Machine Pistols?

MkilbrideMkilbride Join Date: 2010-01-07 Member: 69952Members
in Ideas and Suggestions
Well I was thinking, maybe a Machine Pistol? I mean heck, it'd make taking care of OP Skulks alot easier. You run out of clip in the Assault Rifle, switch to MP, unload the entire clip in like a second, and destroyed.

Maybe even dual wield them in the exo-suit.
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  • twilitebluetwiliteblue bug stalker Join Date: 2003-02-04 Member: 13116Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    edited October 2011
    It only takes a one line server variable modification to make the pistol fire full-auto. The pistols in TF2 are all "fully automatic", as they fire as long as the fire button is pressed down.

    Given the current damage output of the NS2 Pistol, most of the NS2 players would tell you that a full-auto pistol is overpowered.

    Although I think a "full auto" mode for the pistol, for those that prefer it, could be made. The damage in full auto mode could be reduced, and tweaked for balance.
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  • subshadowsubshadow Join Date: 2003-04-21 Member: 15710Members
    TF2's pistols used to be semi-automatic. Then everyone started using scripts to make it fire full-automatic, wich was overpowered compared to the players without the script. Then they gave everyone full-automatic and slightly nerfed the damage (if I recall correctly).
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  • twilitebluetwiliteblue bug stalker Join Date: 2003-02-04 Member: 13116Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    edited October 2011
    Here's a quick server mod I whipped up. <a href="http://www.mediafire.com/?nkq83v8o46p4s7v" target="_blank">http://www.mediafire.com/?nkq83v8o46p4s7v</a>

    Primary fires the Pistol in full auto mode, dealing 20 damage every 0.15 second.
    Secondary mode fires the pistol in semi auto (require clicking to fire each bullet), and deals 40 damage per bullet, same as in B187.

    I think a machine pistol with extended clip isn't really necessary. If you run out of primary ammo, and the 10 bullets in the pistol, then I'm sorry, you're out of ammo. Ammos clips are limited in size for a reason ya know? ;)
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  • AlignAlign Remain Calm Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5216Forum Moderators, Constellation
    I thought he meant a new weapon entirely, something you'd buy at the armoury.
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  • thefonzthefonz Join Date: 2011-06-22 Member: 105847Members
    I would prefer the current pistol to do equal damage in either fire mode. Hitting a switch on a gun and increasing how effective the rounds are is just plain stupid. Its like taking a 9mm and saying you can hit a switch to start shooting 45cal.

    For the fire modes, make one full auto. quick to dump the whole magazine, wildly inaccurate. good for desperate close quarters combat. let the other be semi auto. accurate at long ranges, good for precision shooting.
    (how a short barreled pistol is more accurate than a long barreled rifle is a flame war that is not suited to this thread and will be ignored.)

    I don't care which is the primary mode.

    the main draw back I see is that auto mode may be unfair to skulks.
    besides, if you have a quick finger you can very quickly unload the pistol in the current design.
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  • inFamous DesigninFamous Design Join Date: 2011-10-16 Member: 127667Members
    edited October 2011
    It kind of makes sense. It is, in fact, the future so they have technologies that "make sense" to us but don't have a full explanation for. In the primary fire mode of the pistol, it shoots rounds fast but in due price, causes the shots to be shot out with less power in order to keep up with speed. And when you select secondary fire mode, it shoots slower which gives the gun more time to load up potential energy (powder or whatever it uses) and give it a more powerful shot.

    The guns in the future won't work the exact same way they do now. Maybe in the future you'll just shoot a sharpened metal shrapnel shot by some powder/spring because humans found a new way to put more power into this than the normal powder already in the bullet. :))

    Now onto the real topic, if it caused the same power the gun is OP. If you know how to aim really well in this game, then the current pistol is better than the current LMG in my opinion. The only way I could see this work is if you made it do way less damage. Also 3 separate firing modes on a pistol? Dayumm
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  • RubilacRubilac Join Date: 2011-09-18 Member: 121881Members
    I don't particularly agree with the Machine Pistol, but I really like the idea of have a replacable/upgradable slot 2 weapon for marine.
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  • FroztyFrozty SWEDEN Join Date: 2012-01-22 Member: 141596Members
    I would rather see a burst button with right click.
    The ns2 pistol reminds me of Judge Dredd haha
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  • yehawmcgrawyehawmcgraw Join Date: 2012-09-16 Member: 159694Members
    Honestly, I don't think this would be of good style (seems silly) and probably wouldn't fit into the game well. What's next? Giving marines katanas and throwing stars in thier 4th and 5th slots?
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  • KopikatKopikat Join Date: 2012-09-06 Member: 158170Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1980719:date=Sep 20 2012, 05:43 AM:name=yehawmcgraw)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (yehawmcgraw @ Sep 20 2012, 05:43 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1980719"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Honestly, I don't think this would be of good style (seems silly) and probably wouldn't fit into the game well. What's next? Giving marines katanas and throwing stars in thier 4th and 5th slots?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I want to dual wield the Switch-Axe and a Katana now.
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  • EgoGamerEgoGamer Join Date: 2012-06-21 Member: 153536Members, Reinforced - Onos, WC 2013 - Supporter
    Does it need to be a setting on the gun? Right-click could simply reflect what you're doing: Panicking and firing wildly at a close target. Primary fire is simply a more controlled shot.

    <!--quoteo(post=1980719:date=Sep 20 2012, 01:43 PM:name=yehawmcgraw)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (yehawmcgraw @ Sep 20 2012, 01:43 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1980719"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Honestly, I don't think this would be of good style (seems silly) and probably wouldn't fit into the game well. What's next? Giving marines katanas and throwing stars in thier 4th and 5th slots?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Make the katana a vibrosword and throw in a bolt gun and I'm sold ;)
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  • RobustPenguinRobustPenguin Join Date: 2012-08-17 Member: 155719Members
    You're kidding about OP skulks right?

    Honestly, the current pistol is absolutely fantastic
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  • Kouji_SanKouji_San Sr. Hινε Uρкεερεг - EUPT Deputy The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    edited September 2012
    Not entirely sure about this (can't be arsed to test or check balance values), but from memory pistol 8 shots, rifle 10 shots (lvl0 vs lvl0 Skulk)
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  • Laosh'RaLaosh'Ra Join Date: 2011-12-09 Member: 137232Members
    *can be arsed*: 9 rifle bullets or 5 pistol bullets. imo the pistol is viable enough as it is.
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  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1981446:date=Sep 21 2012, 12:17 PM:name=RobustPenguin)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (RobustPenguin @ Sep 21 2012, 12:17 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1981446"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->You're kidding about OP skulks right?

    Honestly, the current pistol is absolutely fantastic<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Back in 2011 when this was posted, skulks were maybe OP. I can't remember.
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  • RobustPenguinRobustPenguin Join Date: 2012-08-17 Member: 155719Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1981634:date=Sep 22 2012, 02:44 AM:name=TychoCelchuuu)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TychoCelchuuu @ Sep 22 2012, 02:44 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1981634"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Back in 2011 when this was posted, skulks were maybe OP. I can't remember.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Ah, this was necro'd then
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  • ScardyBobScardyBob ScardyBob Join Date: 2009-11-25 Member: 69528Forum Admins, Forum Moderators, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow
    Some mod in <a href="http://youtu.be/aeQq0GsVMS0" target="_blank">this pistol</a> into the game and then I'll be happy :)
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