well.
So, unfortunately it won't be overnight, but we'll get the game to a point that you should be able to play NS2 fine with your system.
--Cory
I'm just happy to hear it's really not my system and that in the future things will get better. Luckily I'm very patient, though I can't say that for a lot of others. xD
edit: As a side note. I overclocked my CPU to 3.4ghz - Seen a very slight performance increase, but still large fps drops during encounters with aliens. So it did help some. :3
<!--quoteo(post=1881008:date=Oct 21 2011, 07:36 AM:name=Cygone)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Cygone @ Oct 21 2011, 07:36 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1881008"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->They do, its called the 2600K OCd
A gen1 i7 OCd to only 3 / 3.4 GHz is basically a pathetic OC, considering (regardless of which i7 you have) they will all go to 4GHz on air (stock cooler). Why don't you just OC to 4.0/4.2/4.4 and see a large gain in FPS? This game sees more benefit from a faster CPU than it deos GPUs
If you are unsure about how you OC that CPU to that level, post your MB/Chip and HSF in here and I will give you the OC settings to achieve it.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
You'll get a message from me soon with the infos. I tried going higher than 3.4ghz but bluescreened, possibly because of voltage, but you'll hear from me in a day or so with chipset info
Intel Core2Duo 2.33ghz
4GB DDR2-800
8800 GTS 512mb
told you it was bad. Hardly meets minimum requirements of new games coming out lol.
Intel Core2Duo 2.33ghz
4GB DDR2-800
8800 GTS 512mb
told you it was bad. Hardly meets minimum requirements of new games coming out lol.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Overclock, and grab yourself a new graphics card. I still have a C2D 1.8ghz system OC'd to 2.6ghz and it still performs amazingly well with a mid grade video card :>
Intel Core2Duo 2.33ghz
4GB DDR2-800
8800 GTS 512mb
told you it was bad. Hardly meets minimum requirements of new games coming out lol.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
A year ago I upgraded my 1.86GHz Core2 to a 2.9GHz Pentium E6500 for 70 bux, and the performance shot up 20-40%. Then as if on que, my video card burnt out, so I bought a new one (HD 5750). :3
I've bought the game for my buddy to beta test. As he tried it yesterday and today he has some performance issues.
His specs:
Core 2 Duo E5200
Nvidia 9600 GSO 384
4 Gig RAM
Win XP 32
He says that he has a constant 20-30 fps in all detail settings. The problem is, that back a few months ago I gave him my steam account to try the game, and that time it was much better, around 50 fps. Resoulution is 1366x768.
So he tried lots of things, he checked out the game with Win 7 64 bit too, but it doesn't get better.
The hardware itself for this type of game should not be too light, because he can play games like Arma 2, MW2 etc. in medium detail settings very well.
My specs are:
Phenom X3 720 with unlocked 4th core.
ATI 5770
4 Gig ram
Win XP 64bit
For me the graphical engine runs very well, at stable 60 fps in every situation (high setting). Most of the slowdowns comes from the still unoptimized netcode, server lags etc.
My thought is that some kind of graphical bug was introduced back a few month ago after my pal tried it out which affects his performance.