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<!--quoteo(post=1878813:date=Oct 9 2011, 02:23 AM:name=konata)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (konata @ Oct 9 2011, 02:23 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1878813"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->If there is, expect it in 2020. The PC Version has taken almost as long as DNF.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
This would presumably be in the context of facts being completely optional.
An Xbox version is being considered but we want to get the PC version as good as possible before working on anything else.
<!--quoteo(post=1878813:date=Oct 9 2011, 04:23 AM:name=konata)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (konata @ Oct 9 2011, 04:23 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1878813"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->If there is, expect it in 2020. The PC Version has taken almost as long as DNF.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> Oh come on, I like to troll as much as the next guy, but you could at least remain _somewhat_ factually correct. DNF has had a good 13 years of development under it's belt, along with a ton of money. NS2 has had neither, unless you were going for the good ol' hyperbole to make an attempt at humour, in which case, try again.
<!--quoteo(post=1878924:date=Oct 9 2011, 12:33 PM:name=Dusteh)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dusteh @ Oct 9 2011, 12:33 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1878924"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Ugh, FPS/RTS on a console... PC is the only way it should be played.
Suppose it's alright for the people that cant afford a good PC setup.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
This. Both FPS and RTS suck on console, to me this is a disaster. Halo Wars only worked because it was really simplistic.
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edited October 2011
<!--quoteo(post=1878809:date=Oct 9 2011, 11:42 AM:name=Cyberwarrior00785)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Cyberwarrior00785 @ Oct 9 2011, 11:42 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1878809"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->is there eventually going to be a NS2 port over to the xbox 360? No flame wars please<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> why would you punish yourself like that?
Unless of course they implement usb mouse controls somehow
<!--quoteo(post=1878944:date=Oct 9 2011, 02:56 PM:name=ScardyBob)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ScardyBob @ Oct 9 2011, 02:56 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1878944"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Screw xbox 360. We need a NS2 IPhone/Droid app!<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
There is no way they could make a good first person shooter version for phones but a purely RTS version of NS2 could work out well.
<!--quoteo(post=1879013:date=Oct 9 2011, 06:08 PM:name=schkorpio)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (schkorpio @ Oct 9 2011, 06:08 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1879013"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->why would you punish yourself like that?
Unless of course they implement usb mouse controls somehow<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> lol.... maybe i am oh well... one thing i've noticed is that pc players tend to look down on console players, not cool guys please be mature about it
COnsoles are considered the cancer of the gaming world by the majority of PC players, that's why. Not every PC player thinks this way, but alot do. Just look at the latest RAGE debacle.
HEY, I hate consoles as much as the next guy, theyre holding back pc gaming, graphics, level sizes... etc... grumble.
But I still fully agree with a console version of the game, it would be good for publicity, good financially...
Oh wait, I forgot, if UWE wanted to release this game, they would need to buy a $1 million license or something...
Because theyre not using XNA C#.
That's going to be a problem.
Unless the consoles fix their licensing setups, I doubt we would see an xbox version, and since UWE decided to use DirectX as their current Graphics API, theres no chance of a ps3 or mac version of the game any time soon.
Damn consoles, and their damn licensing, and damn microsoft, and their damn direct x... DAMN IT!
I still would like to see UWE put out a console game in the future, even if it isn't natural selection 2.
<!--quoteo(post=1879029:date=Oct 9 2011, 08:52 PM:name=Mkilbride)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mkilbride @ Oct 9 2011, 08:52 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1879029"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->COnsoles are considered the cancer of the gaming world by the majority of PC players, that's why. Not every PC player thinks this way, but alot do. Just look at the latest RAGE debacle.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--quoteo(post=1879035:date=Oct 9 2011, 10:33 PM:name=Ironsoul)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ironsoul @ Oct 9 2011, 10:33 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1879035"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->HEY, I hate consoles as much as the next guy, theyre holding back pc gaming, graphics, level sizes... etc... grumble.
But I still fully agree with a console version of the game, it would be good for publicity, good financially...
Oh wait, I forgot, if UWE wanted to release this game, they would need to buy a $1 million license or something...
Because theyre not using XNA C#.
That's going to be a problem.
Unless the consoles fix their licensing setups, I doubt we would see an xbox version, and since UWE decided to use DirectX as their current Graphics API, theres no chance of a ps3 or mac version of the game any time soon.
Damn consoles, and their damn licensing, and damn microsoft, and their damn direct x... DAMN IT!
I still would like to see UWE put out a console game in the future, even if it isn't natural selection 2.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> it makes me sad I mean I have come to love console gaming over the pc it IS NOT A CANCER NOR A BURDAN it is just another form of gaming that deserves respect; we need to respect all forms of gaming
<!--quoteo(post=1878829:date=Oct 9 2011, 05:32 AM:name=Cyberwarrior00785)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Cyberwarrior00785 @ Oct 9 2011, 05:32 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1878829"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->im willing to bet that NS2 will be ready for release on pc and mac some time next year; so who knows 2013 xbox version?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> Nope i bet 2013 is the year of next-console gen...except for nintendo, because wii u comes 2012. And E3 Microsoft will announce <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaLPWc-Myr0&feature=player_detailpage#t=46s" target="_blank">Xbox 720</a> ^^
<!--quoteo(post=1879048:date=Oct 10 2011, 12:59 AM:name=Price)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Price @ Oct 10 2011, 12:59 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1879048"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Nope i bet 2013 is the year of next-console gen...except for nintendo, because wii u comes 2012. And E3 Microsoft will announce <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaLPWc-Myr0&feature=player_detailpage#t=46s" target="_blank">Xbox 720</a> ^^<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> you sure that wasn't just put in there to ad to the futuristic feel?
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<!--quoteo(post=1879036:date=Oct 10 2011, 04:51 PM:name=Cyberwarrior00785)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Cyberwarrior00785 @ Oct 10 2011, 04:51 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1879036"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->we need to respect all forms of gaming<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
um no we don't, we're talking about a product or past time, not people...
<!--quoteo(post=1879269:date=Oct 10 2011, 11:30 PM:name=schkorpio)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (schkorpio @ Oct 10 2011, 11:30 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1879269"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->um no we don't, we're talking about a product or past time, not people...<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> i grow tired of you people
I've grown to like console gaming, but a large problem is that everything is made for every console now when it absolutely shouldn't be. FPS and RTS games shouldn't be made for consoles because they have to be terribly dumbed down for them. Then the devs start developing primarily for console and porting to PC, and the PC version ends up sucking even more when it should be better (like RAGE, the newer COD games, etc.). Since these games play on all consoles, the games are generally developed for the lowest common denominator, in most cases the 360. Because the 360 has weaker hardware than both PS3 and PC, PS3 and PC games are essentially dumbed down to 360 capacity.
There are plenty of games on console I love and would not want to play on PC, such as Demon's Souls/Dark Souls, the Armored Core series, Twisted Metal and others. There are also plenty of games that do fine on both console and PC, such as Splinter Cell, but games in that category should be developed for PC first, or be completely readjusted for each console rather than just ported from the crappiest of them.
Another side effect of this is you lose some of the great features that console games CAN'T have, such as community modding/mapmaking, in many cases even dedicated servers, higher player counts, etc. So much of what I love about PC gaming has to do with community-generated content, it's ridiculous.
TL;DR: Certain games have their place on PC, and certain games have their place on console. A few have places on both, but this isn't one of them.
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This would presumably be in the context of facts being completely optional.
An Xbox version is being considered but we want to get the PC version as good as possible before working on anything else.
Oh come on, I like to troll as much as the next guy, but you could at least remain _somewhat_ factually correct. DNF has had a good 13 years of development under it's belt, along with a ton of money. NS2 has had neither, unless you were going for the good ol' hyperbole to make an attempt at humour, in which case, try again.
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Suppose it's alright for the people that cant afford a good PC setup.
Suppose it's alright for the people that cant afford a good PC setup.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
This. Both FPS and RTS suck on console, to me this is a disaster. Halo Wars only worked because it was really simplistic.
why would you punish yourself like that?
Unless of course they implement usb mouse controls somehow
There is no way they could make a good first person shooter version for phones but a purely RTS version of NS2 could work out well.
Unless of course they implement usb mouse controls somehow<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
lol.... maybe i am oh well... one thing i've noticed is that pc players tend to look down on console players, not cool guys please be mature about it
But I still fully agree with a console version of the game, it would be good for publicity, good financially...
Oh wait, I forgot, if UWE wanted to release this game, they would need to buy a $1 million license or something...
Because theyre not using XNA C#.
That's going to be a problem.
Unless the consoles fix their licensing setups, I doubt we would see an xbox version, and since UWE decided to use DirectX as their current Graphics API, theres no chance of a ps3 or mac version of the game any time soon.
Damn consoles, and their damn licensing, and damn microsoft, and their damn direct x... DAMN IT!
I still would like to see UWE put out a console game in the future, even if it isn't natural selection 2.
<!--quoteo(post=1879035:date=Oct 9 2011, 10:33 PM:name=Ironsoul)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ironsoul @ Oct 9 2011, 10:33 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1879035"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->HEY, I hate consoles as much as the next guy, theyre holding back pc gaming, graphics, level sizes... etc... grumble.
But I still fully agree with a console version of the game, it would be good for publicity, good financially...
Oh wait, I forgot, if UWE wanted to release this game, they would need to buy a $1 million license or something...
Because theyre not using XNA C#.
That's going to be a problem.
Unless the consoles fix their licensing setups, I doubt we would see an xbox version, and since UWE decided to use DirectX as their current Graphics API, theres no chance of a ps3 or mac version of the game any time soon.
Damn consoles, and their damn licensing, and damn microsoft, and their damn direct x... DAMN IT!
I still would like to see UWE put out a console game in the future, even if it isn't natural selection 2.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
it makes me sad I mean I have come to love console gaming over the pc it IS NOT A CANCER NOR A BURDAN it is just another form of gaming that deserves respect; we need to respect all forms of gaming
Nope i bet 2013 is the year of next-console gen...except for nintendo, because wii u comes 2012.
And E3 Microsoft will announce <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaLPWc-Myr0&feature=player_detailpage#t=46s" target="_blank">Xbox 720</a> ^^
And E3 Microsoft will announce <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaLPWc-Myr0&feature=player_detailpage#t=46s" target="_blank">Xbox 720</a> ^^<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
you sure that wasn't just put in there to ad to the futuristic feel?
um no we don't, we're talking about a product or past time, not people...
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i grow tired of you people
There are plenty of games on console I love and would not want to play on PC, such as Demon's Souls/Dark Souls, the Armored Core series, Twisted Metal and others. There are also plenty of games that do fine on both console and PC, such as Splinter Cell, but games in that category should be developed for PC first, or be completely readjusted for each console rather than just ported from the crappiest of them.
Another side effect of this is you lose some of the great features that console games CAN'T have, such as community modding/mapmaking, in many cases even dedicated servers, higher player counts, etc. So much of what I love about PC gaming has to do with community-generated content, it's ridiculous.
TL;DR:
Certain games have their place on PC, and certain games have their place on console. A few have places on both, but this isn't one of them.