RTS POV Ideas

OhnojojoOhnojojo Join Date: 2011-08-01 Member: 113400Members
in Ideas and Suggestions
<div class="IPBDescription">Commander's field of vision ideas.</div>I wonder if NS2 would benefit from fog of war. Keep it simple and have marine's cone of vision eliminate the fog for the commander.
Buildings reveal a radius of vision.
Power nodes also have a very small radius of vision, letting the commander know, through the fog when it's under attack, but not reveal by what.
I'm not sure how this will affect game play. It might be a bad idea.
Share some ideas.
There's probably already a thread about this. =/
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  • IeptBarakatIeptBarakat The most difficult name to speak ingame. Join Date: 2009-07-10 Member: 68107Members, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Diamond, Reinforced - Shadow
    I would like a fogofwar system, so the commander knows when things should be detectable or not. But he should still be able to drop things into the darkness.

    It would add some priority to the commander's map so it's easier to read the field. Just make sure it isn't pitch black so they can still see the field.
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  • WilsonWilson Join Date: 2010-07-26 Member: 72867Members
    Yeah, fog of war is awesome :)
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  • vsyncvsync Join Date: 2007-10-11 Member: 62602Members
    I think commander should be able to see what's coming and warn his men. This is a huge part of the game(if u r the commander) for me
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  • ScardyBobScardyBob ScardyBob Join Date: 2009-11-25 Member: 69528Forum Admins, Forum Moderators, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow
    Technically, NS2 has an invisible FOW at the moment.
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  • OhnojojoOhnojojo Join Date: 2011-08-01 Member: 113400Members
    edited October 2011
    <!--quoteo(post=1880905:date=Oct 20 2011, 05:08 PM:name=IeptBarakat)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (IeptBarakat @ Oct 20 2011, 05:08 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1880905"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I would like a fogofwar system, so the commander knows when things should be detectable or not. But he should still be able to drop things into the darkness.

    It would add some priority to the commander's map so it's easier to read the field. Just make sure it isn't pitch black so they can still see the field.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I agree on dropping buildings into the darkness. Not pitch black but maybe more dimly light from the commander's pov.
    What do you think?

    <img src="http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/7040/unled1gj.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />

    How much fog of war a unit clears up.

    Marine = blue
    Structures = red
    Green = Macs
    Colors are for illustrating purposes only

    something like this but more tasteful.
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  • IeptBarakatIeptBarakat The most difficult name to speak ingame. Join Date: 2009-07-10 Member: 68107Members, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Diamond, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--quoteo(post=1880922:date=Oct 20 2011, 07:12 PM:name=Ohnojojo)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ohnojojo @ Oct 20 2011, 07:12 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1880922"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->What do you think?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Pretty awesome.

    Only change I'd have would be making the macs have half the vision of a marine. So they aren't spammed for a tactical overview of the map.
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  • aeroripperaeroripper Join Date: 2005-02-25 Member: 42471NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation
    Moving this to I&S
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  • l3lessedl3lessed Join Date: 2010-06-07 Member: 71977Members
    This should be tied to the powergrid. If an area has power it should be completely revealed at all times. If it has no power the commander should have to rely on his soldiers or scans for vision.
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  • zexzex Join Date: 2009-10-07 Member: 68978Members
    I think fog of war would make the commander view less visually noisy and better looking. Not strictly realtime "only what your FPS units see" but more like classic Starcraft fog of war, where the whole map is black until you explore it, after which you can still see terrain but not enemy units, unless they are engaged with yours.
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  • thefonzthefonz Join Date: 2011-06-22 Member: 105847Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1880919:date=Oct 20 2011, 04:58 PM:name=ScardyBob)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ScardyBob @ Oct 20 2011, 04:58 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1880919"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Technically, NS2 has an invisible FOW at the moment.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Nailed it.

    Fog of war doesn't have to be foggy. Also, one of the big functions of the observatory is to provide warning to marine teams. The best placement for this is not the center of a room, rather near the entrances. Unfortunately I think this makes beacon buggy, not enough open space to teleport the marines into.
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  • TechercizerTechercizer 7th Player Join Date: 2011-06-11 Member: 103832Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1881063:date=Oct 21 2011, 04:11 PM:name=thefonz)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (thefonz @ Oct 21 2011, 04:11 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1881063"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Nailed it.

    Fog of war doesn't have to be foggy. Also, one of the big functions of the observatory is to provide warning to marine teams. The best placement for this is not the center of a room, rather near the entrances. Unfortunately I think this makes beacon buggy, not enough open space to teleport the marines into.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I think a slight dullness or pallor to the map would go a long way to making the FOW more intuitive to coms. Also, I support coms not being able to build in areas that are fogged.

    As for how power effects fog, that could be tricky... Maybe we could have multiple levels of fog?
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